Newbies: Stay away and avoid all bounties! - page 3.

Hypnosis00

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

Don't forget bounties managed by reputable manager doesn't always guaranteed the project wouldn't scam, below there are some bounties the project turned become scam:

Indeed. And we don't hear any promises from them that it will succeed, only the payment and that is why they use an escrow to secure the funds.

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No one can stop scam bounties and the forum didn't moderated scam too, so we're better off to avoid all bounties and we wouldn't get scammed.

Well, it's up to you if you don't want and ignore the bounty but as you have said, bounties will never stop for they have the right to do it.
It is the responsibility of the hunters to choose wisely and promote a project that is legit. Well, some did not and they don't have the right to condemn and blame the market because in the first place they don't even bother themselves to do the searches before joining them.

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Quote from: mk4 on May 09, 2022, 02:13:31 AM

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I guess it is just one of those people referring people over and over to their known connection or the forum could even be mentioned in the wrong way by other people like "they can earn in this website" instead of seeing it as a forum as it is. It will surely die out slowly, due to scammy projects out there for sure.
There are waaaaay way more websites there that are really intended to be an "earning platform".

Saw your mention about VA. I do freelancing General VA as well as Front-End development in Upwork and I enjoy the work so far.

Quote from: death69 on May 09, 2022, 10:52:47 AM

No offense but can you show me where to find a virtual assistant job without much competition? Honestly, I've been around Freelancer.com for a while but still can find such a job. Too much spammer which makes me exhausted from competing for a position

In Upwork, you don't really need a "perfect" English skill to get through. I never even spoke a single word to my clients and they were all just text chats.
VA hovers around having to do data entry or general tech-savvy stuffs (no coding). It is an extremely competitive field, so I don't think you can find one without any sorts of competition. Luck and your proposals plays a lot of role in that site. You can still give a shot. I started back around October 2021 and still got a gig even after there were around 50+ competitors I had in the job posting.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on May 09, 2022, 02:37:52 AM

Thats depend on you how to become active here and used your time. Yes there are bounty hunters whom wasted time on posting just for sake to earn money but not all hunters are like that. There are some whose still remains as human and talk like one and were able to continue a good standing here. It does not mean that if you are bounty hunter your only purpose is to interact due to monetization alone but become an active member too contributing to this forum.

Bounty hunters are not all just for the rewards alone, but some have still made great contributions through their brilliant ideas that the forum needs to know. Maybe most of the newbies today may only aim for the money, but those bounty hunters who have been here for years have learned to realized that there is more than money in bounty hunting, knowledge and experience especially from the legends are also making the bounty more educative for all the newbies.

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Quote from: jerry0 on May 09, 2022, 04:23:44 PM

Have zero clue about these bounty campaigns but how much money could you realistically earn a month doing this now?

No exact amount.

It's just an incentive and you can't be sure if the project bounty you'll join is going to be successful. There's uncertainty on it if you're going to focus with it.

Much better to have a full time job while if you have some spare time then you can use it to join into those bounties that you think are safe and will become successful.

Quote from: jerry0 on May 09, 2022, 04:23:44 PM

What about back then when it was popular?

Majority of them were good and successful but not anymore today and, the game has completely changed.

death69

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 10, 2022, 02:48:15 AM

It would not be so insulting if, as you put it, sometimes projects could deceive. But this happens extremely rarely when projects are really useful. These projects are fraudulent, and to earn a penny, bounty hunters have to create a bunch of alternative accounts, which in turn are caught on the forum. It turns out to be a vicious circle. It is naive to think that, according to the rules of bounty projects that require the participation of only one participant, you can earn a living.

That is my mistake to use sometimes.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on May 10, 2022, 02:48:15 AM

And here you have to choose: either start studying and acquiring deeper knowledge to further increase your earnings, or "work", as the hunters say, constantly being disappointed, being deceived, and deceiving yourself.
Just compare the earnings of bounty hunters. Is this the amount you can live on?

Changing someone's mind can be considered an art, especially if it becomes their belief. Such beliefs have set a root in their mind and the longer they stay in the same stage, the stronger the root. They create a safe circle for themselves and resist any attempt to change, to alter it. Moreover, not everyone acquires the growth mindset. At this very moment, they might be pleased with the current situation and are in a different developing stage than us.

I do not know whether I'm using this phrase correctly: "Ignorance is bliss". They do not deceive themselves at all and if they are happy with their decision, how could we make any judgment on them? What we should do is persistently provide knowledge and experience for anyone who pursues it, and teach and guide others. That is why we are all here, in the "Beginners & Help" section

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Quote from: Lucius on May 10, 2022, 05:52:36 AM

It’s not even disputed that some bounty campaigns pay even a solid amount of money and even have escrowed funds - but no one wonders what they’re actually promoting, does it has any purpose at all and how many people will lose everything they invested at the end of the story? If 9 out of 10 of these projects fail within 2 years (probably before), is it moral to say you don't care because you're well paid to promote them?

Many bounty hunters only care about the amount of money they make and will sell all tokens or coins as soon as possible after the payment is made. Most of them probably don't care about what they are promoting because they don't do an analysis of the project, and here different things are certainly done by investors where developments and good potential in the future are the targets they want in the long term.

Investing in any cryptocurrency is an option that investors have considered, they know what the risks are and I think they will be responsible for whatever they will face in the future with their investment. We are not responsible for the success and failure of an altcoin project that investors are interested in, so only they will be responsible for whatever results they will get in the end.

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Avoiding all bounties is a wrong advice, some are paying their participants in Bitcoin not those shit tokens, the job of moderators on this forum is to get rid of any shitposters and spammers that won't heed warnings, that's not the members' job, if people like getting paid in peanuts its their own problem not mine or yours.

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Quote from: ANSEL_2.0 on May 10, 2022, 04:48:22 AM

I've read a lot of peoples comments on here and I see that many are rich that's why they are saying bounty isn't rewarding as before, that's a big lie, a project from Cryptopreneurbrainboss named sphere gives people over 400$ for a 4weeks campaign, I believe this is the first I've seen this year that paid that much, not all projects will bring money but some are fine with even 100$ per month.

It’s not even disputed that some bounty campaigns pay even a solid amount of money and even have escrowed funds - but no one wonders what they’re actually promoting, does it has any purpose at all and how many people will lose everything they invested at the end of the story? If 9 out of 10 of these projects fail within 2 years (probably before), is it moral to say you don't care because you're well paid to promote them?

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Quote from: jerry0 on May 09, 2022, 04:23:44 PM

Have zero clue about these bounty campaigns but how much money could you realistically earn a month doing this now? What about back then when it was popular?

I've read a lot of peoples comments on here and I see that many are rich that's why they are saying bounty isn't rewarding as before, that's a big lie, a project from Cryptopreneurbrainboss named sphere gives people over 400$ for a 4weeks campaign, I believe this is the first I've seen this year that paid that much, not all projects will bring money but some are fine with even 100$ per month.

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Quote from: jerry0 on May 09, 2022, 04:23:44 PM

Have zero clue about these bounty campaigns but how much money could you realistically earn a month doing this now? What about back then when it was popular?

If before crypto explodes to a lot of medium, you could earn a lot like 3k to 10k or more than on airdrops and bounty but now its like a peanut reward, Im saying that more likely its not worth your time now. But if you participate here on forum and become a reputable user youll rank up and given chance to participate on prominent campaigns that even pay btc. But thats not easy you need to be a high rank and has good contributions here.

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Quote from: death69 on May 09, 2022, 10:52:47 AM

And, being a spammer is paid higher than working in a workshop because of the cryptocurrency hype although sometimes you may get scammed. People say that education is the way to escape poverty or somewhat like that. But when poor people find fishing rods with the potential to bring them a lot of money than they ever imagine, they will not think about upgrading themselves or gaining more knowledge.

It would not be so insulting if, as you put it, sometimes projects could deceive. But this happens extremely rarely when projects are really useful. These projects are fraudulent, and to earn a penny, bounty hunters have to create a bunch of alternative accounts, which in turn are caught on the forum. It turns out to be a vicious circle. It is naive to think that, according to the rules of bounty projects that require the participation of only one participant, you can earn a living.
And here you have to choose: either start studying and acquiring deeper knowledge to further increase your earnings, or "work", as the hunters say, constantly being disappointed, being deceived, and deceiving yourself.
Just compare the earnings of bounty hunters. Is this the amount you can live on?

jerry0

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Have zero clue about these bounty campaigns but how much money could you realistically earn a month doing this now? What about back then when it was popular?

sunsilk

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Just have that mindset that majority of the bounties are scams and you're just throwing your effort on it in the nowhere.

Quote from: death69 on May 09, 2022, 10:52:47 AM

No offense but can you show me where to find a virtual assistant job without much competition? Honestly, I've been around Freelancer.com for a while but still can find such a job. Too much spammer which makes me exhausted from competing for a position

In most of the freelancing marketplaces, the competition for each job is very tough especially with the common virtual assistance. And to outstand with the others, you need to have more experiences and as well as quite competitive rates and skills.

Get out of freelancer.com, it has actually became a place for spammers and scammers. Try upwork.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

Take a look with this user Smking1212 he's a bounty hunter maximalist where almost of his posts posted on Bounties section (1296 from 1308 posts or 99%). Currently he already have 518 activity which is enough to become a Hero Member, but he never earn any single merit even he's an active user, that make he's still a newbie rank.

You have a very genuine concern here and I addressed this concern in my last topic Why some promising newbies fail in the forum.

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9. Mission to the Forum:
Under this factor, failure is subjective. What others see as failure might not be a failure to the user. If a newbies' mission to the forum is to shill a project, once the mission is accomplished, the user could abandoned the account and we can't confidently say that the user failed. Another instance is when a user's mission is to scam, once the scam is successful, the user will care no more about the account. Again, we see some users who are newbies but have legendary member activity because of only focusing on bounty. We cannot say that such users fail because to them their purpose of coming to the forum is achieved.

I have seen legendary activity users here but are newbies because of merits. It is not that they don't know what merit is, neither is it because they cannot make merit worthy posts. It is the path that they chose. It does not really mean that they don't care about Bitcoin or they don't know it. It is simply their interest with that account. It could be that many of them have decent alts.
I wonder how you think you can convince someone in bounty for more than 2 years that bounty is useless and not profitable.
So, the baseline is everyone has a purpose in the forum. To some of them, the essence of knowing bitcoin is to make money, then if they can make money without knowing bitcoin, it's still cool for them.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

No one can stop scam bounties and the forum didn't moderated scam too, so we're better off to avoid all bounties and we wouldn't get scammed.

I agree with some of your points, but maybe not on the last point ^{[avoiding all bounty].} Most of those bounty programs end in scam ^{[could be],} failure, and being worthless shitcoins, but I still think that there are some really good bounty programs especially when teams and projects are seriously developed. The amount may not be much, but it might be enough to say that not all prizes end up being a scam.

What you need to do is don't easily trust any bounty program without doing your due diligence on whatever they have to offer. Bounty payments handled by escrow may be safe for participants to consider, so you should be very careful when joining bounties.

death69

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Quote from: mk4 on May 09, 2022, 02:13:31 AM

Unpopular opinion for some reason: you don't need to get all your income from Bitcointalk, or the cryptocurrency industry in general. The world wide web is so vast and limitless that I really don't know why most people here think that this is their only option. I'd rather become a virtual assistant than just spam social media with crypto links.

Well, not many members have the proper English skills to become a virtual assistant. So they choose an activity that requires a low level of English and a high level of automaticity. They are the same as workers from the third world countries who are concerned about cheap-labor workforce

And, being a spammer is paid higher than working in a workshop because of the cryptocurrency hype although sometimes you may get scammed. People say that education is the way to escape poverty or somewhat like that. But when poor people find fishing rods with the potential to bring them a lot of money than they ever imagine, they will not think about upgrading themselves or gaining more knowledge.

No offense but can you show me where to find a virtual assistant job without much competition? Honestly, I've been around Freelancer.com for a while but still can find such a job. Too much spammer which makes me exhausted from competing for a position

Lucius

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

Take a look with this user Smking1212 he's a bounty hunter maximalist where almost of his posts posted on Bounties section (1296 from 1308 posts or 99%). Currently he already have 518 activity which is enough to become a Hero Member, but he never earn any single merit even he's an active user, that make he's still a newbie rank. It's pitiful to see many users didn't care anything with the forum and just doing what does he wanted in this forum.

A good example, though not the best if you're looking for those extreme cases that are uncrowned bounty kings. What do you say to 5025 posts&1330 activity or 4209 post&1540 activity? Credits to @TheBeardedBaby for found them.

Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

Don't forget bounties managed by reputable manager doesn't always guaranteed the project wouldn't scam, below there are some bounties the project turned become scam:
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No one can stop scam bounties and the forum didn't moderated scam too, so we're better off to avoid all bounties and we wouldn't get scammed.

What is the responsibility of those managers who agree to do the job at all, even though they know that most of these projects are doomed in advance? Of course, the problem is that people agree to work for a couple of dollars a month, but a much bigger problem is that this forum provides logistical support for all these projects. As long as there is an option for people to do such things they will do them, so we blame not only bounty hunters but all those who allow them to generate thousands of spam posts.

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I agree. Such trust in bounty projects only means that the people who participate in them have too much free time. Because working people are unlikely to spend their time on something that does not bring profit.

It is a pity that people do not understand that if you set aside some time for training, you can get much more, not only in material terms but by acquiring new abilities.

As for the OP's account you gave as an example, I wouldn't be surprised if he has more alternatives that he hopes to increase his bounty profits with.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 09, 2022, 02:06:16 AM

Based on the spreadsheet the average hunters get 25,000 tokens or $1.96475 after working for 4 weeks. The signature campaign participants got the highest share of 1914893 tokens or $150

And this is actually the worst thing that can ever happen to someone after working tirelessly for several weeks or months on a particular bounty campaign, and after distribution, you just have to wait some months for the token to be listed on an exchange where it could be swapped to a tradable coin such as Bitcoin or USDT.

I will rather advise Newbies to stop wasting time on bounties, and strive to grow on this forum, because what an ordinary "Member" earn a week from signature campaign is more than what a Newbie earn a year from a shitcoin bounty hunt.

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@Apocallapse the user you used as an example is a shit poster, this days few bounty managers will fail to give you stake for the week unless you post high quality posts only, I am talking about someone like brain boss, joining bounties shouldn't stop anyone from ranking up, if you aren't earning merits you are a shit poster.

CEASER and other high APY projects in bounty section are scams

The need for turbo pissed me off the first time I went through the website.

The thing is many bounty hunters are rushing projects as if its the ICO era once again, no one cares about doing research before promoting projects, so the consequences of doing this is getting almost zero rewards or making nothing at all.

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