Topic: Nick Szabo, Wei Dai... Who are their employers? (Read 12146 times)

 

Not the father of Bitcoin, but the grandfather of Bitcoin.

Count Szabo is a man who never dies, and who knows everything.

Nicholas Sigismund Szabo (the elder) of Cupertino, CA died in October 2015 in Madison, WI

• California Institute of Technology, bachelor's degree in physics
• Master's degree, Stanford University
• Ph.D. in Computer Science, UC Berkeley, with a minor in Law
• Engineer with several of Silicon Valley's leading companies, including Hewlett-Packard, Lockheed and KLA-Tencor
• Director of Research and Development for Singer-Link, the world's leading developer of aircraft simulators

Two sons, five grandchildren

These 4 people could identify Nick Szabo.
Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Russell Whitaker

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/02/msg01429.html

Party with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite!

    To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
    Subject: Party with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite!
    From: [email protected] (Geoff Dale)
    Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:40:48 -0800
    Sender: [email protected]

         MEET THE NEXTROPIANS: WE ARE HERE AND NOW AMONG YOU
__________________________________________________________________________
Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker

We can't call ourselves Nexus-Lite any more. When Dave Gordon moves in,
we'll have tied the most populous nexus* of all recorded history. The
residents of Nexus-Lite (but getting heavier by the minute), an Extropian
intentional community, invite you to a Nexus Naming Potluck Party. Prizes
for the best name for our Nexus will be awarded.

We are also celebrating Housemistress Romana's appearance in WIRED and
bOING bOING, describing her excellent shareware program, Stego! Thanks for
your excellent articles, Sandy!

Dress for the future, bring a friend. Flip a coin; heads bring food, tails
bring drink.

When: Saturday, March 12, 1994, 7.p.m (after the Cypherpunks meeting, until
an indeterminate time on the following day)

Where: 21090 Grenola Drive, Cupertino CA
(See Obligatory Crude Ascii Map Attached Below)

Tel: (408) 253-1692

*nexus (neks-us) n. A place where extropians** live in comfort for mutual
profit, and work on extra credit assignments without fear of reprisal.

**extropian (eks-tro-pee-an) 1) n. A boundlessly optimistic futurist who
will live forever or die trying. 2) n. Exactly like a human, only much,
much better. 3) n. A champion in the war against entropy. 4) adj. Any way
cool thing an extropian would like.

nextropian (neks-tro-pee-an) 1) n. An extropian who lives in a nexus. 2)
Welcome to the Next Level.

DIRECTIONS:
Nexus-Lite is located at 21090 Grenola Drive in Cupertino.  Geoff Dale's
phone number (in case you get lost) is 408-253-1692.

From 280: Take the Saratoga/Sunnyvale (Or DeAnza Blvd, its all the same
thing) Exit (which is actually the 85 South detour).  Turn north on DeAnza
(aka Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road) at the exit (a left turn if you are coming
from San Francisco; right if you are coming from San Jose).  Turn left at
Homestead; go three blocks to N. Stelling, take left (at the McDonalds).
(Note: North Stelling is called Hollenbeck on the other side of Homestead.
Don't be fooled!)

From 101: Take 85 south and exit at Homestead; turn left onto Homestead.
Proceed several blocks (you will pass a high school); then turn right on N.
Stelling.

Once on N. Stelling:
Right at first light: Greenleaf
First left, Flora Vista
First Right on to Grenola Dr
21090 (mnemonic: anagram for Beverly Hills zip code) is a tannish house on
left with a high roof that slopes toward the street.
Park on the street -- in the direction of traffic, or you may get a $15
ticket. This has happened.

OBLIGATORY CRUDE ASCII MAP (not to scale; up is not north):

     /\
     ||                        ^                  ^
     || (85)                   |                  |
     ||                        |                  |
     ||                        |Hollenbeck        |
    /||                        |                  |
<----++---/ /-- (Homestead) ---+------------------+------------------>
     ||                        |                  |
     ||                        |N.Stelling        |
     ||                        |                  |
     ||                        |            DeAnza|Saratoga/Sunnyvale
     ||                        |                  |
<=========/ /== (280) =======] | [================+==================>
     ||                        |
     ||                        |
     ||                ^       |
     ||                |       |   Greenleaf
     \/     <----------+-------+----------------->
                       |       |
            Flora Vista|       |
                       |       |
                       |       |
            Grenola    |       |
         <-------------+       |
             *=21090   |       |
                       |       |
                       V       V

Excelsior! Forward, onward, upward, outward, and every which way but loose!
Once more into the future dear friends!

their employer is Satoshi Nakamoto, obviously

So now that we know about Nick Szabo, what about Wei Dai? Has anyone seen a picture of him? Where does he work? Is he a different person than the usual suspects?

here is a thread about nick
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-york-times-identifies-nick-szabo-as-satoshi-nakamoto-1061926

i don't know about the other guy

What are the sources for Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006,. I always though his name was another pseudonym especially since you can't find much info about him online even with a name like that. 


Assuming that is him he looks late 40s early 50s to me.

Found this on the web at a dev bitcoin dinner with nick szabo. szabo's face look like the same on the previous photo known from him.

http://s21.postimg.org/lsstp6ilf/szabo.jpg

Conclusively prove who he is and how old he is then, and back up any claims with multiple sources of rock solid evidence. When I checked it out I found multiple contradictory pieces of information which cannot all be correct.

Ok so don't participate in the witch hunt. That's valid. But if you are going to participate it's silly to keep debating exactly who Nick Szabo is and how old he is. That is known.

Well sometimes, one must review all the facts before he starts delving into the unknown. Also, in the first place we aren't supposed to be playing detectives linking different people to Satoshi. He wants to be anonymous, why don't we leave it that way? This entire paradox about Satoshi's true identity is just reoccurring over and over again, only with different words and whatnot.  If we find Satoshi Nakamoto in the flesh, what's next? Worship him as a god or something?

And I assume that water is wet.

We know how old he is!

Sorry to be a dick but people are playing detective on stuff that is already known. Lets look for some unknown stuff. Like who has this guy been working for the past three decades since college? That'd be interesting to learn.

I see that point. Even read the PDF and scoured only to find out that it is not the Nick Szabo which is 85 years of age that we're looking for here. AGain, going back to the picture, the fashion of the beard and the ties dates back to the '90s if I'm not mistaken. So I assume that this Nick Szabo that is being linked to with Satoshi Nakamoto is in his 50s or 60s now.

Really wish you guys would shut the fuck up about the 85 year old Nick Szabo, who is clearly a different person. 'Szabo' returns 12 million Google results. It's not an uncommon name.

The Nick Szabo in question is the one from the New York Times article, who is in his 50's. Enough is known about that Nick Szabo to know who we are talking about: Washington Computer Science undergrad, GWU Law Degree in 2006, has written extensively online for two decades etc.

This guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo
http://szabo.best.vwh.net
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com
https://twitter.com/nickszabo4

Best archive what you pen in this thread, for I've already had a post removed from my thread on the same subject sans being notified via a PM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html?_r=0

This article talks a little about Szabo, more and more things like this will appear over time - but, I doubt we will ever get a real picture of whoever Szabo really is.

If the pic is supposed to be from 1997 then why has the guy on the left got a buttoned down collar on his shirt? I don't remember those being fashionable then, they were popular in the early to mid eighties. Also, the guy on the right has a fairly wide tie which reminds me of ties from the late seventies. Maybe both guys had bought their clothes over ten years earlier, but it's unlikely. Finally, mustaches were right out of fashion in 1997.

Regarding the comments in https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/456922865992863744

-One commenter claims he contacted Nick and Nick denied it was a pic of him. For what that's worth.
-The pic is supposed to be from 1997. Assuming the person pictured there is ~35 years old, that would make him 53 years old now.
-That doesn't match with the age indicated for Satoshi elsewhere, based on a profile he'd created. (Which I think had him 38 years old just a couple years ago.)

In other words, it's all still clear as mud. I think the linguistic analysis is likely among the best evidence for a link that is available, but it's not conclusive. It's pretty clear that this Nick fellow is a phantom though, as much as Satoshi.