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newbie
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August 21, 2014, 02:41:03 AM
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Scrypt and X11 have now been added to the cloud.  We're still invite only for a few more weeks while we sort out deployment environment, so please send a PM for an invite.  With the recent drop in BTC prices, you can lease an Antminer S3 for 6 months for just under $750USD. 

Currently available: 9 Antminer S3s
                           1-2 Jupiter based KNC rigs (these get a lot of rentals)
                           1 A1 based scrypt miner
                           1 6 card 290x X11 miner

100% uptime guarantee, any downtime will be compensated with additional hashes/lease extension. 

We will be exhibiting at Inside Bitcoins in Vegas this October 6-7, please come by the booth and say hi and register to win some cool prizes.

Be carefuls with ninjas!

Still has not backed up SLA on how it sounded like bitmain did it.  Ignored question since it is ninjas backing i think stills!   

Looks at name of posts he changed its!  Now it sounds like it was a beta!!  It was a lease that sounded like a buy i think still!

Tricky Ninja!  Whole site look like one guy did with ruby or something, not impress! 

It took days on somethings that was said to be automatic! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8457564   How is that 100 percent?  100 percent SLA very differents then paying for downtime.
hero member
Activity: 630
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Scrypt and X11 have now been added to the cloud.  We're still invite only for a few more weeks while we sort out deployment environment, so please send a PM for an invite.  With the recent drop in BTC prices, you can lease an Antminer S3 for 6 months for just under $750USD. 

Currently available: 9 Antminer S3s
                           1-2 Jupiter based KNC rigs (these get a lot of rentals)
                           1 A1 based scrypt miner
                           1 6 card 290x X11 miner

100% uptime guarantee, any downtime will be compensated with additional hashes/lease extension. 

We will be exhibiting at Inside Bitcoins in Vegas this October 6-7, please come by the booth and say hi and register to win some cool prizes.
newbie
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Notes topics name was changed it seems.  Now at least title is less scammy with not saying group buy on a lease....

Now if only woulds backup claims instead of ignore buttons!!
hero member
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Current lease prices during the limited beta:

AntMiner S3 - 440GH Nominal
One day - 13.15 mBTC ($7.71).
One week - 92.03 mBTC ($53.97).
Two weeks - 173.33 mBTC ($101.65).
One month -  336.97 mBTC ($197.62).
Six months - 1412.96 mBTC ($828.64).

Our prices are very aggressive compared to other hosted mining services, plus these one-time-payment leases don't incur further power and maintenance fees as nearly all other cloud mining service providers charge.  We're looking for more beta testers, invite only still opening to the but opening to the public soon. Enjoy these undermarket prices while we test out our cloud app. 


Coming Soon: Scrypt, X11, X13   
newbie
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We're in a totally different datacenter where the guys totally understand Bitcoin and are out to make us successful rather than sabotage us.  We've learned a lot of valuable lessons from our first datacenter nightmare, and won't be repeating the same mistakes.

The biggest change is we aren't relying on bitcoin earnings to pay hosting fees; hosting costs are built-in to the up-front pricing so we won't run into the issue of coming up short to pay the power bills.


You can probably find somebody to run it in an old dirty warehouse for $50/mo, but you won't get the same performance, stability, or latency to the big pools as you will get from being hosted in a professional datacenter.

Is that the same datacenter that f*cked you over and got the first few groupbuy's terminated? Or is this a new one? And in what sense is the situation different then before regarding getting f*cked over?

Flep I'm glad you see it toos.   From what i sees they using someone elses data center, they don't own it.  Without 2 data centers in different region's it justs not possible to guarantee 100 percent up time.  Then to word it to sound like Bitmain backed it.   Theys use Bitmain S3's on SOME of the cloud.   All they have is bulk buyers quick replacement parts me thinks.

They made this sounds like a buy when it's a lease.  You can pay for a S3 have it hosted in many of hosters on board, and pay less.  This company charges more for a sneaky sounding buy that is a lease.  So they solved hosting fee by having you pays all upfront and pay for something you will NEVER owns.  Then they lease S3 again most likely.

They ignored me for asking for proof of Bitmain backing SLA not just being fast parts in RMA.  And question deception on words they no likes.

No answers here I see besides they found way to word trickys, and make customer pay for something they never owns all up front.
hero member
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We're in a totally different datacenter where the guys totally understand Bitcoin and are out to make us successful rather than sabotage us.  We've learned a lot of valuable lessons from our first datacenter nightmare, and won't be repeating the same mistakes.

The biggest change is we aren't relying on bitcoin earnings to pay hosting fees; hosting costs are built-in to the up-front pricing so we won't run into the issue of coming up short to pay the power bills.


You can probably find somebody to run it in an old dirty warehouse for $50/mo, but you won't get the same performance, stability, or latency to the big pools as you will get from being hosted in a professional datacenter.

Is that the same datacenter that f*cked you over and got the first few groupbuy's terminated? Or is this a new one? And in what sense is the situation different then before regarding getting f*cked over?
tmu
newbie
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Tested lease and worked like charm  Smiley
Price for daily lease is not good, but longer (6months) seems better.
Ability to direct mining power to pool of your choose is great.
Maybe if smaller contracts and better prices.
legendary
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You can probably find somebody to run it in an old dirty warehouse for $50/mo, but you won't get the same performance, stability, or latency to the big pools as you will get from being hosted in a professional datacenter.

Is that the same datacenter that f*cked you over and got the first few groupbuy's terminated? Or is this a new one? And in what sense is the situation different then before regarding getting f*cked over?
newbie
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Bitmain's fast turn and our priority placement is part of what enables us to make our zero downtime guarantee.  'Buy' is in the title because this is being offered pre-release to members of this forum in a 'Group Buy' format.  Anyhow you are critical enough that I would love to send you an invite so you can try out our services, please PM me your email address.  We're trying to get things 100% solid before we open it up to the masses.

Is just ask questions you evade.  You sell a service not a miner.  How this S3 buy?

You skipped the question Also are you agree that Bitmain is not backing zero downtime as you mades it sound?  But you are backing zero downtime claim they do not guarantee your serveries?

I asks again do you admit Bitmain does not have back your SLA?  That what you have is prioritys any big buyer has?  It your SLA Bitmain does not back it.

You sures do evade questions like a ninja.  And the S3 go away likes ninja to after 6 month to you!
hero member
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Bitmain's fast turn and our priority placement is part of what enables us to make our zero downtime guarantee.  'Buy' is in the title because this is being offered pre-release to members of this forum in a 'Group Buy' format.  Anyhow you are critical enough that I would love to send you an invite so you can try out our services, please PM me your email address.  We're trying to get things 100% solid before we open it up to the masses.
newbie
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We have the excess capacity, backup facilities, and quick turn around on RMAs from Bitmain to meet our zero downtime guarantee on our cloud mining. It's a turn-key mine-right-away solution at a competitive price, with no long-term obligations. Sure, there's a premium for this kind of experience, but we are trying to bring that premium down to a level where ROI is actually attainable with our offering.  Shop around for cloud hashes, they are expensive.

If you would rather own the hardware, buy one and ship it to us (or have Bitmain throw it on our next inbound pallet) and we can provide a hosting solution at $65/mo per S3 month-to-month. Sounds cheaper right? If you end up needing an RMA, you'll be looking at about a 5-day turn around of lost mining. And you don't start mining until your miner arrives, in 10 days or so?  How much are you losing out on by not mining now?

You can probably find somebody to run it in an old dirty warehouse for $50/mo, but you won't get the same performance, stability, or latency to the big pools as you will get from being hosted in a professional datacenter. And you might end up never seeing it again when they decide to pull a runner. There's a couple of threads around here so full of sock puppets that you just know how it's going to end. Or you could go with a 5 year contract on a service that runs it's coins through a mixer and has no evidence of mining (one of these is facing imminent collapse by my calculations).

Do you agree to changing title as this threads misleads peoples?  Make sure to put LEASE not buy.

Also are you agree that Bitmain is not backing zero downtime as you mades it sound?  But you are backing zero downtime claim they do not guarantee your serveries?
hero member
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We have the excess capacity, backup facilities, and quick turn around on RMAs from Bitmain to meet our zero downtime guarantee on our cloud mining. It's a turn-key mine-right-away solution at a competitive price, with no long-term obligations. Sure, there's a premium for this kind of experience, but we are trying to bring that premium down to a level where ROI is actually attainable with our offering.  Shop around for cloud hashes, they are expensive.

If you would rather own the hardware, buy one and ship it to us (or have Bitmain throw it on our next inbound pallet) and we can provide a hosting solution at $65/mo per S3 month-to-month. Sounds cheaper right? If you end up needing an RMA, you'll be looking at about a 5-day turn around of lost mining. And you don't start mining until your miner arrives, in 10 days or so?  How much are you losing out on by not mining now?

You can probably find somebody to run it in an old dirty warehouse for $50/mo, but you won't get the same performance, stability, or latency to the big pools as you will get from being hosted in a professional datacenter. And you might end up never seeing it again when they decide to pull a runner. There's a couple of threads around here so full of sock puppets that you just know how it's going to end. Or you could go with a 5 year contract on a service that runs it's coins through a mixer and has no evidence of mining (one of these is facing imminent collapse by my calculations).
newbie
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Our NinjaCloud Bitcoin Mining Cloud is proudly powered by Bitmain Antminer hardware. We have a priority service arrangement with Bitmain to guarantee ZERO DOWNTIME mining.  Hosting for the NinjaCloud Bitcoin Mining Cloud is provided by NinjaColo, in a proper secure datacenter facility in Phoenix, AZ.

Excited at first read, but as go through it worse it looks.  You ninja the S3's after 6 months where I don't own miner and guarantee I don't see anything special.  Bitmain gave you standard priority on replacement that big buyers get, not a zero downtime guarantee I thinks.  Please show proof of who is backing zero downtime.  

Title is MISLEADING and so is other information please put "hosted lease" not buy!
newbie
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I am looking into buying mining gear.  I was scared reading "lease".  Does this mean for 850 you get 6 month's of use but after that the NinjaCloud company keeps miner?

Is this a buy or a lease on S3's?  Who keeps it at end?

It's a lease, so NinjaColo keeps ownership.  You can also buy miners, ship them to us, and we will provide hosting (and you'll use the same NinjaCloud interface to manage the miners).

In other threads I can buy miners for less and have it hosted for over 6 months for what you charge for a "lease"?  What would be the advantage of paying more for a lease and in the end I own nothing?
hero member
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I am looking into buying mining gear.  I was scared reading "lease".  Does this mean for 850 you get 6 month's of use but after that the NinjaCloud company keeps miner?

Is this a buy or a lease on S3's?  Who keeps it at end?

It's a lease, so NinjaColo keeps ownership.  You can also buy miners, ship them to us, and we will provide hosting (and you'll use the same NinjaCloud interface to manage the miners).
newbie
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I am looking into buying mining gear.  I was scared reading "lease".  Does this mean for 850 you get 6 month's of use but after that the NinjaCloud company keeps miner?

Is this a buy or a lease on S3's?  Who keeps it at end?
hero member
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Polyrhachis alphena, Oecophylla crassinod, Acropyga nipponensis = Species of Ants
Ganymede, Themisto, Callisto = Moons of Jupiter

Thanks for finding the first bug, basically if a password isn't set for the pool it won't add to the miner Smiley

Hmmm... Would it be possible to make it so that more than one person can fund an S3? Or could we use an escrow to distribute the earnings?

We have some smaller miners also available, and can split up miners into multiple virtual miners (and are adding more cautiously throughout the beta). We're encouraging active participation in mining, so rather than pool funds and make one person responsible, we'd rather that individuals control their own hashes.



Would it be possible for me to invest a little in some smaller miners? What smaller miners do you have?

Yep. I thought it was that, and it was that. No problem.
BTW, why do you have such... weird names for your miners?

Yeah, that's weird, why not just do something like Antminer S3 1, Antminer S3 2, etc.
I guess that's because you're a ninja (< lol). Next feature I need is to extend current leases.
hero member
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Polyrhachis alphena, Oecophylla crassinod, Acropyga nipponensis = Species of Ants
Ganymede, Themisto, Callisto = Moons of Jupiter

Thanks for finding the first bug, basically if a password isn't set for the pool it won't add to the miner Smiley

Hmmm... Would it be possible to make it so that more than one person can fund an S3? Or could we use an escrow to distribute the earnings?

We have some smaller miners also available, and can split up miners into multiple virtual miners (and are adding more cautiously throughout the beta). We're encouraging active participation in mining, so rather than pool funds and make one person responsible, we'd rather that individuals control their own hashes.



Would it be possible for me to invest a little in some smaller miners? What smaller miners do you have?

Yep. I thought it was that, and it was that. No problem.
BTW, why do you have such... weird names for your miners?
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Thanks for finding the first bug, basically if a password isn't set for the pool it won't add to the miner Smiley

Hmmm... Would it be possible to make it so that more than one person can fund an S3? Or could we use an escrow to distribute the earnings?

We have some smaller miners also available, and can split up miners into multiple virtual miners (and are adding more cautiously throughout the beta). We're encouraging active participation in mining, so rather than pool funds and make one person responsible, we'd rather that individuals control their own hashes.



Would it be possible for me to invest a little in some smaller miners? What smaller miners do you have?

Yep. I thought it was that, and it was that. No problem.
BTW, why do you have such... weird names for your miners?
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Thanks for finding the first bug, basically if a password isn't set for the pool it won't add to the miner Smiley

Hmmm... Would it be possible to make it so that more than one person can fund an S3? Or could we use an escrow to distribute the earnings?

We have some smaller miners also available, and can split up miners into multiple virtual miners (and are adding more cautiously throughout the beta). We're encouraging active participation in mining, so rather than pool funds and make one person responsible, we'd rather that individuals control their own hashes.



Would it be possible for me to invest a little in some smaller miners? What smaller miners do you have?
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