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The number of tragedies has remained on average at about 38 deaths a year for the past decade, says Jan Null, a consulting meteorologist who records such cases.

Hot car deaths: The children left behind

I first heard about a similar case more than 15 years ago. Even then it was unbelievable to me that someone could "forget" a child in the car for several hours, now that I have my own children something like this sounds unimaginable to me! I don't know what were they thinking about in those moments, what they hoped for... but what they caused is an indescribable tragedy! It's devastating that things like this happen, I don't know what should be done with these people, what measures to take... it's obvious that children are not for everyone!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/juan-rodriguez-twins-dead-hot-car-death-bronx-veteran-a9025761.html
Although it was a case of murder and parental negligence, the US citizen was not sent to prison because even his family including his testified that he loved the children and there was no reason for him to kill them.  

Maybe businesses should consider having children corners where customers can keep their children during transactions. Maybe they can be charged little fees for these services.
Negligence beyond any other reason is the why of so many mishaps. The parents might not have forgotten the kids on purpose but most times when the mind is on autopilot, thinking about how to make ends meet while multitasking, becomes a fight for attention.
It is important also to ascertain the composure and preparedness of couples who intend to start having children to check for habits that might cause an incident of such to occur.  Parents should also no matter what, gamble when kids are around or under immediate care, because the attention will be diverted to the most interesting of the two, which is gambling. For the children that don't make noise or cry often, noise bracelet or some form of device that help indicate the presence or absence of them should be used, so as to help the conscious mind keep track of these young ones while doing something else for extra cash.
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Damn that's kind of news that makes people hate gambling and gamblers. People should be careful if they own kids. Friggin opening windows of a car can be enough for most of the time. Anyways someone should never leave kids alone in such potentially dangerous locations. Lives worth everything. Especially a kid's life is the most important thing in world. This should be mainly shown to people that own kids and addicted to gambling. Using video monitors can help save many lives.
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This does not happen in Brick n Mortar casinos only.... that mother could have come back from grocery shopping... and the kid could have been sleeping in the car, when she unloaded it... she might have unpacked the groceries... and then poured herself a glass of wine and started gambling on her favorite online gambling site.... forgetting about the child in the car.  Roll Eyes

Things like this happens every day.... some people have lots of kids and the mother and father are very tired and mistakes happen. (Look at how many kids die in swimming pools every year)  Sad

This is very sad.... and the mother is going to have to live with that for the rest of her life. (Spending some of that time in jail, where you have lots of time to think about those mistakes)
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The number of tragedies has remained on average at about 38 deaths a year for the past decade, says Jan Null, a consulting meteorologist who records such cases.

Hot car deaths: The children left behind

I first heard about a similar case more than 15 years ago. Even then it was unbelievable to me that someone could "forget" a child in the car for several hours, now that I have my own children something like this sounds unimaginable to me! I don't know what were they thinking about in those moments, what they hoped for... but what they caused is an indescribable tragedy! It's devastating that things like this happen, I don't know what should be done with these people, what measures to take... it's obvious that children are not for everyone!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/juan-rodriguez-twins-dead-hot-car-death-bronx-veteran-a9025761.html
There was also a similar case in the United States three years when a man left his twin babies in the car and forgot them and they both died from hyperthermia. Although this mistake is very costly, thing like this happens. The global economic crisis is making people absent-minded and confused. Everybody is calculating how to get alternative sources of income and survive.

If they can prove that she did that intentionally, then she should be charged and punished. But she should be considered if it was unintentional. Although it was a case of murder and parental negligence, the US citizen was not sent to prison because even his family including his testified that he loved the children and there was no reason for him to kill them.  

Maybe businesses should consider having children corners where customers can keep their children during transactions. Maybe they can be charged little fees for these services.
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Actually this does not have to be associated with the type of busyness, even people who are too concentrated on what is in front of their nose will forget things that happened around them or were done a few minutes before.
But this is good as a warning people that one of the fatal negligence by accidentally killing his child can be done while playing casino. So, the main subject is neglectful parents, not playing in casinos.
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The number of tragedies has remained on average at about 38 deaths a year for the past decade, says Jan Null, a consulting meteorologist who records such cases.

Hot car deaths: The children left behind

I first heard about a similar case more than 15 years ago. Even then it was unbelievable to me that someone could "forget" a child in the car for several hours, now that I have my own children something like this sounds unimaginable to me! I don't know what were they thinking about in those moments, what they hoped for... but what they caused is an indescribable tragedy! It's devastating that things like this happen, I don't know what should be done with these people, what measures to take... it's obvious that children are not for everyone!

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I don’t fully understand the news so correct me if I’m wrong. The mother leave his kids on the car without AC turn on that result to suffocation due to the heat?
Yes, the mother leaves those children on the car and yes, AC is probably off too since it's not recommended to turn the engine on and the AC for several hours assuming the mother leaves the children for several hours.

Unfortunately, every year there is some news like that in my country. People who leave their children in the car in the summer in the sun, going shopping or whatever, and because of the overheating of the sun and the fact that young children are more vulnerable, they end up dying.

This is the first time I've seen it related to gambling, though, that the mother had gone to the casino. It's a mixture of irresponsibility and not being aware of the possible consequences.
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This is the saddest news I read today. I knew this case isn't possible when in online gambling but this is possible for other unfortunate circumstances too especially at home or somewhere else when you're doing your online gambling activity.
Yes, when parents are negligent they will be like that in any situations and environments. I don't doubt there are gamblers who play online and still don't pay attention to their children, don't feed them, don't talk to them and don't supply every other basic demands children have on that period of their lives. Many of these cases remain in silence until something more extreme happens, like the event shared by you reported on the news.
Unfortunatelly from times to times we hear stories about kids who died locked inside cars at the parking while the parents are shopping on the mall or supermarket, but I must say it's the first time I hear kids have died because the parent was actually gambling at a casino. That is shocking and repulsive.
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This is the importance of parental supervision of their children and should not be careless in leaving their children without their parents. The case is sad news where parents don't pay attention to their children and instead leave them to play gambling.

When you want to play gambling at a local casino, you have to make sure that your children are safe so you can leave the house without worrying and what you have to worry about next is how much money you spend on the gambling table.

Your children are your priority before you leave them and never leave them alone unattended. We would not know what they would do without us and because of that, we can ask for help from other family members to look after the children while we are away.
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This could happen whether you are in a brick and mortar or online casino. The moment you're hooked on gambling whether online or not, your entire focus and attention could be totally absorbed by the games and your bets to the point that you forget your responsibilities and everything else.

It's just unfortunate that the kids had to die. And, of all, it's a mother who failed. This is so sad. It would have been better if the kids went hungry for a while, or was fetched late at school, or wasn't attended to in his/her recital presentation because of negligence. But it took their lives. This mother should go to jail.
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A careless mother’s casino time resulted in her children’s death. The neglectful parent had left her kids in a hot car to place a few punts at a local casino without considering the consequences.
This is the saddest news I read today. I knew this case isn't possible when in online gambling but this is possible for other unfortunate circumstances too especially at home or somewhere else when you're doing your online gambling activity.

This should be a lesson to take to all parents out there that family is priority first before anything else especially children.

I wonder if there are parents who have experienced something like this or someone knew that has the same case, not with the one with a dead case though but something accident happened because of neglect parenting.


Without a doubt it is a very sad news, now I can understand that people are not perfect and we make mistakes, however for a kid or a pet to die inside a car under hot weather is something that takes a lot of time.

Even if the mother somehow forgot about the children as long as she became aware of the mistake in a few minutes then nothing bad would have happened, so we are talking about a very severe case of negligence, because as far as I know it is widely known that doing something like this is a very bad idea and it can lead to death, as it did in this case.
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Oh man this isn't even just about gambling imo, it's about proper child management in general. Man idk how the idea of leaving a 2 and 3 year old kid in a car for 6 hours was a good idea on her end. And it's even more so considering how her cousin described her as a "caring mother".
I wonder why it's called murder though.
I think it's considered a negligent homicide, if I used that correctly?
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Seeing that she can afford entertain herself in the casino, therefore her family can afford to pay baby sitter to look after the kids. Now she gonna stand trial for not hiring instead. All that falls to her not being responsible enough. As a result, she will not just lose her kids but also her freedom.

I wonder why it's called murder though.
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A careless mother’s casino time resulted in her children’s death. The neglectful parent had left her kids in a hot car to place a few punts at a local casino without considering the consequences.
This is the saddest news I read today. I knew this case isn't possible when in online gambling but this is possible for other unfortunate circumstances too especially at home or somewhere else when you're doing your online gambling activity.

This should be a lesson to take to all parents out there that family is priority first before anything else especially children.

I wonder if there are parents who have experienced something like this or someone knew that has the same case, not with the one with a dead case though but something accident happened because of neglect parenting.


Everything could really happen even on things that we didnt expect for it to happen into that certain extent but well we do know that addiction could really cause that mind disruption
which would really lead into having that thinking which isnt already normal since you've been minding on playing no matter what or being desperate which would cause that you would
might able to leave and forget things behind even on your loved ones. Basing on the incident on OP then now that mother will really be facing up on the consequences yet
she let her kids die because of negligence or on that severe addiction.She would not able to play gambling for long years or in forever inside prison.
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A careless mother’s casino time resulted in her children’s death. The neglectful parent had left her kids in a hot car to place a few punts at a local casino without considering the consequences.
This is the saddest news I read today. I knew this case isn't possible when in online gambling but this is possible for other unfortunate circumstances too especially at home or somewhere else when you're doing your online gambling activity.

This should be a lesson to take to all parents out there that family is priority first before anything else especially children.

I wonder if there are parents who have experienced something like this or someone knew that has the same case, not with the one with a dead case though but something accident happened because of neglect parenting.



I am sure not all gamblers are like this! This is a classic example of uneducated people who doesn't know the consequence of keep a child inside a car parked in open during daytime. It's bad parenting and no mercy should be shown to these morons who risked their child's life for some mare gambling activities. Honestly I have never seen such incident before. People don't even leave their pets inside a car without keeping the AC on and this was a human baby. Deeply saddened to see a death resulting out of this incident. It's a moronic act and these people should be treated in a similar way by the court of law.
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I read the news about the case of their child's death in the car, despite some objections from the female cousin, my response was absurd and ridiculous.

From what I read, I draw the conclusion:
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Leaving one’s kids unattended to gamble is considered to be an offense. Casinos would usually ban such visitors from playing. Unfortunately, many people choose to ignore these rules and still go for a few wagers while their kids wait in the car.

That's the result of gambling addiction, reckless, didn't the woman think about leaving her child in the car in the heat, didn't she think about gambling without remembering her sons and daughters were in the car, This is an omission from the mother herself, clearly the warning from the casino states as above, prohibited.

For me, this case should be given a severe punishment for the mother, so that other mothers who are addicted to gambling will be reminded with punishment if they cause their children to die because of carelessness.
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This problem isn't about she's a gambler, but she's careless. I remembered there's a news about careless guy that walk away from lift, but his dog still stuck inside the lift and it make dog's neck choke due to the rope. I don't remember the dog is die or survived, but I think it's a stupid mistake done from the guy.

I'm just think why she need to bring their kids while she want to gamble which is not a short time, she shouldn't bring any kids if she want to do anything alone.
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leaving her kids for six hour unattended while they were just 2 and 3 yr old kids. what the husband would do to this woman is unimaginable. but this is is also very tragic for a mother losing 2 kids. she will probably not forgive herself with this.  

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I don’t fully understand the news so correct me if I’m wrong. The mother leave his kids on the car without AC turn on that result to suffocation due to the heat?
Yes, the mother leaves those children on the car and yes, AC is probably off too since it's not recommended to turn the engine on and the AC for several hours assuming the mother leaves the children for several hours.
Also it's highly not recommended leaving your children in those hot area are like vegas which turns to same this unfortunate incident.

Found some local news of car-related incident of elder or young ones or pets inside the car who seeks help due to suffocation or something then someone break the window too like what you and jackg mentioned.
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This is very sad news, a mother is willing to leave her child in the car while she plays gambling for hours there, maybe she is so addicted that she is so free when she plays but she forgets her child to death, this incident I just heard now.

I will never neglect my family, especially children, I play gambling when I have free time and it is not accompanied when I play with my children. Of course I have to have time with my family and children to play because I don't want this to happen.
That is how gambling should be, I too just gamble when I have free time, I have free time during weekends, I bet mostly on football, which is a perfect time for me. I am an online gambler than visiting a casino. Visiting a casino could be different, there is more pleasure derived from visiting casino, just like going to bar to have some fun. But regardless of what we would call it, it is her carelessness that led to her children's death.

Her carelessness led to his children'd death, but it may not be willingly like you said, there have been many that have happened in the past that a mother or a father would forget totally that her or his child or children are inside the car. We must be careful, watchful, be vigilant and be a good parent. If the women is innocent, she would also now be in pain, like her life is taken from her already. That is why I just hate this kind of thing to occur, but it do occur. This has been the first I have heard of, that is related to gambling.
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