Topic: [NEWS] Butterfly Labs - Shut Down by US Government (Read 7727 times)

Only a little until he has learned his lesson and probably beg like the customers pleading for refunds. Only in this case it falls on deaf ears until he just accepts it.

hehe all in good joke ofcoure 

Wow, I've been away a while and I come back to this.

I'm pretty glad that they've been shut down. Making so many people wait for so long whilst holding onto their money was pretty poor show. Treating them so badly whilst ripping them off was just too far.

I remember Josh behaving like it was the customers at fault for being impatient. Whilst I don't wish for him to be sexually assaulted, I do hope he takes a share of the responsibility that'll be handed out. He certainly deserves that.

My commiserations to the people who lost money to those criminals.

The following might me some good news.

Recall that Josh Zerlan's name is not mentioned on FTC documents since he's not a principal. Thus, he can't refuse to testify come trial time and MUST take the stand.

"For the record, Mr. Zerlan, take us back to the day on ? when you looked out your office window and realized that BFL's office was located across the street in a housing project."

"Yes. So, there's this forum, and BFL was first introduced, then somebody claimed they were located in KC."

"Go on."

"Yes. Well, I was just a miner with a pool..."

"A bitcoin miner."

"Yes, that. And I mined on my pool..."

"Eclipse."

"Ahh-wooooooo!"

"I object!"

"Sustained. Mr. Zerlan, they'll be no howling in this courtroom. Proceed."

"Sorry, your Honor. Council said "Eclipse" and that excited me. Yes, Eclipse Mining Pool, or EMC for short."

"C equals Pool? You said EMC."

"Yes."

"But Eclipse Mining Pool does not equate to EMC. What gives?"

"Chewbacca."

"Order in the Court! May I remind the jury to refrain from laughing. Mr. Zerlan, please address the original question."

"Will the question please be re-asked?"

"I withdraw the question, your Honor. No further questions."

"DA, do you have any questions for the witness?"

"Damn tootin', your Honor. I'm goin' start by asking the same question, then proceed to Eclipse."

"Ahh-wooooooo!"

good point...but it is unlikely the FTC will go into that speculative can of worms..but by all means feel free ...if I am in error on this would be a boon for us who
did not get miners ..(in my case 65mm that I eventually ugraded to monarchs was told april 12th 2013 orders I would get the units in may 2014...got the 1 jally
rather then convert that itty bitty to GH farm (wanted out) on halloween 2014...so yeah I'd likely have something like 400 or so btc from 210 gh I had on order
in april ....(i did get 1/2 of that back on last day of a paypal dispute the other half was the 8.5k ...i was a brave little newbie back in the day)

older/wiser

but def those going afte BFL make sure you tell about loss/stress/potential profit ...and if they are receptive to this for crying out loud let me know I will also
beat a path to their door

but I think it extemely unlikely anyone will get compensated for stuff they shoulda/coulda mined although it sets your case up nicely against and proving a bfl scam

wtf do I know I drank the kool aid from bfl at one time (hangs head in past newbie shame)

But what about the loss of hashing time/BTC income you missed out on because of BFL not delivering your $8.5k usd order of monarch(s) on (reasonable) time?!?

That surely is (a lot) more than $190 usd...?

forums are still up on bfl (shout box is down) someone should ask to get all us folk that were banned for stating BFL was ripping us off back on there (heh)

I ordered a Jally (1st order) which I kept rather then convert to gh hashing (worked out $$ wise that way with refund) lost 1/2 of it in sale on ebay....but figure that others
need that $190 or so bucks out of bfl more then I do ..i got the bulk back $8.5k usd from monarch(s) non delivery on my 65mm deluded upgrade to monarch in aug 2013
refunded the 8.5k this last june 2014...

so will not bother with this $190 usd real loss....other folks need it more then me out of BFL

Latest update on the BFL homepage:

"BF Labs, Inc. has been placed in a temporary receivership pursuant to court order, Case No. 4:14-cv-00815-BCW. There will be a hearing on September 29, 2014 at 9:00 a.m. at the Charles Evans Whittaker Courthouse in Kansas City, Missouri. At the hearing, the court will consider this matter. Questions may be directed to the temporary receiver at: [email protected] or 816-292-8316."

Please people, this aint over "till the fat lady sings"; contact the receiver and explain your position in this!

(My story is something like: ordered in jan. expected delivery in march/april, due to BFL's non-delivery I missed this much BTC income by the time BFL refunded me [after another 45 day wait] in august and I finally could divert that investment to another producer [Antminer] who did deliver in two weeks, in the mean time BFL banned me permanently off the forum so I could not communicate properly with either them or other customers.)

I don't disagree but we are talking Josh Z. here ..he will sing like a canary to the feds for immunity...and he is as slippery as jello..imho he may just walk..

now as to the IRS sniffing around now with all this Bitcoin money moving around mysteriously

....well you could have a point there.....but one case at a time....heh

countries off hand that I think? have no extradition (we could start a 'where' josh gonna go thread" start a btc pool time/date


north korea
syria
russia (they can send him back like with snowden prob not .due to being p/o'd at usa now)
burma
venezulea




well that is who comes to mind now off hand (i think the above are correct)

feel free to add others

Following orders? Really that is his defense is it Searing. LOL! He was involved in the decision making and knew full well what was going on day to day. He can't feign ignorance.

There is plenty of evidence just in these forums to use against him if tries that ploy. His only option is to lawyer up and rat out Sonny V and the others at the top. Pretty sure that is where this will end up. Ideally he doesn't do that and tries to ride out the BTC and IRS and Criminal prosecution coming his way and goes down with BFL to the bitter end.

I'd think that is now toast in that the trial date was tenatively set from what I remember for middle of jan 2016

just a guess but this will be wrapped up in a bow by then in my view

as for Josh nothing will happen to Josh he will just say he was misled and touting the company line as his job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG4W0LbIvW0

squeal josh squeal, funny clip josh zerlan jackson county corrections

So is there a class action lawsuit yet?  'cause I want in on that shit.

Funny how the prison/rape posts AREN'T considered off-topic. Why? Because those who got raped by BFL have been in prison awaiting what they ordered. Worse, all their prison sentences just got extended infinitely because of the FTC's action.

Ergo, thousands of individuals when through, or going through, and some maybe continue to go through various degrees of mental anguish due to being raped by BFL, yet, sadly, at least one dude doesn't think prison rape is funny for the leading principals of BFL. I concur! I think it's fuckin' hilarious! BRING OUT THE GIMP (from cell H).

You're right, rape isn't funny it's painful. Maybe prison rape is the wrong thing to wish on them.

I hope their fellow inmates treat them with the same love and respect that they have used on this community of people. That should guarantee they get fucked, beaten down and berated every day.

If someone deserves it - then Inaba/Josh..

I just remember that Video from the Fair (CES?) where he was a dickhead and gave a quarter to a forum user for "not talking" with him..
This was the day this dude raised ALL the red flags ... (and for BFL too..)

or the fact that Josh had something to do with it = AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE.

No, you are not.


I really doubt that prison will change these guys' behavior.  When they get out they'll go right back to ripping ppl off.  The only benefit will be that they can't run their game for as long as they're locked up.

Instead we'll be paying their living expenses through our tax bills, while making the private prison industry richer.  

first off prison rape is not that common.  Second Josh and Sonny will be in white collar prisons if they get sentenced. So rape is even less common.

Third If indeed they are proven guilty and end up in prison I hope they get long sentences .

Must be,cause I WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!  

My you get raped by VERY large men,many times a day Josh & Sonny  

R.I.P.=Rape In Prison  

BTW,DON'T DO THE CRIME,YOU WON'T HAVE TO DO THE TIME (or get raped) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simple..................  

How do you feel about fuckin' little old ladies outta millions with a lottery scheme?

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/voices.html


This makes two, so you're not alone, bud.