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Topic: NIGERIA, LIBERIA TO SHUT DOWN EBOLA HOSPITALS - page 2. (Read 4934 times)

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It only infects through body fluids, meaning that infected body fluids have to enter healthy persons bodies for ebola to spread. Driving the ambulance without police escort isn't that dangerous.
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Who saw this movies a few years ago?

At the time I saw it, it scared the ^%*# out of me.
Looks like its real, this time:

Contagion

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598778/
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I really wish these people who go to Ebola-affected places, would stay there.  Maybe I'm just paranoid from playing Plague Inc., but this is how it starts Tongue
In one way yes, because that would be the most effective way to prevent it from spreading to the rest of the world. But on the other hand, you can't really shut down a whole nation just because a few hundreds have died. The most important thing for governments in the world is to keep their eyes out for signs of infection and quarantine the infected people. One of the problems with many of the countries in western Africa is that people does not have any trust in government and doctors, and therefore they don't seek help themselves, and all the help the government and voluntary doctors wants to give will be rejected.
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I really wish these people who go to Ebola-affected places, would stay there.  Maybe I'm just paranoid from playing Plague Inc., but this is how it starts Tongue
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Reminds me of the bird flu scare a few years ago, basically a scam for Big Pharma to pimp some untested wonder drug on the masses. Not saying it's not serious but I'm always dubious of these health scares...
This is something different. There is no known cure, healthy (except for the ebola infection) people actually die from it. And many of these people die as well. It should be monitored closely to make sure that it doesn't spread, because this is really dangerous.

Ahh right then it does sound pretty nasty, hadn't really paid much attention to the story to be honest.
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The most effective drug against Ebola appears to be Favipiravir, an experimental anti-viral drug with
a broad spectrum, that is currently undergoing phase 3 clinical trials for influenza.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354214000576
Then let's hope that it works on humans as well, and that it doesn't give any horrible side effects!
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The most effective drug against Ebola appears to be Favipiravir, an experimental anti-viral drug with
a broad spectrum, that is currently undergoing phase 3 clinical trials for influenza.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354214000576
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Ebola: Germany accepts infected patient for treatment
As medical services across Europe are on high alert to prevent any risk of Ebola spreading here, a hospital in Germany accepts a patient with the virus



With medical services across Europe on high alert to prevent any risk of the Ebola virus spreading here, a hospital in Germany has agreed to accept an infected patient for treatment.
More than 670 people have died so far in West Africa, as doctors struggle to contain the deadliest outbreak of the virus in history.
The country of Liberia has closed most of its borders to prevent the spread of the disease.
But, amid speculation their patient may be one of the world’s leading Ebola experts, doctors in Germany insist there is no risk of the infection spreading from him.

He will be kept in a special isolation ward behind three separate air locks. The air inside the ward will be kept at lower pressure than outside, so none can escape – even though it is not believed Ebola can be transmitted by air.
Doctors and nurses will wear complete protective bodysuits with their own oxygen supplies whenever in contact with him. The suits will be replaced and burned every three hours.
The extreme precautions are an indication of how feared the Ebola virus is. The disease is spread by direct contact of blood or bodily fluids, including sweat and saliva. It causes massive internal bleeding, and is deadly in up to 90 per cent of cases.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10998367/Ebola-Germany-accepts-infected-patient-for-treatment.html



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EBOLA: DOCTOR QUARANTINED IN CANADA


A Canadian doctor has put himself in quarantine as a precaution after spending weeks in West Africa treating patients with the deadly Ebola virus alongside an American doctor who is now infected, local media said Tuesday.
Azaria Marthyman of Victoria, British Columbia had worked in Liberia, one of four countries hit by an outbreak, with the Christian relief organization Samaritan's Purse.
He has not tested positive for the virus, nor shown any symptoms since returning to Canada on Saturday, but one of his American colleagues, doctor Kent Brantly, is being treated for the disease.
"Azaria is symptom-free right now and there is no chance of being contagious with Ebola if you are not exhibiting symptoms," Melissa Strickland, a spokesperson for Samaritan's Purse, told broadcaster CTV.
Brantly, 33, became infected with Ebola while working with patients in the Liberian capital of Monrovia as he helped treat victims of the worst Ebola outbreak in history.
He "is not doing well. He is still in the early stages of the Ebola infection but having some daily struggles," David McRay, a friend and family medicine doctor in Fort Worth, Texas, told AFP by phone.
"He has requested that I not talk in detail about his symptoms and what he is experiencing, but he is weak and quite ill."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/30/Canadian-doctor-quarantined-after-exposure-to-Ebola

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Ebola outbreak: Victim who sparked fears of global epidemic was on way home to US
Patrick Sawyer could have brought Ebola to US but died in Nigeria while en route to family in Minnesota

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The 40-year-old father-of-three is believed to have contracted the disease from his sister, whom he was caring for without knowing she had Ebola.
Mr Sawyer took two flights to get to Nigeria from Liberia, where he had attended his sister's funeral. The first took him from Monrovia to Lome in Togo, where he boarded a plane to Lagos. He collapsed at the airport on landing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10998222/Ebola-outbreak-Victim-who-sparked-fears-of-global-epidemic-was-on-way-home-to-US.html

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Reminds me of the bird flu scare a few years ago, basically a scam for Big Pharma to pimp some untested wonder drug on the masses. Not saying it's not serious but I'm always dubious of these health scares...
This is something different. There is no known cure, healthy (except for the ebola infection) people actually die from it. And many of these people die as well. It should be monitored closely to make sure that it doesn't spread, because this is really dangerous.
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Reminds me of the bird flu scare a few years ago, basically a scam for Big Pharma to pimp some untested wonder drug on the masses. Not saying it's not serious but I'm always dubious of these health scares...
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60% mortality rate means you're 4 times more likely to not die.  

That makes the virus theoretically 4x more likely to be spread. A 90% mortality rate is ironically a containment benefit.

If you get the treatment early, then there is a 40% chance of survival. But in case the epidemic spreads through the densely populated slums, no one will be there to provide medical treatment and more than 90% of the victims will die. Even now, large numbers of healthcare personnel who are taking care of the Ebola victims are themselves falling ill with the virus. The number of physicians and doctors willing to work with the Ebola patients is limited. Once they get infected with the virus, no one will be there to replace them.
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This is important!
The S#!+ really hits the fan when the health pros stop showing up for work. It is already starting to happen at some hospitals.
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60% mortality rate means you're 4 times more likely to not die.  

That makes the virus theoretically 4x more likely to be spread. A 90% mortality rate is ironically a containment benefit.

If you get the treatment early, then there is a 40% chance of survival. But in case the epidemic spreads through the densely populated slums, no one will be there to provide medical treatment and more than 90% of the victims will die. Even now, large numbers of healthcare personnel who are taking care of the Ebola victims are themselves falling ill with the virus. The number of physicians and doctors willing to work with the Ebola patients is limited. Once they get infected with the virus, no one will be there to replace them.
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60% mortality rate means you're 4 times more likely to not die.  

That makes the virus theoretically 4x more likely to be spread. A 90% mortality rate is ironically a containment benefit.
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Clomiphene provided 90% protection in mice. Of course it's not an approved treatment, because getting a treatment
approved takes lengthy clinical trials. But with Ebola it's not possible to go by the book, the best option is to try clomiphene now
on patients that have a meager chance to survive with only palliative care. And see what happens, IMO it's worth trying.
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The cruel irony is that Ebola is treatable now, but the idiots don't know and keep believing there is no treatment.
25 days ago I saw the CNN interview of Dr. Peter Piot, the dicoverer of the Ebola virus, and after doing some
superficial research I found that there are several chemicals with good activity in vivo against Ebola, the most
promising being clomiphene (others: toremiphene, chloroquine, amodiaquine, ketotifen, diphenoxylate,
amiodarone, dronedarone, verapamil). I sent an e-mail to CNN about this but nothing happened...
There is a lot of confusion about this. It has been noted that some of the fertility / estrogen control drugs seem to provide some prophylaxis in mice. It may lead to something, but right now there is no specific treatment for ebola. Sadly patients receive only palliative care.

Fingers crossed. Let's hope something can be developed in the next 5-10 years.
legendary
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The cruel irony is that Ebola is treatable now, but the idiots don't know and keep believing there is no treatment.
25 days ago I saw the CNN interview of Dr. Peter Piot, the dicoverer of the Ebola virus, and after doing some
superficial research I found that there are several chemicals with good activity in vivo against Ebola, the most
promising being clomiphene (others: toremiphene, chloroquine, amodiaquine, ketotifen, diphenoxylate,
amiodarone, dronedarone, verapamil). I sent an e-mail to CNN about this but nothing happened...
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Garbochock
Awareness song from Liberia, and it sure does make me a bit scared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WOR22-SnY
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