Topic: Newbies are free to choose the journey they will go (Read 1008 times)

It's not easy. it takes patience to be a good member. Provide posts that are useful and do not violate forum rules and continue to be active in this forum. I think the final journey can be achieved by anyone without being overwhelmed. Being a beginner is not easy, I used to go as a beginner who didn't understand anything, but my determination to become an active user and make money from the many bounty and airdrop campaigns that I have worked on. After moving up in the rankings and knowing how this forum works, I came to understand what I had to do to be useful.

It is how they waste their time. Learning about crypto currency, bitcoin, blockchain or read forum rules are better than hunting bounties. They waste lots of their time while they think they don't.

Not all. Scammers want to scam people and they don't want to learn or want to be good members.

Good member, yes you can by:
- Reporting spammers (their spam posts will be deleted or their accounts can be banned or nuked)
- Hunting scammers, scam projects and make reports in Scam accusations child board.
- Contribute what you can from your knowledge and experience.

If you do one of three aforementioned, you won't have enough free time to look for bounties or join them.

I'm a newbie but I'm here since January. I don't do replies nor topics since I'm still lacking of knowledge about bitcoin and crypto currencies. When I read this topic I asked my self for what will I become? A scammer? A bounty hunter and a spammer? Maybe? Or a Good member? I don't know yet the correct answer for my question but I'm hoping to become a good member to lessened those spammers or scammers. Thanks for this topic it really help my vision here on this forum.

Yes, exactly. Everyone has every right to choose where he is leading to, especially newbies like us. Maybe the idea of earning here is the first thing in mind upon joining in this forum. However, it should always be wise to learn everything first before engaging into tasks that will give you a rewards token if you are lucky enough to find a good and legit bounties. Gaining more knowledge will better build our capability in exploring crypto currency world as well as earning good profits at the same time.

Bounty hunting is very common. They do not want to waste their time learning about cryptocurrency and directly jumps into bounty hunting. This is what I have been experience when I was new in the forum.

Mostly because aspiring newbie bounty hunters are usually being told that earning tokens can get you lots of money and that could even buy you things you wantdd jn your life like cellphones,  laptop, computer, or even motorcycle and a car could be possibly reach. However, there are many scams in here and that luck will only let it happen.

Bount hunters and spammers are very common for every beginner of this forum, of course , some of the newbies may be considered this forum as one way for them to earn money and there is no wrong for that if they are thinking that way, some beginners could be spammers as well because of being lack of knowledge but there's no one who will choose to be a spammer forever, this would take time to be good and avoid being spammers, experience and good research would be the best thing to do to avoid being a spammer,

My point here is that you should not include the first two to the scammer because both are normal as a newbie while being a scammer is a real choice, if you choose to be a scammer then go, it's your own decision and you are already odl, you should know good and bad things but make sure that you should know the consequences of choosing to be a scammer.

 Actually the first and last journeys are more preferably by newbies, no newbie will want to spam or scam knowing fully that if they are caught they will be barned instantly. As for the last journey, every one wishes to be a good member, but it's not that easy.

Mostly newbie chose the path of being a bounty hunter to earn. Yes, many here wanted to earn and they see the forum as an opportunity for it. But to me, no not anymore because most of the project are scam or usally fails because of the thousands of project being created and introduced to only few investors.

LOL, I guess he need to see the thread about the bitcointalk posting etiquette. chec this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54993821 created by thrantidung. Newbie may be able to get more of posting habit here. This is one of the best posting guide I have seen in the forum and one can enjoy reading it while learning by doing. Try to follow that guide and everything else will follow and that guy could become a good guy here

fourpiece,

You post history and your merit history identify you are not a good poster. There are good posters join bounties but you are out one of them. Your posts are one or two lines and mostly not convey any good contributions.

The post above is a good example, you quote all OP that is not needed. Use snip icons or just mention @OP, I will know you want to discuss with my post, not the others in the thread.

Im a good member and bounty hunter since i joined in this forum and it wont be change as long as this forum  exist. I want to be part of this forum as one of the good members and dedicated bounty hunter.

It is impossible to find out or achieve anything in at some point we've to find out patiently over time regardless of what site we work on we've to start out from scratch. Most of the new members within the forum jump to form money without learning anything about the forum in order that they are more at a loss they're usually ignorant about the forum just in case of newcomers there are different sites or threads within the forum they ought to attempt to learn by searching.

And if their questions has been already answered many times, just provide the links to them because a lot of them doesn't know where to begin with because of the overwhelming information here in the forum. So some of them will create new thread even if it was already answered as looking for those topics sometimes is hard to find. Just be patient to them as some are really sincere and you know it if they are just only spammer or scammer.

With all the rules and the goal of the forum I don't think newbies will have a choice of their own to become a spammer he will be ban right away he needs to contribute here or he will be ship out here, this forum has no room for scammers and spammers we have old members to protect this forum these kind of posters newbies or not.

As a responsible user here in this forum, we should not let them down, judging them will not make them grow. If they are asking, a simple answer will help them to become enlightened about the things in this forum.

All of us started from being a newbie in crypto industry and in this forum.

We are all experienced that stage where we are ignorant about bitcoin and other cryptocurrency and our society.

A simple help will matter to them so much so don't hesitate to guide them on the journey or path that they will pursue here in this forum. Hopefully, they will become a responsible user too, to have a quality and informative posts and making critical discussions toward a certain issue so that there are variety learning that will occur in this forum.

Newbies are really free to choose what path they will go or do in the world of cryptocurrency. But most newbies nowadays only aims for easy and quick money, especially who are new in cryptocurrency that they always make spam and shitpost just to join bounty campaigns, and they don't have any interest to learn more in cryptocurrency. It is why they always get scam and not earning good profit from cryptocurrency.

It is very sad that we currently have very few real Newbie. Exactly those people who come to the forum as a student who has a desire to learn about Crypto. True cryptomaniacs were born here before the start of bounty companies, then the idea of ​​a forum had its real meaning.
Today, if I see a newbie account, then it either has an old registration date, which does not fit a newbie. And immediately there is a suspicion that this is someone's alternative account, and he has known the forum for a long time. Or, if the registration date is fresh, then often these are the accounts of previously banned or red-trusted members.

When I was just starting here my goal and motivation is to become bounty hunter the one that just report bounty campaign but after I realized that you can make more stakes from bounty rewards by being a signature participants I started to post good stuff instead of just reporting campaign now I'm on a better position, so just contribute here and a lot of good stuff will come.

Majority of the newcomers here, are after bounty hunter's job. Due to they were introduced by someone whom gets pays from bounties. So they have no other option than to join, to see how it works.
Only few that understand what this forum is all about will deviate from such mindset (bounty hunters job) to a better good member that will contributes to the growth of the btt forum

To make money on forum, I dont think user should contribute to forum because there are many thing they can do to earn money. Some easy way for those I can remember are airdrop, bounty campaign, game and round, gambling, trading, and so on. Those are some thing that can be done without contributing to the forum by user.

Contribution are not required for every forum user because contribution are a good choice chosen by forum member and are useful for other user. Many forum contributor will benefit from what they do, including having the opportunity to join a high paid signature campaign but vice versa for those who dont contribute. They will not be considered by the manager at all as one of the participant. If you want to be a good and useful forum member, then contribute.

With that purpose, they will never succeed in this forum.
You shouldn't do something for the sake of money, that's useless.

You should do your duty as a member and you should not make money as your goal, but the opinions, facts and informative discussion should be your tool for success. Making a lot of quality and factual posts will make you a more reliable member where other users will notice you as a good member. In order to achieve your goals and attain a higher rank in this forum, you should make your thoughts as your motive.

Hi Tim,

I remembered you applied in my thread and failed. Today you posted it but I don't see what I wrote hurts human or someone. It is truth.

Because of your post, I am curious and check you post history. I see you always quote full posts or OPs when you replied. It is not good because most of time I reply to only a small point in a long post, I guess you and others do the same.

Quote the points you want to discuss with authors, do not quote all.

I think I fall into two specifications on the list of what to choose first am a hunter and secondly I am possibly helping people to understand Crypto and other things relevant to Crypto out of Bitcointalk forum as a whole. So to say as for the rest two I believe most members on this forum has their heart at the back of their mind. Enjoying hurting other humans intentionally.

If only newbies will stop and roam around and start reading all the important threads here in this section he will not go astray and will develop into good posters but unfortunately, some of these newbies go straight into the bounty campaigns and become spammers of this forum.

I agree with you.
Many new members have already been kicked out of this forum due to spam and others have learned the rules and become valuable members of the community.
I am always for giving a second chance if a new member realizes his mistakes and has changed.
I think the big problem is that a lot of new members don’t understand enough English and don’t have experience with online forums.

It is so much better if newcomers chosen to a journey where they could learn a lot from steps that they take.

Knowledge is very important as we continue our journey.
It will help us to decide what's the best thing to do and/or what should we not do.
Also do not rush things, just take it slowly and you'll see constant progress.

Many of them started as a spammer and as bounty hunters, their motivation is to make money they just learned that they need to contribute and be good members if they want the cooperation of people here and they want to have respects coming from other posters and managers,
if Bitcointalk is your first forum you need to take your time to read a lot before making your presence felt,it's better that they felt your presence as a contributor and not as a spammer or bounty hunter only.

Almost everyone in the forum aims and hopes to profit from the forum in terms of currency either digital or it's equivalent. Hence, any newbie who discovers the bounty section of the forum is so tempted that, it takes a newbie with a concrete idea of the forum and with a purpose to escape this temptation. I was tempted once but got advised and inspired from the good people of this forum, learnt from their many available articles and personal observation of the journey to the top. Now, I'm getting enthusiastic on forging ahead and it's such a great feeling.
Choose right and devote your energy to learning first.

This is what the unofficial rules state on the matter:
There is therefore a spirit behind the bumping procedure, and the overall effect, within the above limitations, should be something bearable and seemingly justified. If someone bumps a thread on Beginners & Help it would be an atypical event, and probably uncalled for. If many people went on to doing it, it would be unbearable, and tighter rules would have to be set (or the new bumping scheme extended to other boards).

Is it alright to bump a thread? I think there are rules for this. Mostly it happens on advertising or promotional activities like in those market place or ann threads. However, I have seen few times here that there are users bumping their own threads in this section. Anyway, this thread is helpful by the way and it is also good for the newbie to see it as an awareness in this forum. They may be here for a different reason but at least they are aware of the users here. Being cautious is better than being careless.

I think all forum member will agree with you except scammers because a maximum number of Newbie and Jr member are doing spam in a regular basis.
I saw many newbies using high rank username to scam in all good Bounties and in forum.
That's why forum is getting polluted day by day.

All Bounty managers should take steps properly.Then something good can be happened.

Accepting Newbies and Jr Members in sig campaigns and bounties is a mistake from the beginning to the end. That opens up a big door for spammers or alts to be able to join in - the campaigns such as 777Coin and Bitvest have had to cope with these things for a while now, and from time to time there still are sockpuppets/alts that are found to be cheating. I can't even imagine what a bounty manager has to deal with most of the times - I'd bet +30% of the bounty participants are cheating as we speak.

Increasing the minimum entry rank leads to newer members understanding better what this forum is about. The sad thing is, most bounty participants are spammers desperately dropping replies anywhere on the forum just to fulfill as many bounty requests as possible. As you say, being a decent member and trying your best to be better opens up a lot of doors and opportunities for you. Newbies choosing the spammy/scammy way will most likely regret it at one point in the future anyway.

New members are always asking things like how to make money in this forum, how to raise rankings etc., it is a natural thing if I look at it from a beginner's perspective. We only need to provide feedback in the form of suggestions and advice to make him know what is more important and needed by this forum. Make quality posts, how to contribute well and more. The inability of beginners to rise in rank due to lack of education, lack of reading and learning the rules in this forum.

Majority that spam in this forum are mostly newbies and few of the junior members. Due to the high rate of spamming from newbies and junior members, a good number of bounty project no longer accept them to join their signature campaign. The only accept the high ranked members.
Spamming in this forum is just a waste of time and energy, hard work and patience do pay

This is not wrong but not only to be patient but patient is one of the keys to be one of the good members of the forum, you have worked hard (diligence) and also optimistic, these should be included too, these qualities are what most members should acquire.

New members like creating posts like, how to make money from the forum, how to rank up, how to earn merits, they do not care about asking how to make quality and authentic posts, that is why it is not surprising that they could not able to rank up.

Doing both things in a balanced way will be very difficult to do when their position is still a beginner and do not know what the function of this forum really is. What they know is that this forum is a place to make money by collecting bitcoin and following bounty and airdrop campaigns. Signature spammers are not beginners. They have many accounts whose purpose is indeed to get a lot of income using multiple accounts and that they have set. A beginner should know what they want to do in this forum. As members who have been around for a long time in this forum, we must tell them that being a good member is more profitable, but it requires patience to build an account from the beginning.

Some of the newbies right now are having a struggle which field they want to make more exist because not all the time we are gifted once that has all the talent and have good and great skills in the particular field

For example a gambler and want to share their knowledge of gambling and want to learn more but they see some merit came from the other member which is mostly getting to the trading discussion some of them want to push their selves just to learn to trade and want to earn merits for example. It is better to focus on the thing you are good with because soon the time wi shine to you not right now but soon.

Of course, I am sure everything will be fine when we want to focus on studying it seriously. We all have to learn something gradually and this is the beginner to grow into a good user in the forum. Strongly agree with your statement, when we want to try to spend a little time here then there will be a different feeling.

Being a beginner today may be very different from the beginner of your day. The merit system currently in place in the forum has forced them to do their best to post quality thing. Without quality posts they will never be able to move up the rankings and they will get many restrictions as a consequence.

Fortunately at this time beginner will never find it difficult to get merit if they want to because the forum never lack knowledge and direction from contributors that will help them grow. Its just that everything depends on themselves. I want to grow because I want to do it, and so do they. If they want then everything might come true.

If you asked me what the rules are I'm pretty sure I couldn't quote you a single one. Over time enough etiquette has sunk in and the others I've seen mentioned seem like common sense more than anything.

When I first arrived here this forum had newbie jail which meant you were restricted to post only in one section for newbies only. You had to do a certain numbers of posts over a certain period of time to get out of it.

The management seems verry resistent to reinstating that but it might be helpful to the state of the forum and those who can bothered to stick around long enough to get out of it.

Of course there is nothing wrong with wanting to earn some bitcoin.
The most important thing is actually the approach and attitude.
I will always be happy to help new members when I see that they have a sincere desire to learn something and if they don't spam the forum, even if their main motivation for registering on this forum is actually earning bitcoin.
But if new members don’t read the rules and spam other members, for personal gain, then that’s not acceptable and I won’t support that.

That's true, we are only responsible for ourselves, whatever we want to be, we will be as long as we really want it or we put effort to achieve it. If you want to be scammers, which is a bad thing for you, then you can be, you are only showing that you cannot do something to earn money, you are only relying on other people, you are doing bad things just to make money, do you think that it is worth it? Do you make money from other people?

If you want to be a good bitcoin, you should be hardworking and always keep learning, you may do a reading which is what I always do to learn new things, just read on some legit websites, article or even in this forum, it is really helpful of gaining good knowledge.

It is very appropriate that those who are beginner are those who are very confused to start something right without making mistakes. Generally they will be very confused when they first get to know the forum and usually their first post here is a question.

When I was a beginner, I didnt even know what to do here before I got direction from other member. I began to ask them what to do. It is impossible for a beginner to be people who have a very good understanding of the rules and procedures of the forum correctly and if there are, I think they are not true beginner and they are someone alt.

Beginner should be welcomed here because they are the smallest part of the forum looking for an identity. As you said, spending a little time in the forum to learn and gain knowledge will give a different feel to anyone. I even felt that my forum trip ended when my ranking dropped to a beginner after the implementation of the merit system. But the awareness of the ability to rise has brought me here.

I can't say I blame newcomers who turn up and instantly start raping this place. It takes time to figure out that many people care about it and get proper narked at those who don't. To a new arrival it's just another stop on the internet with some potential for mad gainz, most of which are gone now, for now at least.

When you take the time to digest what's here then it becomes a tad more nuanced. There's something more honest about someone who over time went from a shitposter to a valued member than some obsequious creep who instantly courts their audience.

yes you are right, in this forum we are free to choose our own path. I also do not want to be hypocritical about the initial reason to join this forum because I want to get BTC and money from BTC sales obtained from various campaigns and airdrops. what I mean by members who deserve help is qualified beginner members and not concerned with how to get a lot of btc, but they also have a good contribution in this forum. The initial motivation of beginners who just want to get BTC is a general motivation that will occur to some or most beginners, it's still very reasonable.

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Beginners have different motivation to join this forum.
If they join this forum in order to learn more about btc,  technology etc. than I think others will be happy to support them with answers,  advices, merits...
It's obvious that many new members join this forum with only one motivation,  to earn some btc.
Of course that such new members can't expect support and help from other members.
We freely choose our way.

There are only a few beginners who strive to learn to achieve good performance in the forum. So they can survive and can be good and useful members of this forum. Not just to find something they can juice again. They use the time in this forum well and contribute.

We as members who are already far above must support beginners with such thoughts, thoughts that want to advance and continue to be useful for this forum. providing some merit for quality posts will make them more enthusiastic.

This is also what I heard in some people about Bitcointalk before.
But here is one guy who told me before when I was started to introduced in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies that I should create my account here because this forum could help me to learn more about Bitcoin. But still, since I heard about some bounty campaigns here, I also think and tried those, but still, I still learning different things here in the forum.

One of the reason why newbies do those kind of things such as spamming, bounty hunters is because those who introduce about the crypto and the forum is not about the right introduction instead they are taught about how to earn money and made them think that this forum is good place to earn money as their main source of income which is not.

I think you have it all wrong, you do not have to pick a role for your membership on this forum, just be yourself. Remember this forum was created to answer people's questions about Bitcoin and also to stimulate discussions about Bitcoin and to brainstorm ideas that would improve it.

People come to this forum for different reasons, but the main goal should be to join here to gain knowledge about Bitcoin and also to share that knowledge with other members. Forget about all the role-playing games and just contribute constructively. 

No he didn't. And I don't see any encouragement. Either way, it is still up for newbies if they'll forced themselves but I knew they would not assuming that they are the good members as mentioned  .

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Then they really are not into learning, after all. Obviously, if they cannot get or earn something worthy of their time and effort they will vanish. Probably, those people behind are roaming around the internet searching for something that they can juice out again. Such a waste, if they just instead used their effort and excessive time on a meaningful manner, they could achieve much amazing feats better than they usually do  .

In my opinion, basically the choices are only 2 options:
- Good members.
- Bad members.

You are good members if then you become good posters, help others, bring valuable things to the forum, or contribute other positive things. While you are bad members if then you become scammers, spammers, fraudsters, break forum rules, or other negative things. Regarding bounty hunters, it can be good or bad, depends on how you work on it. If you become bounty hunters and then it triggers you to spam the forum, you are classified as a bad member. But if you keep quality posts even if you are following a bounty, then you are still a good member. Well, it is also the same cases for being bounty managers, escrow providers, community managers, or other jobs in the forum. It depends on you to make it be a good one or a bad one.

2010-2015 might be the year where beginners look for knowledge about cryptocurrency in this forum and bounty campaigns are still not very popular.
But in 2016-2017 which was the year I first entered the world of cryptocurrency, I found that year was where the bounty and airdrop campaigns were very popular. Most projects in that year were successful and achieved maximum results. I also get the maximum income for the year.

But stepping again in 2018 until now, the bounty campaign seems to be no longer in demand anymore because many scammers are trying to deceive bounty hunters and members here. False ICOs and IEOs are increasingly numerous and cannot be controlled. This makes the scammers in this forum more and more beginners who end up inactive, because there is no definite source of income in this forum.
Those who are not active cannot compete and develop into members who is more productive and unable to rank.

Agree with this, they should be a reader of this topic first, not as a topic creator, cause they aren't really getting those educational post from themselves, maybe they will get it from an article, some tend to plagiarize just to create a certain post because in the first place they aren't really fully understand the topic they are creating. It may be true that they may learn from reading it but what if not. Its best to read first and acquire knowledge, when you have it then you can easily contribute to topics with quality post. And everything will follow. Forum members will see it through your post if you really know what you are talking about or you are just creating it because you are expecting something.

Intention before joining anything is important. Read rules is a next step of intention identification of one person. Without clear plan on what you are doing, you will not be able to do something good and well planned.

Rules are important and must read but it is not the first thing to do.

Not!. The first thing a newbie should do is go read the forum rules. After that if you are free to do what you want.

You don't stop being a novice, ever. you are novice because you are simply in a section of the forum that you never use, when you get to your first post in that section, e.g. each section has its internal rules.

None of those stages you mention are rigid for a novice, the expert can go through them at any stage as a forum user.

Finally, common sense and try to add value to the conversations, that process is sometimes achieved, sometimes not, opinions are sometimes not right, but it is freedom of opinion joined to forum rules.

If someone would choose being a spammer and/or a scammer, then I don't know what they're thinking aside from wasting their time. This forum aims to give us knowledge about cryptocurrency and other related things and the least we can do to give back is to become a good member.

And by good member, that means following rules and doing your best to improve as part of your contribution in this community. It's somehow mutualism. You can help in making the forum cleaner and in turn, you allow yourself to learn new things and with commitment, you'll eventually become a master of your own craft.

Of course, but sometimes the goodness is a bit vague at first because of the lack of awareness to get better. That's why I think all forum members will welcome anyone who wants to try to be better and start contributing to the community even if only by posting something constructive. A constructive and quality post is also a good effort to make the forum cleaner and it is not uncommon for such posts to be rewarded as a form of appreciation.

The percentage may still be greater than 80% and I think it is around 90% of bounty hunter are those who are less concerned with the quality of posts. This is just my prediction based on what I found.

By the way, it is very difficult to read your replies when all other user responses are answered in one post. Its like looking at a wall of text. Sorry

Such ones choose to use the forum in the shady and negative ways. Let they be what they want to be.
If they want to be good, and start their works, don't give up, they will become good members definitely. I don't see why they will become spammers.
Scammers can be experienced scammers or newbie scammers. Newbie good members, newbie scammers like so. Shitposters and scammers can change to be good members, I agree with you on this opinion. However, scammers don't change to be good members. They love the ways the live as scammers and love the way the earn money by scam the others.
There are many different reasons why members join the forum and spam. People can change from bad to good but not all of them will change like that. Indeed, very small percent of them will change positively like that.
Knowledge is what most important good members will get from their good works. What are good works? Such works can contribute good information, are helpful and users will spend decent times and efforts to build up their good works. From such journey, they learn more. After that, other members will contribute and somehow help them to learn more. More knowledge will be gotten for good members.
Likely similar as people who consider themselves as bitcoin investors but don't know any basic about bitcoin. Some consider themselves as bitcoin enthusiasts but don't know how to install and use a bitcoin wallet. What they care indeed is money.
I put them into different groups but there are some of users will do multitasks: scam, spam, bounty hunt. Your other words are true, I agree.
Totally true. Your destiny is on your hands, your mind and your decisions.
I don't know because I was not here in 2010 or 2015.
Good earnings from bounties or bad earnings, it does not matter. You can earn thousands of dollars from bounties but you won't get any far and wont' get rich with it.
It is.

Basically forum and users never prohibit anyone from earning money here because this forum is intended to discuss about bitcoin as well as a place to promote product, sites or platforms, especially with bounty program or signature campaign. Its just that many bounty participant ignore things that can make them better because they are too focused on earning income so they dont seem to care about the quality and function of the forum as a place to get knowledge.

I think if they can make these two things balanced then there wont be a problem to solve. Getting income from promoting sites on the "signature campaign" forum can also be categorized as a form of bonus for those who contribute. But in reality we can see that there are very many bounty participant who are signature spammer on various board and that is totally useless for forum and users. There is a wrong perception about them and that must be able to change and start learning to be a good user.

Many will come here to earn at first, unlike before we go here to gain knowledge about bitcoin as its community been a good place to share thoughts and ideas about new discoveries and related crypto websites or products that been known in crypto. But since many know that we were able to earn from here before many take it as an advantage to do bounty hunting thru spamming, hopefully newbies not here to scam. Those who do scam maybe are already here even before and see it as a room to do their bad intentions. Newbies and truly beginners here in forum should be more observant than ever.

I like how you separate the other 3 from good members. My favorite type of member is the Builder. Someone who creates something, the more innovative and existent on the blockchain the better.

Almost every Newbie is here to earn money through Bounties. Earning in bounties is not that good nowadays therefore they resort to spamming and when they get caught and get banned they would create a new ID to scam other members.

Eventually, they would again get banned. If a newbie is here to learn then they would never think about the bounty first. Their primary goal would be to understand the technology and learn as much as they can.

For sure this kind of decision was only common when there are a lot already using bitcointalk to some campaign of cryptocurrency projects like altcoins who starting their ICO in this forum, but for sure way back 2010 - 2015 maybe, those time is only for Bitcoin knowledge that wants a newbie need, since way back being a bounty hunter is still not so popular.

Everyone has the right to choose their own path in the forum and will never be forced. Being a good member who contributes is a choice and those are things that are highly recommended by the forum and users because that will make us individual who have benefit for the forum and users. There arent many people who want to reward spammer or users who have low quality posts with something like merit and that will prevent them from going up in rank "if their rank is still low".

I would never agree if all those bounty hunter are spammer, because I can also find them as good quality poster that also contribute. But many of the bounty hunter are spammer who in turn are those who post lots of low quality and useless thing. Theres nothing good besides contributing and obeying forum rules, and being a spammer will only make the forum full of junk.

I wouldn't put bounty hunters & spammers in the same pool with scammers. I would expect very new members to believe BitcoinTalk is a literal job and a way to get a Bitcoin in no time, just as I probably thought when I first registered on here. Even for older bounty hunters the reason why they aren't seen as normal/good members on here is still a question mark.

There are some unwritten "rules" of being accepted in this community as a good member, such as having to read at least a part of the replies before actually replying to the thread. Many members expect that. I bet a lot of the newbies don't even read OPs besides the title, let alone all the other replies to know what's been said yet and what hasn't. This is something even I had an issue with for a long time.

Guess it all goes down to the way each member spends their time on here. If one spends most of their time truly interested in replying to others and actively participating in the forum, they'll be seen as a "good member". I don't mind someone desperately looking for more and more bounties unless they literally throw their shitposts everywhere and fill up the forum with nonsense.

I rarely see someone really new on this forum, even rarer to find a new guy who acts like a normal member to learn about Bitcoin. Most of the newbie on this forum is not really new, they are newbie because they did not earn one merit, but they have been too old in this space for a long time, or with a lot of accounts.
Newbies are not really participating in the bounty campaign, instead, they will ask a few questions about how to make money, activities, ... and not posting the correct section. Also not appear in the bitcoin discussion section for spam 
I also think that bounty hunters and scammers are often the same, they go the same way, they cheat

As beginners they will choose their destination to become a bounty hunter, because what they know is that Bounty will produce more with many projects that can be followed. and some bounty hunters will become spammers who will brutally carry out all bounty tasks.

The choice is indeed in their hands. But being a good member will have a more positive impact to be able to achieve a high Rank and be able to participate in the BTC Signature Campaign which has more potential to pay consistently. At the moment I am also focused on developing my account and becoming a good and useful member of this forum.

Spam is usually a direct result of the first; bounty hunting especially when it's done with no regard for the forum; enlisting multiple accounts and posting simply to fulfil your post count can cause a serious spam problem as is seen in some boards.
The position one takes is really down to how the forum was presented to them when they learnt about it and also how much they are willing to read and gain knowledge.
• If one is sold the idea that the forum is a gold mine for easy cash, and by joining an ICO bounty campaign one can get a token that will go ×10 when listed, they will likely focus on bounties and could get lost in those sections.
• if a user who has an interest in reading and learning is sold the same idea, they could start off as a bounty spammer, but after gaining a little knowledge about the forum and Bitcoin, they'll likely want to learn more, this will expose them to more boards and they will eventually start contributing quality content.

Forum members would likely transition through various stages. Scammers however, could be bounty hunters, spammers or even high quality posters, and are usually unrepentant.

I don't think that new members explicitly choose to be spammers or bounty hunters instead of being good members, and as for scammers, those people aren't actually newbies, they probably have dozens of other accounts, some maybe even with higher ranks.

Some users who started as shitposters eventually changed their ways and became very valuable users, this is because when you posts are good, they will get merited without people going through your post history to check if you are worthy.


You shouldn't encourage newbies to earn merit via creating educational topic posts, because they are newbies, they will often fail to do so properly and will only introduce misconceptions.

 if they choose the fourth -good member- and not having the enthusiasm to spare head it, can leave them in the remaining three especially the second -spammers-
In a short summary, -newbies- work and the rest is history

Well, you are right and as I have observed recently, most newbies are spammers they are spam their referral links in the forum and using different accounts to post on the topic aside from the OP. They deserve to get a reward, all of them have been nuked.
Perhaps there are additional options aside from what you gave in the newbie's journey, --^[1] -Fraud victim asking for help and ^[2] -For business purpose establishing ANN thread. Not all newbies are here just to be a good member, there are various reasons why they are here and indeed, the most common reason was already you have stated.
Indeed, a very good post of yours!

I used to be a newbie and my age is not too old on the forum. I registered the account on April 28, 2019 and my first forum-versary is 3 months ago.

You will not read if I write something too long as tl;dr so I will write it too short for you.

As a newbies, you have to choose the journey you want to go:
- Bounty hunters
- Spammers
- Scammers
- Good members.

There is nothing needed to say if you choose the first three. If you fortunately and bravely to choose the last one, and want to go as good members the next thing you have to do is choosing the area you have interests in. It is important because you will more easily spend more time for that, and you will feel more comfortable to do so. It is your interests so your works with it will bring lots of fun back to you.

I chose to focus my time on the forum with security and privacy and wallet's features and usages. You can see it in my first thread I created to ask about Brave browser - What's wrong with Brave browser?. Unfortunately, because of privacy problems I stopped using the browser months ago.

Bitcoin Core's prune node. Please help to use it safely.
Warning when transaction fee exceeds sent amount for bitcoin wallets?
Check links with Virustotal. False positive results, how much they are?
Good topics on security and privacy
Authentication: Types, Risks/ Attacks, Advice
Visiting official websites and download official apps, not fake ones.

There are some threads not belong to my main concerns.
A new group of scammers, make topics with phishing links. Please nuke them.
Find your managers
Overview on DeFi - a new hot trend in crypto

If you are newbies, now choose your journey and your interested areas you want to go with.