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morantis

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Quote from: james.lent on February 20, 2016, 09:22:28 AM

Quote from: supermoney on February 20, 2016, 09:16:12 AM

Quote from: james.lent on February 20, 2016, 09:02:42 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 08:41:51 AM

But fine, I will stop talking about it now since I am getting threatened to get my account ruined.

No one's threatening you but the way you are backing up and comparing this site to exchanges and casinos only makes it more likely that you're a shill.

My attorney and criminal lawyer stated that a Ponzi scheme is illegal, at least here in Italy, only in the case the scheme is masked behind fake economic promises, bringing life to debts for the only purpose of a fraud attempt.
If the Ponzi scheme is stated and as long as everyone can/read it and accept the terms then it's legit. In order to legalize it in Italy a gambling license (from AAMS) is needed because as any other gambling site it has to be regulated, so this means the operator has to pay taxes to the state.
Since I live in Italy I can actually run transparent Ponzi schemes, however most likely I'd also need to block IP from USA and shit like that because of other countries laws.

Thats true, just like how primedice and other casinos ban countries like america to make deposits hence making them a legal operational business.

Supreme court voted just last year that gambling enterprises were not covered by those statutes under virtual currencies. Do your research guys.

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Quote from: supermoney on February 20, 2016, 09:16:12 AM

Quote from: james.lent on February 20, 2016, 09:02:42 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 08:41:51 AM

But fine, I will stop talking about it now since I am getting threatened to get my account ruined.

No one's threatening you but the way you are backing up and comparing this site to exchanges and casinos only makes it more likely that you're a shill.

My attorney and criminal lawyer stated that a Ponzi scheme is illegal, at least here in Italy, only in the case the scheme is masked behind fake economic promises, bringing life to debts for the only purpose of a fraud attempt.
If the Ponzi scheme is stated and as long as everyone can/read it and accept the terms then it's legit. In order to legalize it in Italy a gambling license (from AAMS) is needed because as any other gambling site it has to be regulated, so this means the operator has to pay taxes to the state.
Since I live in Italy I can actually run transparent Ponzi schemes, however most likely I'd also need to block IP from USA and shit like that because of other countries laws.

Thats true, just like how primedice and other casinos ban countries like america to make deposits hence making them a legal operational business.

supermoney

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Quote from: james.lent on February 20, 2016, 09:02:42 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 08:41:51 AM

But fine, I will stop talking about it now since I am getting threatened to get my account ruined.

No one's threatening you but the way you are backing up and comparing this site to exchanges and casinos only makes it more likely that you're a shill.

My attorney and criminal lawyer stated that a Ponzi scheme is illegal, at least here in Italy, only in the case the scheme is masked behind fake economic promises, bringing life to debts for the only purpose of a fraud attempt.
If the Ponzi scheme is stated and as long as everyone can/read it and accept the terms then it's legit. In order to legalize it in Italy a gambling license (from AAMS) is needed because as any other gambling site it has to be regulated, so this means the operator has to pay taxes to the state.
Since I live in Italy I can actually run transparent Ponzi schemes, however most likely I'd also need to block IP from USA and shit like that because of other countries laws.

nethack

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NINJA FUCK YOUR MOM AND YOUR SISTERS!!!ANSWER ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!

james.lent

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Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 08:41:51 AM

But fine, I will stop talking about it now since I am getting threatened to get my account ruined.

No one's threatening you but the way you are backing up and comparing this site to exchanges and casinos only makes it more likely that you're a shill.

Holdaaja

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Quote from: james.lent on February 20, 2016, 08:30:39 AM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 07:33:00 AM

No I can't see what is wrong with this gambling site.
And seems like you don't know the diffrence between ponzi scam and ponzi game.
This is also provably fair because they use only one address.
And just to be clear I am not saying dice games should get negative trust. I am just saying this shouldn't have it either.

Omg dude. You definitely need to do some read up.

Here's the definition for ponzi : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme ; It doesnt matter if it's a ponzi game or a ponzi scam, a ponzi is a ponzi

And what has using 1 address got to do with being provably fair? Do you even know the meaning of provably fair ? http://www.bitcoincasinos.com/provably-fair/ <- read that

As for ponzi's , the owner can run away with the pot any time (which is going on here almost every other day), not saying that this will (it might), but you got to always expect the worst.

So, stop backing up a ponzi as it'll only lead to the ruining of your account. Now, have a nice day

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation

This game has nothing to do with investing and it doesn't even imply so anywhere.

Definition for provably fair according to your link is:
1) Provably fair means the player can prove the operator didn’t cheat.
2) Provably fair means the shuffle and order of the cards are verifiably random and also that they can’t be changed once the game has started.
3) Provably fair means you know exactly what you are dealing with before you start. Game payout odds are clearly displayed in the payout table.

This fits in all of those requirements. So this is provably fair.

And if we would give negative trust for the possibility to run away with customers money, then every exchange and gambling site should have negative trust here.
And this has been around for over 1 full year now, without running away with customers money.

But fine, I will stop talking about it now since I am getting threatened to get my account ruined.

james.lent

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Quote from: Holdaaja on February 20, 2016, 07:33:00 AM

No I can't see what is wrong with this gambling site.
And seems like you don't know the diffrence between ponzi scam and ponzi game.
This is also provably fair because they use only one address.
And just to be clear I am not saying dice games should get negative trust. I am just saying this shouldn't have it either.

Omg dude. You definitely need to do some read up.

Here's the definition for ponzi : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme ; It doesnt matter if it's a ponzi game or a ponzi scam, a ponzi is a ponzi

And what has using 1 address got to do with being provably fair? Do you even know the meaning of provably fair ? http://www.bitcoincasinos.com/provably-fair/ <- read that

As for ponzi's , the owner can run away with the pot any time (which is going on here almost every other day), not saying that this will (it might), but you got to always expect the worst.

So, stop backing up a ponzi as it'll only lead to the ruining of your account. Now, have a nice day

doublerismygame

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Quote from: nethack on February 20, 2016, 07:48:53 AM

Quote from: meetparthu14 on February 19, 2016, 10:18:02 PM

HI Admin,

I have one doubt before investing in the site.. There are some investments status showing as expired .. may i know what does it mean please.. i saw one as above or below min and max.. apart from that there are lot of.. please calify..

thats mean you cant get any payout from him...you only get payout if hes wallet have enough money to pay your investment.this fuckin ninja dont have any money in hes wallet!stay away from this fuckin sites..youll never get payment from him! Angry

You really don't understand this game Jon Snow.

nethack

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Quote from: meetparthu14 on February 19, 2016, 10:18:02 PM

HI Admin,

I have one doubt before investing in the site.. There are some investments status showing as expired .. may i know what does it mean please.. i saw one as above or below min and max.. apart from that there are lot of.. please calify..

thats mean you cant get any payout from him...you only get payout if hes wallet have enough money to pay your investment.this fuckin ninja dont have any money in hes wallet!stay away from this fuckin sites..youll never get payment from him! Angry

Holdaaja

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Quote from: james.lent on February 19, 2016, 08:37:49 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 06:37:10 PM

Quote from: karthus25 on February 19, 2016, 05:46:04 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 04:18:38 PM

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

It's because people get pist since they think this is like a doubler where payout is automatic, which is not.

There is also people at primedice thread almost daily accusing them for cheating and asking for money backs because they are mad when they lose.
So where is their negative feedback? Right, they don't have one and neither should this because this does not imply anywhere that this would be guaranteed, investment or anything like that.

You've been here since November 30, 2013 and you dont know the difference between a ponzi and a provably fair dice site?

No I can't see what is wrong with this gambling site.
And seems like you don't know the diffrence between ponzi scam and ponzi game.
This is also provably fair because they use only one address.
And just to be clear I am not saying dice games should get negative trust. I am just saying this shouldn't have it either.

Considerable Coin

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Just made it jaja ! Still unsure about 24 hrs thing but, that's 3 payouts for me now . L00king g00d! Grin

karthus25

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Quote from: meetparthu14 on February 19, 2016, 10:18:02 PM

HI Admin,

I have one doubt before investing in the site.. There are some investments status showing as expired .. may i know what does it mean please.. i saw one as above or below min and max.. apart from that there are lot of.. please calify..

If you bothered to read how this game works, if a timer reaches 00:00 and the wallet didn't have enough to pay for it before that, then it becomes expired and doesn't receive payment. The money that was deposited then gets used for the next payment as long as there is enough, if not then it still accumulates until it can pay for the next payment unless that payment reaches 00:00 (expired) which then means that person "lost" and got no payment because the users allowed for it to expire without investing to pay for it.

doublerismygame

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Quote from: meetparthu14 on February 19, 2016, 10:18:02 PM

HI Admin,

I have one doubt before investing in the site.. There are some investments status showing as expired .. may i know what does it mean please.. i saw one as above or below min and max.. apart from that there are lot of.. please calify..

They are expired because their timer reached 00:00:00 and the wallet is not sufficient to pay them because no investor entered or should I say that they let it expired because it is huge amount. Below min or above max means that the investor sent the wrong amount which should be 0.001-1 BTC.
Read the FAQ on the page for better understanding.

meetparthu14

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HI Admin,

I have one doubt before investing in the site.. There are some investments status showing as expired .. may i know what does it mean please.. i saw one as above or below min and max.. apart from that there are lot of.. please calify..

james.lent

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Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 06:37:10 PM

Quote from: karthus25 on February 19, 2016, 05:46:04 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 04:18:38 PM

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

It's because people get pist since they think this is like a doubler where payout is automatic, which is not.

There is also people at primedice thread almost daily accusing them for cheating and asking for money backs because they are mad when they lose.
So where is their negative feedback? Right, they don't have one and neither should this because this does not imply anywhere that this would be guaranteed, investment or anything like that.

You've been here since November 30, 2013 and you dont know the difference between a ponzi and a provably fair dice site?

f4wz

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thx..I receive my payment.

Holdaaja

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Quote from: karthus25 on February 19, 2016, 05:46:04 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 04:18:38 PM

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

It's because people get pist since they think this is like a doubler where payout is automatic, which is not.

There is also people at primedice thread almost daily accusing them for cheating and asking for money backs because they are mad when they lose.
So where is their negative feedback? Right, they don't have one and neither should this because this does not imply anywhere that this would be guaranteed, investment or anything like that.

DoublerHunter

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Quote from: karthus25 on February 19, 2016, 05:46:04 PM

Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 04:18:38 PM

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

It's because people get pist since they think this is like a doubler where payout is automatic, which is not.

Trust abuser.
because their rank is high.

karthus25

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Quote from: Holdaaja on February 19, 2016, 04:18:38 PM

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

It's because people get pist since they think this is like a doubler where payout is automatic, which is not.

Holdaaja

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Activity: 1274

Merit: 1000

It is ridiculous that owner of this gambling site has negative trust.

It is pure abuse of the trust system to give negative trust for this as this is very clearly a gambling game and they don't claim anywhere that they would invest users money to make profit or that there would be guaranteed profit so this is not a fraudulent investment operation which is definition of ponzi scam.

They could as well be red trusting Stunna because people can lose money with dice game too...

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