Sure... Hypocrite.
And who says I'm lying? Szabo is Satoshi.
And who says I'm lying? Szabo is Satoshi.
Proof?
I thought so!
(I hope you understand the definition of 'proof'. It is not the same as 'maybe').
Topic: Nick Szabo aka Satoshi Nakamoto could be the first crypto super billionaire - page 2. (Read 3018 times)
February 15, 2016, 12:19:01 AM
Proof?
I thought so!
(I hope you understand the definition of 'proof'. It is not the same as 'maybe').
February 15, 2016, 12:01:02 AM
Sourgrapes.
A billionaire can't spend all of his money in 100 lifetimes. Petty lying just to steal the lunch money of other idiots on this forum is for low life scum.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/is-there-something-more-important-than-money/
How new Alts / Scamcoins steal your Bitcoins
It seems every day a new alt coin pops up. They are easy to make - most are just clones of coins
that were programmed by someone else and just given a new name, a few graphic tweaks, etc. to make it look new.
It doesn’t take much work - a new scam coin is born. Most of the devs who create these coins have only one intention - to steal bitcoins from others. This explains how they do it.
First they clone an existing coin, make a few tweaks, make a website (which helps scam coins look legit) then they pre-mine a good amount of coins which they will dump later on.
After the coin is up and ready for launch it is Announced on various sites - bitcointalk.org, reddit, etc.
They get the coin listed on an exchange or two and then deposit a portion of their pre-mine coins they already
have saved up. They may make a few Bitcoins after their coin gets listed, but this is not the way they
intend to get your Bitcoins. They let their coin do whatever the market wants for a month or two, maybe try to hype it up a little thru various forums and trollboxes to help legitimize it. They don’t want to pump it as soon as it gets listed on an exchange - this would be obviously suspicious.
Then the day comes where they decide to make their move. They start by buying up the orders on
the exchange(s) to start driving up the price to give the illusion that their coin is starting to take of. This doesn’t cost them anything because they pre-mined the coins for free and the Bitcoins they are using to buy up the orders go back to them because they are buying the scamcoin from themselves anyways. After us innocent, unsuspecting users see that this alt
is moving up a large percent is when we start putting our bitcoin orders in so we don’t miss out on this coin that seems to be really taking off. As soon as enough orders are put in / coins are bought - when the scammer devs are happy with the amount of BTC they have acquired, they dump the rest of their pre-mined coins on the order book to buy
up any lower bitcoin orders still on the books. Congratulations, you have just become a bag holder of a worthless scamcoin that is back to its previous price of next to nothing, the devs have conned you out of your bitcoins and will let their scam coin die to start working on their next scam.
It seems every day a new alt coin pops up. They are easy to make - most are just clones of coins
that were programmed by someone else and just given a new name, a few graphic tweaks, etc. to make it look new.
It doesn’t take much work - a new scam coin is born. Most of the devs who create these coins have only one intention - to steal bitcoins from others. This explains how they do it.
First they clone an existing coin, make a few tweaks, make a website (which helps scam coins look legit) then they pre-mine a good amount of coins which they will dump later on.
After the coin is up and ready for launch it is Announced on various sites - bitcointalk.org, reddit, etc.
They get the coin listed on an exchange or two and then deposit a portion of their pre-mine coins they already
have saved up. They may make a few Bitcoins after their coin gets listed, but this is not the way they
intend to get your Bitcoins. They let their coin do whatever the market wants for a month or two, maybe try to hype it up a little thru various forums and trollboxes to help legitimize it. They don’t want to pump it as soon as it gets listed on an exchange - this would be obviously suspicious.
Then the day comes where they decide to make their move. They start by buying up the orders on
the exchange(s) to start driving up the price to give the illusion that their coin is starting to take of. This doesn’t cost them anything because they pre-mined the coins for free and the Bitcoins they are using to buy up the orders go back to them because they are buying the scamcoin from themselves anyways. After us innocent, unsuspecting users see that this alt
is moving up a large percent is when we start putting our bitcoin orders in so we don’t miss out on this coin that seems to be really taking off. As soon as enough orders are put in / coins are bought - when the scammer devs are happy with the amount of BTC they have acquired, they dump the rest of their pre-mined coins on the order book to buy
up any lower bitcoin orders still on the books. Congratulations, you have just become a bag holder of a worthless scamcoin that is back to its previous price of next to nothing, the devs have conned you out of your bitcoins and will let their scam coin die to start working on their next scam.
Sure... Hypocrite.
And who says I'm lying? Szabo is Satoshi.
February 14, 2016, 11:05:21 PM
Sourgrapes.
A billionaire can't spend all of his money in 100 lifetimes. Petty lying just to steal the lunch money of other idiots on this forum is for low life scum.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/is-there-something-more-important-than-money/
How new Alts / Scamcoins steal your Bitcoins
It seems every day a new alt coin pops up. They are easy to make - most are just clones of coins
that were programmed by someone else and just given a new name, a few graphic tweaks, etc. to make it look new.
It doesn’t take much work - a new scam coin is born. Most of the devs who create these coins have only one intention - to steal bitcoins from others. This explains how they do it.
First they clone an existing coin, make a few tweaks, make a website (which helps scam coins look legit) then they pre-mine a good amount of coins which they will dump later on.
After the coin is up and ready for launch it is Announced on various sites - bitcointalk.org, reddit, etc.
They get the coin listed on an exchange or two and then deposit a portion of their pre-mine coins they already
have saved up. They may make a few Bitcoins after their coin gets listed, but this is not the way they
intend to get your Bitcoins. They let their coin do whatever the market wants for a month or two, maybe try to hype it up a little thru various forums and trollboxes to help legitimize it. They don’t want to pump it as soon as it gets listed on an exchange - this would be obviously suspicious.
Then the day comes where they decide to make their move. They start by buying up the orders on
the exchange(s) to start driving up the price to give the illusion that their coin is starting to take of. This doesn’t cost them anything because they pre-mined the coins for free and the Bitcoins they are using to buy up the orders go back to them because they are buying the scamcoin from themselves anyways. After us innocent, unsuspecting users see that this alt
is moving up a large percent is when we start putting our bitcoin orders in so we don’t miss out on this coin that seems to be really taking off. As soon as enough orders are put in / coins are bought - when the scammer devs are happy with the amount of BTC they have acquired, they dump the rest of their pre-mined coins on the order book to buy
up any lower bitcoin orders still on the books. Congratulations, you have just become a bag holder of a worthless scamcoin that is back to its previous price of next to nothing, the devs have conned you out of your bitcoins and will let their scam coin die to start working on their next scam.
It seems every day a new alt coin pops up. They are easy to make - most are just clones of coins
that were programmed by someone else and just given a new name, a few graphic tweaks, etc. to make it look new.
It doesn’t take much work - a new scam coin is born. Most of the devs who create these coins have only one intention - to steal bitcoins from others. This explains how they do it.
First they clone an existing coin, make a few tweaks, make a website (which helps scam coins look legit) then they pre-mine a good amount of coins which they will dump later on.
After the coin is up and ready for launch it is Announced on various sites - bitcointalk.org, reddit, etc.
They get the coin listed on an exchange or two and then deposit a portion of their pre-mine coins they already
have saved up. They may make a few Bitcoins after their coin gets listed, but this is not the way they
intend to get your Bitcoins. They let their coin do whatever the market wants for a month or two, maybe try to hype it up a little thru various forums and trollboxes to help legitimize it. They don’t want to pump it as soon as it gets listed on an exchange - this would be obviously suspicious.
Then the day comes where they decide to make their move. They start by buying up the orders on
the exchange(s) to start driving up the price to give the illusion that their coin is starting to take of. This doesn’t cost them anything because they pre-mined the coins for free and the Bitcoins they are using to buy up the orders go back to them because they are buying the scamcoin from themselves anyways. After us innocent, unsuspecting users see that this alt
is moving up a large percent is when we start putting our bitcoin orders in so we don’t miss out on this coin that seems to be really taking off. As soon as enough orders are put in / coins are bought - when the scammer devs are happy with the amount of BTC they have acquired, they dump the rest of their pre-mined coins on the order book to buy
up any lower bitcoin orders still on the books. Congratulations, you have just become a bag holder of a worthless scamcoin that is back to its previous price of next to nothing, the devs have conned you out of your bitcoins and will let their scam coin die to start working on their next scam.
February 14, 2016, 09:22:22 AM
What makes you thinking that Satoshi is interested and invested into Ethereum?
I still believe Satoshi will be the first crypto super billionaire because of his combined holdings of BTC and ETH.
He doesn't think. He just wants the ETH price to go up, so he says what ever he thinks will entice naive speculators to follow his implied 11th BongHit Bible commandment, "Thou shall buy more of what ever I am pumping".
Sourgrapes.
February 14, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
What makes you thinking that Satoshi is interested and invested into Ethereum?
I still believe Satoshi will be the first crypto super billionaire because of his combined holdings of BTC and ETH.
He doesn't think. He just wants the ETH price to go up, so he says what ever he thinks will entice naive speculators to follow his implied 11th BongHit Bible commandment, "Thou shall buy more of what ever I am pumping".
February 14, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
What makes you thinking that Satoshi is interested and invested into Ethereum?
I still believe Satoshi will be the first crypto super billionaire because of his combined holdings of BTC and ETH.
February 14, 2016, 05:26:38 AM
Wtf? Where did that come from? Naw. I just pointing out your bs.
^ Wut? Why so mad bro?
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
What BS? That Nick Szabo is one of the top guys to be Satoshi Nakamoto? Or that he could become a crypto super billionaire with his BTC and ETH holdings...
February 14, 2016, 03:01:57 AM
Wtf? Where did that come from? Naw. I just pointing out your bs.
^ Wut? Why so mad bro?
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
February 13, 2016, 10:59:54 PM
There is no way Nick Szabo is/was Satoshi,
1) they are not ideologically aligned, Satoshi would not go on to work for a banking lobby like RC4
2) If he was Satoshi he wouldn't have rage-quit bitcoin like he did.
3) Satoshi is estimated to own over 1,000,000 early bitcoins that have never been moved. If Satoshi really gave up on bitcoin he would have at least sold some of these,
Also back in November 2013 when bitcoin was 1000+ everyone was talking about how Satoshi was the first bitcoin billionaire
https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/bitcoin-mints-its-first-billionaire-satoshi-nakamoto
1) they are not ideologically aligned, Satoshi would not go on to work for a banking lobby like RC4
2) If he was Satoshi he wouldn't have rage-quit bitcoin like he did.
3) Satoshi is estimated to own over 1,000,000 early bitcoins that have never been moved. If Satoshi really gave up on bitcoin he would have at least sold some of these,
Also back in November 2013 when bitcoin was 1000+ everyone was talking about how Satoshi was the first bitcoin billionaire
https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/bitcoin-mints-its-first-billionaire-satoshi-nakamoto
He did those things to truly hide his real identity. Satoshi is really clever.
February 13, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
There is no way Nick Szabo is/was Satoshi,
1) they are not ideologically aligned, Satoshi would not go on to work for a banking lobby like RC4
2) If he was Satoshi he wouldn't have rage-quit bitcoin like he did.
3) Satoshi is estimated to own over 1,000,000 early bitcoins that have never been moved. If Satoshi really gave up on bitcoin he would have at least sold some of these,
Also back in November 2013 when bitcoin was 1000+ everyone was talking about how Satoshi was the first bitcoin billionaire
https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/bitcoin-mints-its-first-billionaire-satoshi-nakamoto
1) they are not ideologically aligned, Satoshi would not go on to work for a banking lobby like RC4
2) If he was Satoshi he wouldn't have rage-quit bitcoin like he did.
3) Satoshi is estimated to own over 1,000,000 early bitcoins that have never been moved. If Satoshi really gave up on bitcoin he would have at least sold some of these,
Also back in November 2013 when bitcoin was 1000+ everyone was talking about how Satoshi was the first bitcoin billionaire
https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/bitcoin-mints-its-first-billionaire-satoshi-nakamoto
February 13, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
^ Wut? Why so mad bro?
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
Edit: And aren't you the guy who scammed the NXT community? I think DecentralizedEconomics mentioned that it's you... Gonna ask him on that one.
February 13, 2016, 12:52:09 PM
You should add a disclaimer to your topics.
Warning. I don't actually know what Im talking about, don't care if Im supporting a legit project, I just want to profit and lick dollar bills off of uncle sams ass.
In fact, I bet YOU are Bob Surplus. You seem to be as arogant as him.
Warning. I don't actually know what Im talking about, don't care if Im supporting a legit project, I just want to profit and lick dollar bills off of uncle sams ass.
In fact, I bet YOU are Bob Surplus. You seem to be as arogant as him.
February 13, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
And why is everyone scared that Nick Szabo = Satoshi Nakamoto? Is it because he supports Ethereum or something?
February 13, 2016, 03:45:21 AM
He's not holding ETH ...
This or someone else is holding ETH for him. He'd be stupid not to own some. Satoshi is a clever guy.
February 12, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
He's not holding ETH ...
February 12, 2016, 10:49:02 AM
I still believe Satoshi will be the first crypto super billionaire because of his combined holdings of BTC and ETH.
February 12, 2016, 08:52:18 AM
He's holding lots of BTC and could be holding lots of ETH. As these two cryptos become a combined market cap in the trillions, Nick Szabo aka Satoshi Nakamoto could be worth billions. Another legendary feat in wealth creation by a possible future titan in a new industry.
Why you so sure that Shabo is Satoshi?
I'm not 100% sure. He's my top choice. And I know I'm not the only one who thinks so...
if that is tru then he will eclipse Bill Gates as a super billionaire,but we still have to prove that szabo is satoshi this is just plain speculation until now they are debate if satoshi is one person or a group of person,we really don't know up to know it's still subject for debate..
February 12, 2016, 08:30:42 AM
I find it hard to believe that Satoshi is 'money grabbing'. He believes in Ethereum.
Szabo apparently believes in taking free money from dumb speculators.
I linked upthread to where Nick Szabo stated he is not Satoshi, yet you continue to promote Ethereum. You are a scammer and I want no association with you.
Here is more evidence of Szabo's lack of technical knowledge:
Genius
Bitcoin implements a [unambiguous via longest chain rule] partial order of transactions and Smart Contracts's need total order. It is not that hard to come up with some models of event ordering [that show that total ordering is required].
This is an interesting post, and shows more the direction, although I don't agree with NS[Nick Szabo] on ethereum.
unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html
This is an interesting post, and shows more the direction, although I don't agree with NS[Nick Szabo] on ethereum.
unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html
This is another essence of my technological point which I have stated previously as follows:
* computers are electronic elements with billions of components. how does such a machine achieve consistent state? see: Shannon and von Neumann and the early days of computing (maybe even Zuse)
* partitions, blocks, DAG's, .... all this stuff generally confuses the most fundamental notions. after investigating this matter for a very long time, I can assure you that almost nobody understands this.
* partitions, blocks, DAG's, .... all this stuff generally confuses the most fundamental notions. after investigating this matter for a very long time, I can assure you that almost nobody understands this.
I can assure you I've understood the point deeply about the impossibility of absolute global consistency in open systems (and a perfectly closed system is useless, i.e. static). Go read my debates with dmbarbour (David Barbour) from circa 2010.
Laymen let me attempt to explain this to you.
Putting Smart Contract data on a global block chain means that as those contracts interact, it is impossible to prove that the order that the contracts are run is commutative and that the contracts will halt.
This is well known because Turing Completeness (the ability to run any logic) requires unbounded recursion. This is the essence of the famous Halting Problem.
All you laymen need to know is that Ethereum and Nick Szabo propose that which is impossible. I told Charles Hoskinson this in Skype when he was contemplating forming Ethereum with Vitalik (I guess before it became a bigger thing with many others involved).
Ethereum responded by inventing gas, so that scripts would halt by failing once their gas is exhausted. This is horrific because it means the state machine is put into an indeterminate state. Indeterminism manifests as errors and chaotic machines that do random actions. On top of that, Vitalik recently admitted in one of the videos I watched that they know Ethereum violates commutativity (and they have no real solution).
WATCH IT BLOW UP FOLKS!
Nick "Satoshi" Szabo has just made another huge blunder by not realizing the above, as enet correctly points out. So please stop telling me Szabo is at Satoshi's level. Not even close.
February 12, 2016, 07:45:02 AM
I find it hard to believe that Satoshi is 'money grabbing'. He believes in Ethereum.
February 12, 2016, 12:56:18 AM
1) Because Nick Szabo spoke at DevCon1, Ethereum's last major conference. How many alt's can say that? There is no other alt that Nick Szabo has gotten this involved in, let alone really cared about.
Because Nick Szabo is ignoring the centralization problem and got paid $millions just like the rest of those "experts" who were
The whoring has reached an all time high wherein dumb ass speculators hand their money over to former astute experts such as Szabo who have prostituted themselves.
Satoshi, you mean Nick Szabo. The guy who contributed to the ethereum white paper and owns 500,000ETH
Yes that's right Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo. The guy who coined the term "smart contracts". The inventor of bitcoin and the major early contributor to the ethereum project.
Just more confirmation that everyone should be getting in to ethereum right now.
Yes that's right Satoshi Nakamoto is Nick Szabo. The guy who coined the term "smart contracts". The inventor of bitcoin and the major early contributor to the ethereum project.
Just more confirmation that everyone should be getting in to ethereum right now.
Yeap. And the price of Eth is rising cause Satoshi is exchaning his premined 1 mil bitcoins to ethereum at poloniex.
When the n00bs start spreading nonsense to support their arguments... (come on guys realize who you are up against here, you can't get away with nonsense when I am around)
Szabo has denied being Satoshi.
And Szabo says "Centralization is insecure", thus I can now conclude (and this is second time I've seen Szabo make a technical error), that Szabo has no clue that Ethereum's planned Casper won't work and will result in centralization.
He is much wiser then Satoshi and his project Etherium is the bitcoin killer.
Yes, and that's why people on here are so butthurt and wanting to bash the project.
Same thing the butthurt Bitcointards said to me in 2013 when I predicted the scalecopalypse that is underway now in Bitcoin. My antagonists from 2013 are now silent as I was proven correct.
Same smell again when I explain the Vitalik is not the god you think he is.
I am more capable than Vitalik in some ways (not in math but in other aspects of software development, strategy, user adoption marketing, etc).
I really suck at putting together a scheme to take $millions from naive speculators. My conscience won't allow me to put the vapor before the ICO.
How many cryptocurrencies have meetups where Nick Szabo is the keynote speaker?
That's right, none, only Ethereum.
and at least one other one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDO09EVFSmg
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