Topic: Newbies are not newbies indeed... (Read 1274 times)
I do agree with your points and had a similar path in terms of getting into this forum, at a very late stage when compared to the time, I get to know BTCitcoin itself (just in general and not a pro user). I used to mine using multiple GPU's back in late 2011 and tried some faucets when I had the time (along the way), then got real busy with college and after a failure to one of my GPU's after a week of mining, I never re-invested again and sort of didn't use BTCitcoin up until I graduated. Then a year after my graduation, I red from a different website that, this website is the best site to put my Faucet rotator link and as result, I did it back in June,2015 and slowly I found out that this forum is actually more than just that
Most "newbies" are just QuickSeller.
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You'd get more money waiving a banner in the street than selling your signature space to some campaign.
You'd get more money waiving a banner in the street than selling your signature space to some campaign.
Sure. Caveat:
-Can't turn yourself into 20 people waving banners in the street. Can post from 20 accounts.
-Waving a banner in NYC might pay better, but not in Yerevan.
It's very hard to spot genuine newbies any more. Most of the people here on the forum have an army of alt accounts sucking dry the signature campaigns. Now there is a new breed of newbie gamblers with a shitload of sock puppet accounts participating in the games and predictions threads because it's easy cash for them and that's more than they could earn in 1 month's time from signatures. Sometimes the shitshow is just plain obvious lol.
It is a dead giveaway when the first post of an user is in a signature campaign thread. It is highly unlikely that a new user managed to go to the services board and find a campaign which accepts newbies.
So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
You are right but we here referring to newbies to forum not newbies to bitcoin.Even if Satoshi create an alt here and join forum,he would be newbie his expertise in bitcoin notwithstanding I guess OP is saying that every user that joins this forum at first they are ranked as newbies but not all of them are really newbies in bitcoin but they are newbies on this forum. Many of them are regular users of bitcoin from years but joined this forum now so they are marked newbies.
But now a days mostly users are newbies joining this forum just for earning bitcoins. They just hear it from somewhere about the forum and the opportunities of earning so they just open an account and start asking questions like "how to earn bitcoins fast and free" or "how to earn free bitcoins on this forum" etc.
Yeah, we used to mine our Bitcoin. Or trade fiat for it. Elwar has said many times that if people want to earn Bitcoin they should get a job.
It is still very newbish to think that Bitcoin is so unreal that you can magically earn it easier than fiat.
You'd get more money waiving a banner in the street than selling your signature space to some campaign.
So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
You are right but we here referring to newbies to forum not newbies to bitcoin.Even if Satoshi create an alt here and join forum,he would be newbie his expertise in bitcoin notwithstanding I guess OP is saying that every user that joins this forum at first they are ranked as newbies but not all of them are really newbies in bitcoin but they are newbies on this forum. Many of them are regular users of bitcoin from years but joined this forum now so they are marked newbies.
But now a days mostly users are newbies joining this forum just for earning bitcoins. They just hear it from somewhere about the forum and the opportunities of earning so they just open an account and start asking questions like "how to earn bitcoins fast and free" or "how to earn free bitcoins on this forum" etc.
So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
You are right but we here referring to newbies to forum not newbies to bitcoin.Even if Satoshi create an alt here and join forum,he would be newbie his expertise in bitcoin notwithstanding 
It's very hard to spot genuine newbies any more. Most of the people here on the forum have an army of alt accounts sucking dry the signature campaigns. Now there is a new breed of newbie gamblers with a shitload of sock puppet accounts participating in the games and predictions threads because it's easy cash for them and that's more than they could earn in 1 month's time from signatures. Sometimes the shitshow is just plain obvious lol.
you can find out if they are pure newbie or not by check their history psot, mostly newbies posted in off topic or games section only to get their activity's point,
Not all newbies are a noob or didn't know anything about Bitcoin. Some were just an alt account, some were indeed owned by a newbie that has no knowledge about Bitcoin at all, and many others type of newbies. People in this forum are being judgemental to newbies because most of them are created with the intention to scam others., but not all newbies are 'bad' IMO.anyways i remember when i was newbie, i typed faucet first and it was funny exprienced, i stoped when i realized that i will never be rich if i just stucked on that method, and it's obviously wasting my time but it's very good way to learn about bitcoin
To be honest, claiming satoshis from faucets was very profitable and can indeed make you rich back then, but I am too late, though. I started fauceting back in 2013, and I can earn 0.01 BTC or so per hour from faucet alone. It's worth it, but now I can barely make 0.01 BTC within a day. The faucet is still profitable if you have a lot of referrals, TBH. 
I found this forum after I had heard about Bitcoin on a technical blog I was reading back then. Google search engine spewed out this as the number one result and my journey into Bitcoin began here. I was a complete newbie when I registered. I didn't know jack shit about what to do to set up my first wallet, how to do transactions etc. Then after reading up around on the forum I managed to run my first Bitcoin miner on my AMD laptop and actually got some coins from it. Those were the times
So many new accounts here are alts, as has already been said. The sig campaign motivation I don't mind so much, though spam is a big problem. It's the farming and selling of trusted accounts that's the problem. Too many scammers around here pulling that shit.
Newbies are not newbies in one another sense also.Most of the newbies account are alt of some established member.They pretend to be newbie and most of the time bump the thread of their main account 
It is fairly obvious that a lot of the accounts are copies of other members, there is a fairly large number of people using this forum, but a lot of those people make new accounts so they can make that easy money. Going back with my thoughts when i didnt know anything about cryptos: i was a developer for an online MMORG and one guy came up with the idea to integrate Bitcoins as "inworld" payments system. Well...my "profane" thoughts and feelings were like: "bitcoin is the kingdom of dark, unlegal affairs..." or "seriously you asking me to let my money run over someone else computer?" or again "lol i will never put any of my cents over something that would nightly disappear..." etc etc 
But you know...when you sow the right seed...and make someone know about something...they will never be able to "ignore" what they seen
Said that, i'm sure you all remember those days when you started to google about bitcoins, to research, ask, wonder...etc etc. I spent a lot of months doing that, even sporadically during my boring/lazy time. Downloaded propably tons of shit, wallets, virus, unfinished works, githubs, tested faucets, lost money, started my own shit-nodes and so on till nowadays and all the activities i actually do with Bitcoin and my life
So no, when i registered my account at bitcointalk...i wasnt exactly a noob: when you "decide" to register an account at bitcointalk you have spent prolly the last weeks of your life trying to get the shit out of your brain about Bitcoin and its alts and you have propably a lot of missing sleep time on your shoulders
So welcome noobs! I'll call you "mate" by now
yup,rude people will give semothing like that,like not care and afraid or maybe disguisting to bitcoin,but honestly i have massive respect friend to me,they never ever underestimate bitcoin,they just dont know about it,and not want to know about it. But you know...when you sow the right seed...and make someone know about something...they will never be able to "ignore" what they seen
Said that, i'm sure you all remember those days when you started to google about bitcoins, to research, ask, wonder...etc etc. I spent a lot of months doing that, even sporadically during my boring/lazy time. Downloaded propably tons of shit, wallets, virus, unfinished works, githubs, tested faucets, lost money, started my own shit-nodes and so on till nowadays and all the activities i actually do with Bitcoin and my life
So no, when i registered my account at bitcointalk...i wasnt exactly a noob: when you "decide" to register an account at bitcointalk you have spent prolly the last weeks of your life trying to get the shit out of your brain about Bitcoin and its alts and you have propably a lot of missing sleep time on your shoulders
So welcome noobs! I'll call you "mate" by now
So, this forum really helped me a lot to understand bitcoin much better but still I can't say that I know everything.
Well, the average user (if you consider yourself as one) does not really know exactly how the underlying technology works in detail. If you understand the basics and some of the concepts of 'medium-complexity', then it is enough.Bows at Lauda: "Brand new to bitcoin" is mostly what i meant
This is just supposed to symbolize users that a new to this forum (if you mean the rank "brand new").
I found this forum in 2013 through a link in an article in Wired. Back then, this was the place to find out more about BTC. These days noobs head straight over to reddit for bitcoin info. It seems to me that reddit has better and more current into than this forum (though this forum is still #1 for alt information).
Newbies are not newbies in one another sense also.Most of the newbies account are alt of some established member.They pretend to be newbie and most of the time bump the thread of their main account
Ah, i always assume people i talking to are intelligent persons so i didnt consider cheaters indeed. I'm mostly thinking about "brand new to bitcoin" than "forum newbies".Kinda like what Satoshi probably did.
Agreed. Simple Machines Forum admins know your last IP > http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF2.0:Membersp.s. you used a big word like recalcitrant that i had to use google for and then say unlegal instead of illegal
LULZ i had to use google to find the right term to use as well since in my native language it is a very common term.So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
Bows at Lauda: "Brand new to bitcoin" is mostly what i meantBut I agree with the OP that people have a reluctance to register at new sites.
Reluctant! That's the term i should use!Just a quick question... Did you eventually incorporate Bitcoin into any MMORG?
Opensim and yes i managed to integrate Bitcoin in the code. The problem is confirmation awaiting time is not applicable to an online virtual world...sux!Why did you incorporate it on-chain? Why not just make all transactions within the game off-chain, or even in a fantasy currency and have them convert it or sell it on-chain?
We had a whole sub-economy with it's own currency... you buy that currency with real money { In this case Bitcoin} and then trade in and out of that? Stuff like mithril or
silver coins and things like that. You could even link it with with a 3rd party service like Xapo and have no hassles with the confirmations? I am looking for a good MMORG that
incorporates Bitcoin {NOT a Alt coin} ... If anyone knows of any, please contact me.
Newbies are not newbies in one another sense also.Most of the newbies account are alt of some established member.They pretend to be newbie and most of the time bump the thread of their main account
you can find out if they are pure newbie or not by check their history psot, mostly newbies posted in off topic or games section only to get their activity's point,anyways i remember when i was newbie, i typed faucet first and it was funny exprienced, i stoped when i realized that i will never be rich if i just stucked on that method, and it's obviously wasting my time but it's very good way to learn about bitcoin
those are not real newbie either, you can count real newbie on the finger of one hands here, there are user with 50 account at least
Newbies are not newbies in one another sense also.Most of the newbies account are alt of some established member.They pretend to be newbie and most of the time bump the thread of their main account
Ah, i always assume people i talking to are intelligent persons so i didnt consider cheaters indeed. I'm mostly thinking about "brand new to bitcoin" than "forum newbies".Kinda like what Satoshi probably did.
Agreed. Simple Machines Forum admins know your last IP > http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF2.0:Membersp.s. you used a big word like recalcitrant that i had to use google for and then say unlegal instead of illegal
LULZ i had to use google to find the right term to use as well since in my native language it is a very common term.So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
Bows at Lauda: "Brand new to bitcoin" is mostly what i meantBut I agree with the OP that people have a reluctance to register at new sites.
Reluctant! That's the term i should use!Just a quick question... Did you eventually incorporate Bitcoin into any MMORG?
Opensim and yes i managed to integrate Bitcoin in the code. The problem is confirmation awaiting time is not applicable to an online virtual world...sux! 
The problem is when people who don't really know their 'stuff' start spreading it to others and then it causes a chain of misinformation.
as proof.. the very same person who i quote. has been a member for 3 years. even managed to attain the ranking of being a moderating staff of this forum. and in that 3 years he has failed to even learn that the main bitcoin implementation he loves so much bitcoin-core, is infact not wrote in java, which he did not even know.
without even reading a line of code or white papers or even github. he still had to ask someone, after 3 years....
i feel sorry for all them people that blindly believe his words simply because he has staff as his rank
summary:
the ranking of this forum is meaningless.
So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.
Very well said
In fact, when I first time heard about Bitcoin, friend suggest me right away to register account here and start to learn about bitcoin on this forum.
So, this forum really helped me a lot to understand bitcoin much better but still I can't say that I know everything.
I'm still learning so, in this case, I'm still newbie or student
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