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legendary
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April 18, 2018, 10:30:32 PM
#46
In one of my comments I wrote that next top can be at 200k dollars. I made interesting calculation, in 2013 happened top at 1200 dollars and drop to 200 dollars, remember drop for 6 times and later rise to 20k dollars. That was 100 times rise. Now in 2018 we have drop again and this time to bottom at 5k, imagine next run and at least 20 times higher price, but I believe it will be 50 times higher and that is more then 200k.
I don't think it will happen this year, after halving in 2020 so maybe in 2021. Maybe that will happen faster, like in the end of this year or maybe next one, but I doubt it. Price will rise but only after 2021 I expect this huge bull run and price with 5 digits. With price we never know, my prediction is based on years here, watching price moving and what people talk. I believe in my prediction like 70-30.

Yup it sure was a 100x rise from the bottom of the last crash to the height of the last boom. Pretty crazy. If this crash has bottomed out it did so at roughly $6k, or as you say (more roughly) $5k. With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles. I think a 10-20x from the $6k bottom is more likely, conservatively I'm predicting it to be closer to 10x. You have to remember the bottom this time at $6k is 30x higher than the last bottom at $200. So it takes 30x more money demand to move by the same percentage, and you're saying its gonna move (200k/6k=33.3x) at least a third as much as it did last time, despite it being 30x harder.
Now obviously a lot more money will flow in next time as the audience expands exponentially and institutional investors likely hop on board with many times more money, but still 10x or maybe 15x feels like a more likely situation for the next boom since its 30x harder to move the market now.

Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin

Each of us have different opinion. Many times underestimated bitcoin strength, this time I made some bold predictions and we will see what will happen. Your prediction sounds more realistic then mine, and before two years I always tried to be humble as possible but after I so how quick price raised from 1k to 20k dollars I know everything is possible with bitcoin.
Time will tell who was more close with all of our predictions. I know now that with bitcoin is hard to make any realistic predictions, every time I tried that I was wrong, price surprised me with its rise. We will see what will happen, let's remember our predictions and see who was right, we can even place some little bet for that.
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April 18, 2018, 01:59:04 PM
#45
In one of my comments I wrote that next top can be at 200k dollars. I made interesting calculation, in 2013 happened top at 1200 dollars and drop to 200 dollars, remember drop for 6 times and later rise to 20k dollars. That was 100 times rise. Now in 2018 we have drop again and this time to bottom at 5k, imagine next run and at least 20 times higher price, but I believe it will be 50 times higher and that is more then 200k.
I don't think it will happen this year, after halving in 2020 so maybe in 2021. Maybe that will happen faster, like in the end of this year or maybe next one, but I doubt it. Price will rise but only after 2021 I expect this huge bull run and price with 5 digits. With price we never know, my prediction is based on years here, watching price moving and what people talk. I believe in my prediction like 70-30.

Yup it sure was a 100x rise from the bottom of the last crash to the height of the last boom. Pretty crazy. If this crash has bottomed out it did so at roughly $6k, or as you say (more roughly) $5k. With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles. I think a 10-20x from the $6k bottom is more likely, conservatively I'm predicting it to be closer to 10x. You have to remember the bottom this time at $6k is 30x higher than the last bottom at $200. So it takes 30x more money demand to move by the same percentage, and you're saying its gonna move (200k/6k=33.3x) at least a third as much as it did last time, despite it being 30x harder.
Now obviously a lot more money will flow in next time as the audience expands exponentially and institutional investors likely hop on board with many times more money, but still 10x or maybe 15x feels like a more likely situation for the next boom since its 30x harder to move the market now.

Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin
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April 18, 2018, 01:42:53 PM
#44
I expected that you would say exactly that. The Mt. Gox debacle is also history now. The price had gone down more than 5 times back in the day, so why not talk about that as well? And let's hope it is actually history by now. Other than that, I for one don't see much sense in so wild speculations. If it gives you some comfort, then more power to you, of course, but don't forget that before we reach 70k tomorrow or even 70M in a couple years for that matter, we still should break plenty of resistance which sits at or around some measly 10k right now.

So basically you just don't want other people to talk about predictions. Why even bother reading and commenting on posts about predictions? You don't like them, just ignore them. Most people like predicting things so its a fun thing discuss. As I didn't make a prediction thread about how far the price is going to go down....because that JUST happened. There's nothing to predict there. People were predicting how far it would go down the past few months. And now that is history too, so there is nothing to predict in that regards. Seriously, if you don't like reading about people talking about the future of bitcoin's price, just don't bother reading it. There's no reason to comment just to complain about how you don't like predictions.

It is not a prediction, it is a wild speculation bordering on wishful thinking as I already said. And yes, I don't want people to talk about that like that as there are a lot of newbies around here who can take these talks seriously and then suffer severe losses just because someone was kinda predicting Bitcoin prices of 70k at bitcointalk. You may indeed say that everyone for himself after all but that you should have said in the OP as a sort of disclaimer. And while I basically agree with this last point, it is not what Bitcoin needs right now. It doesn't need more losers.


The topic of the thread says "predictions". And that's exactly what these are. No disclaimer needed. Everyone knows what the word prediction means. Seriously stop commenting on a prediction thread just to complain that you don't like predictions. You're just wasting space.
legendary
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April 16, 2018, 06:56:22 PM
#43
Well... To be honest, i think that it is not going to happen anytime soon, we are just seeing a "trailer" of what the bull run is gonna be.

I think that if we are gonna see another x2 in a short term, it will be after August, or September.. That is my final bet.

Or maybe on December, like last year.

In last quarter might see it, for now many still in doubt that bitcoin can do it now that's why when it arise even a little they sell it already, those who will put more patience aiming for bull run needs to wait a little longer.
sr. member
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Hexhash.xyz
April 16, 2018, 05:05:15 PM
#42
Well... To be honest, i think that it is not going to happen anytime soon, we are just seeing a "trailer" of what the bull run is gonna be.

I think that if we are gonna see another x2 in a short term, it will be after August, or September.. That is my final bet.

Or maybe on December, like last year.
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April 16, 2018, 04:45:31 PM
#41
Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

When will it begin, how high will it go, and when will it end resulting in the next major crash?

Bull run here I'm talking about when the price is at an ATH and starts pumping in dramatic fashion, and the bull run ends when it experiences a major lasting crash. For example, last bull run basically started May 1st when bitcoin started pumping from around $1300/1400 and started shooting up hundreds of dollars. And it ended mid-December, the previous crashes last year were shorter corrections during the bull run.


So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019
In my opinion the next bull run is going to start will start until the middle of the next year and I think will goes something close to 40,000 to 50,000 dollars and then it will crash to a price close to 20,000 dollars so in my opinion this is the perfect time to begin to buy bitcoin before the next bull run the best thing is that you have a lot of time before that happens.
Now bitcoin price has taken the step and it is expected that it will now continue increasing tell the end of the year 2018, it is expected that at the end of 2018 the bitcoin price will be trading above 50000$ and therefore we can expect that bitcoin price will continue increasing its price through the whole year.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
April 16, 2018, 03:55:56 PM
#40
Why are people interested in predictions? Are you so addicted to hear the positive news? You have many times faced the fact that all predictions is only an attempt to guess the behavior of bitcoin and nothing more. Even if you assume that you will know the future of bitcoin you will not be able to change its future.

Because it's fun.

It's fun to imagine and it's fun to revisit to see who was eerily right and who was laughably wrong.

I particularly enjoy being proven miserably wrong. I think my prediction in 2015 for 2017's high was $263.43 as I always like to under promise and over deliver.
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April 16, 2018, 03:50:51 PM
#39
Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

When will it begin, how high will it go, and when will it end resulting in the next major crash?

Bull run here I'm talking about when the price is at an ATH and starts pumping in dramatic fashion, and the bull run ends when it experiences a major lasting crash. For example, last bull run basically started May 1st when bitcoin started pumping from around $1300/1400 and started shooting up hundreds of dollars. And it ended mid-December, the previous crashes last year were shorter corrections during the bull run.


So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019
In my opinion the next bull run is going to start will start until the middle of the next year and I think will goes something close to 40,000 to 50,000 dollars and then it will crash to a price close to 20,000 dollars so in my opinion this is the perfect time to begin to buy bitcoin before the next bull run the best thing is that you have a lot of time before that happens.
sr. member
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April 16, 2018, 03:49:46 PM
#38
I don't know when the next bull run will be, but it will a huge one, that's for sure.
So I will skip the time frame, when it's going to happen, however in terms of price it could be something between $50K and $100k.
Bitcoin mooning around the next halvening would make the most sense imo. But Bitcoin doesn't care about what we think and just does whatever and whenever it wants right.

Bitcoin price has the ability to increase its in a short time, it is depending on the interest of the people if people are interest in bitcoin then they will even trading bitcoin if it have a good price, but i think that in current time as bitcoin is still trading in low price, people should take benefit from it and should not waste time and should invest money here.
legendary
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April 16, 2018, 12:33:42 PM
#37
In one of my comments I wrote that next top can be at 200k dollars. I made interesting calculation, in 2013 happened top at 1200 dollars and drop to 200 dollars, remember drop for 6 times and later rise to 20k dollars. That was 100 times rise. Now in 2018 we have drop again and this time to bottom at 5k, imagine next run and at least 20 times higher price, but I believe it will be 50 times higher and that is more then 200k.
I don't think it will happen this year, after halving in 2020 so maybe in 2021. Maybe that will happen faster, like in the end of this year or maybe next one, but I doubt it. Price will rise but only after 2021 I expect this huge bull run and price with 5 digits. With price we never know, my prediction is based on years here, watching price moving and what people talk. I believe in my prediction like 70-30.
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April 16, 2018, 11:42:31 AM
#36
I guess so, but these are just individual predictions and analyzes. no one will know when it will be like that, proved a lot of predictions are missed. do not think too much about it, it's just a matter of time. now we need to focus to get out of the $ 10,000 first, I'm sure if the current market performance is good then the future will also be good, sir.
I can not say for sure all this, its clear the price in every month and year for its future will always be good in my opinion.
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April 16, 2018, 11:15:54 AM
#35
I think there will be another bull run, maybe to $70k, but later than you prediction. Maybe the second half of 2019. I doubt we'll see another ATH or $20k in 2018. Even return to $10k would be good. Of course, bitcoin is unpredictable, it is only a guess.
It is possible indeed for another bull run as the market will going to be higher. But this questions is hard because no one knows how long we will see a bull run. We can guess but as long their is good news in this market we can see a good signs to have a slowly recovering of price.
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April 16, 2018, 10:38:55 AM
#34
I expected that you would say exactly that. The Mt. Gox debacle is also history now. The price had gone down more than 5 times back in the day, so why not talk about that as well? And let's hope it is actually history by now. Other than that, I for one don't see much sense in so wild speculations. If it gives you some comfort, then more power to you, of course, but don't forget that before we reach 70k tomorrow or even 70M in a couple years for that matter, we still should break plenty of resistance which sits at or around some measly 10k right now.

So basically you just don't want other people to talk about predictions. Why even bother reading and commenting on posts about predictions? You don't like them, just ignore them. Most people like predicting things so its a fun thing discuss. As I didn't make a prediction thread about how far the price is going to go down....because that JUST happened. There's nothing to predict there. People were predicting how far it would go down the past few months. And now that is history too, so there is nothing to predict in that regards. Seriously, if you don't like reading about people talking about the future of bitcoin's price, just don't bother reading it. There's no reason to comment just to complain about how you don't like predictions.

It is not a prediction, it is a wild speculation bordering on wishful thinking as I already said. And yes, I don't want people to talk about that like that as there are a lot of newbies around here who can take these talks seriously and then suffer severe losses just because someone was kinda predicting Bitcoin prices of 70k at bitcointalk. You may indeed say that everyone for himself after all but that you should have said in the OP as a sort of disclaimer. And while I basically agree with this last point, it is not what Bitcoin needs right now. It doesn't need more losers.
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April 16, 2018, 07:01:18 AM
#33
when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?

We have no idea how long this will last but for sure it will spike again, and by the way talking about major crash actually its always happened which is after when bitcoin reach the ATH , and also no one can detect and predict when it will happen. And the fact is no one can scape on it,  so must sell if you already gained enough from it and don't ever wait for any sudden drop to ensure that you profits is safe and to avoid ending up in regrets.  'cause market nowadays is very unpredictable,
legendary
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April 16, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
#32
I don't know when the next bull run will be, but it will a huge one, that's for sure.
So I will skip the time frame, when it's going to happen, however in terms of price it could be something between $50K and $100k.
Bitcoin mooning around the next halvening would make the most sense imo. But Bitcoin doesn't care about what we think and just does whatever and whenever it wants right.
hero member
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April 16, 2018, 06:35:22 AM
#31
Why are people interested in predictions?
It adds positive vibes to the market and gives new, small and big investors a chill on what they are investing. Also you have to know that bitcoin is a speculative investment and speculations are essential to the market.
Are you so addicted to hear the positive news?
We all want to hear positive news, we are all sick of bad news. As a bitcoin HOLDER, I would love to hear those positive news instead of negative ones.
legendary
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April 16, 2018, 06:27:17 AM
#30
But at the price of $ 70k it is very risky there may be many people are afraid to quickly sell it before they do not get a big profit, people would think that way that could make the market panic. Very potentially the price will surpass $ 20k and continue to surpass the previous price for quite a long time, as it is now very cautious to invest and find the right opportunity, aided by the positive news that is happening now, strong enough to rise again gradually.
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April 16, 2018, 06:21:06 AM
#29
Why are people interested in predictions? Are you so addicted to hear the positive news? You have many times faced the fact that all predictions is only an attempt to guess the behavior of bitcoin and nothing more. Even if you assume that you will know the future of bitcoin you will not be able to change its future.
hero member
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April 16, 2018, 06:19:26 AM
#28
Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

I expect a bull run, but not as optimistic as yours. Something at 16k-50k maybe.
But I expect it earlier. The market seems impatient. We may already have 30k by mid-August.
This august? In my speculation it will be slowly moving up and by august around 15k a half of yours then most likely ATH again in december that may be able to reach 30-40k usd as double the last 2017 ATH then having a major correction afterwards.


You're pretty close to my prediction, except I think only doubling is far too small. Sure bull runs are and will continue to increase the ATH by a smaller and smaller percentage. But doubling is way to small at this point. Spring 2011 did ~$1 -> ~$32 I think, so about 30x, Spring 2013 did ~$15 -> >$200 so about 15x, Fall 2013 went from >$100 to >$1000 about 10x, 2017 actually went back to even higher gains from $1k to $20k for 20x though that was probably because it was the first time bitcoin really started to get mainstream attention so it was more like 3 consecutive smaller bull runs in the spring, summer, and fall.

So if it is only going to double to $40k, that would probably just be the first bull run of a longer more sustained period like we had in 2017.
hero member
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April 16, 2018, 06:09:06 AM
#27
The previous pump till 20k$ was because of many newbies entering bitcoins and buying every bit of what they can afford.
Now everyone possible investor knows about bitcoins(and most of them hate it now).

So now bitcoins is more effected by the bad news(causing dips).And a good news doesn't change the price much now.As long as something doesn't happen to cause a huge demand and transactions.I don't think we can see another bull run crossing even 1500$ and up.

As some of the guys have already mentioned in this thread, halving(2020) is the only point I can see it going for a run uphill.



The only reason what you say is true is because we're in a bear market. Bear markets end.

You think people won't act the exact same way on the next bull run? Of course they will. Its psychology. Some that got burned won't, but many many more who have never bought bitcoin will come flooding in with much more money than last time.

Most investors don't hate bitcoin. Most never invested in it. Any smart investor will be getting into bitcoin when they see the shift to the next bull market. Investors want to make money. That's it. They will come flooding into Bitcoin on the next run.
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