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Calvin,

You/nitrogen just don't get it.

First, if you thought you were robbed and went to the police and they told you thanks for letting us know I'll make sure to pass it through the appropriate channels repeatedly without any further response, what would you think? Patronizing and empathy doesn't do us any good and only makes things worse.

Second, even if nitrogen doesn't care about players making allegations against here nitrogen still doewn't seem to understand what it takes to grow their poker room. The market demands fairness and transparency. It is mindbogglingly stupid that nitrogen doesn't have hand histories - for its own benefit.

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Nitrogen Sports Support at 12:53pm on January 10, 2016
Hey Evildrum,

I'm very sorry to say that we don't offer any kind of audits on hands played. I can however submit this to our poker team and something to consider being added in the future.
If you have any other questions or concerns please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks!
Stefanie

So I presume being almost June we could have had something in place by now.

Hey guys,

Unfortunately there's no update to share at this moment regarding the hand history feature in poker. I'll be sure to update you both personally once the news becomes available.

Thanks,
Calvin
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Nitrogen Sports Support at 12:53pm on January 10, 2016
Hey Evildrum,

I'm very sorry to say that we don't offer any kind of audits on hands played. I can however submit this to our poker team and something to consider being added in the future.
If you have any other questions or concerns please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks!
Stefanie

So I presume being almost June we could have had something in place by now.
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Calvin,

Nobody cares that you say you have spoken to the poker team repeatedly. No one knows if this is true, who you are, or whether this is an account shared by multiple people associated with Nitrogen. No one wants to hear excuses about why you can't can't get a response from the poker team.

The simple fact remains that hand histories are a necessary feature for an online poker site to be trustworthy. Nitrogen doesn't provide this feature and Nitrogen has given no indication that this is going to change. As I write previously this means you are either incompetent or dishonest. Furthermore, given how slick the site is, it really makes me wonder about the integrity of the people running the site.

There are only so many times dumb players can bet out and hit 1 outers and runner, runner hands before it stops being reasonable. I and others effectively feel that we have been cheated.

How can you say you don't have a reason from the poker team for why hand histories aren't a feature on the site? Nitrogen has been around for years. Are you really saying you haven't considered the hand histories feature until now?

Whether it is you or others at Nitrogen, you have to stop making excuses about hand histories if you want players to trust your site. If you are truly serious about being a player in the online poker space this should be the number one priority. The fact that it doesn't seem to be a priority at all reflects very poorly on Nitrogen.

A site that can add a feature of player standings for a month,surely can add a feature of hand histories.
You most likely have all the needed features to implement this already.

I know variance but the way your poker plays out is not legit.

1. Way to many split pot hands (AKvsAK) to enduce rake and leave both players with less
2. Way to many runner runner hands
3. Way to many players calling allin and catching when they had complete air
4. Cheating still goes unchecked

By allowing us hand histories we could help catch these cheaters,you would gain the upper hand over the competition and you would put to sleep the people like myself that think you are running a rigged game.

Another thing yesterdays 100 hands had 52 players in it and I could clearly see some fishy hand playing.
Either bump up the prize or bust these cheaters so we are not again being robbed.

Hey guys,

Thanks again for your feedback! I have definitely heard your thoughts regarding hand histories in poker and I will continue to make sure it gets passed through the appropriate channels.

Thanks,
Calvin

Calvin,

You/nitrogen just don't get it.

First, if you thought you were robbed and went to the police and they told you thanks for letting us know I'll make sure to pass it through the appropriate channels repeatedly without any further response, what would you think? Patronizing and empathy doesn't do us any good and only makes things worse.

Second, even if nitrogen doesn't care about players making allegations against here nitrogen still doewn't seem to understand what it takes to grow their poker room. The market demands fairness and transparency. It is mindbogglingly stupid that nitrogen doesn't have hand histories - for its own benefit.
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Calvin,

Nobody cares that you say you have spoken to the poker team repeatedly. No one knows if this is true, who you are, or whether this is an account shared by multiple people associated with Nitrogen. No one wants to hear excuses about why you can't can't get a response from the poker team.

The simple fact remains that hand histories are a necessary feature for an online poker site to be trustworthy. Nitrogen doesn't provide this feature and Nitrogen has given no indication that this is going to change. As I write previously this means you are either incompetent or dishonest. Furthermore, given how slick the site is, it really makes me wonder about the integrity of the people running the site.

There are only so many times dumb players can bet out and hit 1 outers and runner, runner hands before it stops being reasonable. I and others effectively feel that we have been cheated.

How can you say you don't have a reason from the poker team for why hand histories aren't a feature on the site? Nitrogen has been around for years. Are you really saying you haven't considered the hand histories feature until now?

Whether it is you or others at Nitrogen, you have to stop making excuses about hand histories if you want players to trust your site. If you are truly serious about being a player in the online poker space this should be the number one priority. The fact that it doesn't seem to be a priority at all reflects very poorly on Nitrogen.

A site that can add a feature of player standings for a month,surely can add a feature of hand histories.
You most likely have all the needed features to implement this already.

I know variance but the way your poker plays out is not legit.

1. Way to many split pot hands (AKvsAK) to enduce rake and leave both players with less
2. Way to many runner runner hands
3. Way to many players calling allin and catching when they had complete air
4. Cheating still goes unchecked

By allowing us hand histories we could help catch these cheaters,you would gain the upper hand over the competition and you would put to sleep the people like myself that think you are running a rigged game.

Another thing yesterdays 100 hands had 52 players in it and I could clearly see some fishy hand playing.
Either bump up the prize or bust these cheaters so we are not again being robbed.

Hey guys,

Thanks again for your feedback! I have definitely heard your thoughts regarding hand histories in poker and I will continue to make sure it gets passed through the appropriate channels.

Thanks,
Calvin
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A site that can add a feature of player standings for a month,surely can add a feature of hand histories.
You most likely have all the needed features to implement this already.

I know variance but the way your poker plays out is not legit.

1. Way to many split pot hands (AKvsAK) to enduce rake and leave both players with less
2. Way to many runner runner hands
3. Way to many players calling allin and catching when they had complete air
4. Cheating still goes unchecked

By allowing us hand histories we could help catch these cheaters,you would gain the upper hand over the competition and you would put to sleep the people like myself that think you are running a rigged game.

Another thing yesterdays 100 hands had 52 players in it and I could clearly see some fishy hand playing.
Either bump up the prize or bust these cheaters so we are not again being robbed.
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My first post so flame away but what happens on this site is insane. I will never play poker on this fucking site again. I have played many years of online poker and never witnessed anything like how the cards run on this site. Unfortunately Nitrogen has such shit software that it doesn't keep track of hand histories to properly document for public revision. Fucking scam site. They can take their provably fair claim and shove it up their ass. Recording hand history is fucking basic. Only a scam site won't get it done. This is not a new site. Get your shit together.

Have asked for hand histories as well in the past and I think there is a good reason for why they will not allow such data to be looked at.
When I first started playing I noticed the rng runs a lot different than what I am used to and rewards players that call to the river with a ace hoping to hit or the guy that calls a allin with a flush draw and hits. Its not variance and I can confirm there is something wrong with how the site plays but I do not think poker is their main aspect,therefore they give it less attention.
But here is the other problem that is more bitcoin related is most of these sites have rng that run in a way to create split pots or donk play to increase rake. What I am waiting for is some one to actually go through a audit to show they are legit like the non poker sites do.

Till then we can either live with it and alter game play or refuse to play on these sites. Right now I play them because I lack patience for a reputable site to come in. Once that does happen I will sit back and watch the bitcoin all flow to that site and dry up all these half ass sites.

Was around when Nitro could not get more than 9 players to come through and talked the site up and in turn I thought I would be able to keep my affiliate payments as well but they do not give a shit about that aspect either,its just pure greed.


What I am having trouble understanding is how hard it would be to implement hand history audits for players that want it! What are the crack collusion hunters doing if they can not review hands for cheating to catch these guys?
If they are able to review the hands easily it should not be hard to add a feature for the players to look at their hands.
Will start recording my sessions because I need to know why players are calling with air and hitting runner runner repeatedly,either they are house players or the game has a bug that makes this more frequent.

Add hand histories,I will not let this drop!

Hey guys,

I appreciate the enthusiasm and your willingness to share suggestions. I do agree that this feature would increase the transparency of Nitrogen's poker room and even provide a good tool for players to reevaluate their tough losses. As I have mentioned previously, your suggestions have been passed on to the poker team who I have spoken with repeatedly regarding this feature.

Unfortunately I'm not able to make any promises about this feature yet, but I will work on receiving an answer back asap.

Thanks!
Calvin

Calvin,

Nobody cares that you say you have spoken to the poker team repeatedly. No one knows if this is true, who you are, or whether this is an account shared by multiple people associated with Nitrogen. No one wants to hear excuses about why you can't can't get a response from the poker team.

The simple fact remains that hand histories are a necessary feature for an online poker site to be trustworthy. Nitrogen doesn't provide this feature and Nitrogen has given no indication that this is going to change. As I write previously this means you are either incompetent or dishonest. Furthermore, given how slick the site is, it really makes me wonder about the integrity of the people running the site.

There are only so many times dumb players can bet out and hit 1 outers and runner, runner hands before it stops being reasonable. I and others effectively feel that we have been cheated.

How can you say you don't have a reason from the poker team for why hand histories aren't a feature on the site? Nitrogen has been around for years. Are you really saying you haven't considered the hand histories feature until now?

Whether it is you or others at Nitrogen, you have to stop making excuses about hand histories if you want players to trust your site. If you are truly serious about being a player in the online poker space this should be the number one priority. The fact that it doesn't seem to be a priority at all reflects very poorly on Nitrogen.
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My first post so flame away but what happens on this site is insane. I will never play poker on this fucking site again. I have played many years of online poker and never witnessed anything like how the cards run on this site. Unfortunately Nitrogen has such shit software that it doesn't keep track of hand histories to properly document for public revision. Fucking scam site. They can take their provably fair claim and shove it up their ass. Recording hand history is fucking basic. Only a scam site won't get it done. This is not a new site. Get your shit together.

Have asked for hand histories as well in the past and I think there is a good reason for why they will not allow such data to be looked at.
When I first started playing I noticed the rng runs a lot different than what I am used to and rewards players that call to the river with a ace hoping to hit or the guy that calls a allin with a flush draw and hits. Its not variance and I can confirm there is something wrong with how the site plays but I do not think poker is their main aspect,therefore they give it less attention.
But here is the other problem that is more bitcoin related is most of these sites have rng that run in a way to create split pots or donk play to increase rake. What I am waiting for is some one to actually go through a audit to show they are legit like the non poker sites do.

Till then we can either live with it and alter game play or refuse to play on these sites. Right now I play them because I lack patience for a reputable site to come in. Once that does happen I will sit back and watch the bitcoin all flow to that site and dry up all these half ass sites.

Was around when Nitro could not get more than 9 players to come through and talked the site up and in turn I thought I would be able to keep my affiliate payments as well but they do not give a shit about that aspect either,its just pure greed.


What I am having trouble understanding is how hard it would be to implement hand history audits for players that want it! What are the crack collusion hunters doing if they can not review hands for cheating to catch these guys?
If they are able to review the hands easily it should not be hard to add a feature for the players to look at their hands.
Will start recording my sessions because I need to know why players are calling with air and hitting runner runner repeatedly,either they are house players or the game has a bug that makes this more frequent.

Add hand histories,I will not let this drop!

Hey guys,

I appreciate the enthusiasm and your willingness to share suggestions. I do agree that this feature would increase the transparency of Nitrogen's poker room and even provide a good tool for players to reevaluate their tough losses. As I have mentioned previously, your suggestions have been passed on to the poker team who I have spoken with repeatedly regarding this feature.

Unfortunately I'm not able to make any promises about this feature yet, but I will work on receiving an answer back asap.

Thanks!
Calvin
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What I am having trouble understanding is how hard it would be to implement hand history audits for players that want it! What are the crack collusion hunters doing if they can not review hands for cheating to catch these guys?
If they are able to review the hands easily it should not be hard to add a feature for the players to look at their hands.
Will start recording my sessions because I need to know why players are calling with air and hitting runner runner repeatedly,either they are house players or the game has a bug that makes this more frequent.

Add hand histories,I will not let this drop!
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My first post so flame away but what happens on this site is insane. I will never play poker on this fucking site again. I have played many years of online poker and never witnessed anything like how the cards run on this site. Unfortunately Nitrogen has such shit software that it doesn't keep track of hand histories to properly document for public revision. Fucking scam site. They can take their provably fair claim and shove it up their ass. Recording hand history is fucking basic. Only a scam site won't get it done. This is not a new site. Get your shit together.

Have asked for hand histories as well in the past and I think there is a good reason for why they will not allow such data to be looked at.
When I first started playing I noticed the rng runs a lot different than what I am used to and rewards players that call to the river with a ace hoping to hit or the guy that calls a allin with a flush draw and hits. Its not variance and I can confirm there is something wrong with how the site plays but I do not think poker is their main aspect,therefore they give it less attention.
But here is the other problem that is more bitcoin related is most of these sites have rng that run in a way to create split pots or donk play to increase rake. What I am waiting for is some one to actually go through a audit to show they are legit like the non poker sites do.

Till then we can either live with it and alter game play or refuse to play on these sites. Right now I play them because I lack patience for a reputable site to come in. Once that does happen I will sit back and watch the bitcoin all flow to that site and dry up all these half ass sites.

Was around when Nitro could not get more than 9 players to come through and talked the site up and in turn I thought I would be able to keep my affiliate payments as well but they do not give a shit about that aspect either,its just pure greed.

Hey Evildrum, Statsmajor

I'm sorry to hear that you guys aren't happy with the inability to track you hand-histories in poker. We really appreciate your enthusiasm and I've passed all your feedback on to the poker team.

If you'd like to email me your thoughts, I'd also be happy to chat with you! You can reach me directly at [email protected]

Thanks!
Calvin

So it has now been 11 days since Calvin passed the feedback to the poker team and other than Nitroscam calling me classless there has been no update on tracking hand histories. Calvin has no problem coming on here almost daily trying to encourage users to bet but any word about resolving a critical issue in transparency and fairness on the site has not made it into the posts.

Nitroscam, at best you guys are not competent to run an online poker site and at worst you are dishonest thieves. Either way you have no business in the online poker space and players should be forewarned before playing on the site.
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Did you guys change the way the tracker keeps track of hands?
I recall you used to be able to get started on the 100 hands as soon as the tourney started,now it looks like it does not track till the tourney is over.
Is this correct that hands during the tourney no longer count,just curious,no big issue either way on that.
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Since there is no answer yet I will a suggestion. I see that you can stack tables for multitabling but it does not bring table needing action the front of the screen when I have used it. Is there a way to implement this feature easily,otherwise the stacking of tables does little for me and limits to 4 tables and I know I can play 24 when needed. Would like to play 6-8 tables though at a time.

Hey Evildrum,

All of the hand challenges reset at a time of the corresponding tournament START time. I am working on confirming whether the hands played in the tournament will count towards the same challenge next week. I'll try to get back to you with that answer asap.

I really like the multi-tabling suggestion - I know it can be a bit of a pain switching between multiple games. I'll send that suggestion on to the poker team and pass back any updates.  I think there are some firefox/chrome extensions that can help you tile your open windows. Although, I know that it would still be better to receive some sort of action notification in browser.

If you have any other suggestions/questions, feel free to email them to me directly - [email protected]

Thanks!
Calvin

Question Update: Only cash games are counted towards the hand challenges.
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Did you guys change the way the tracker keeps track of hands?
I recall you used to be able to get started on the 100 hands as soon as the tourney started,now it looks like it does not track till the tourney is over.
Is this correct that hands during the tourney no longer count,just curious,no big issue either way on that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Since there is no answer yet I will a suggestion. I see that you can stack tables for multitabling but it does not bring table needing action the front of the screen when I have used it. Is there a way to implement this feature easily,otherwise the stacking of tables does little for me and limits to 4 tables and I know I can play 24 when needed. Would like to play 6-8 tables though at a time.
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Anyway, after playing on the site for the past few days I've found the level of competition to be far far below your competitors so you've certainly won my business regardless, and we're talking about added money so anything you choose to do is certainly a bonus and appreciated.  My main concern is that you run these promos and the people in charge of making the decisions notice that it's primarily people "gaming" the system and cut promos out entirely, when slight changes could both prevent "gaming" and drive even more action to the tables (which makes everyone money).

Ya the players are terrible. Just wait until you have an extended impossible run of cards. Several people have mentioned it in this thread. The donkeys suck out at a ridiculous rate.

There is no justification for not recording hand histories.

Nitrogen still hasn't doesn't shit other than send some bitch on here to say nothing meaningful.

Keep it classy Statsmajor, I've taken your feedback and passed it along to the poker team who are taking it into consideration.

Thanks,
Calvin

Keep it classy?

You are a fucking useless cocksucker who works for a scam site. You come on here and act like it is no big deal. The cards run so unnaturally on your site it would be a joke if people weren't getting robbed blind. It is no wonder here are so many fucking fish on the site since they are rewarded for their stupidity.

Don't fucking believe me? RECORD THE FUCKING HAND HISTORIES. That is what honest, legitimate and reputable poker sites do. Nitrogen is clearly none of these.

Go fuck yourself Calvin.
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Anyway, after playing on the site for the past few days I've found the level of competition to be far far below your competitors so you've certainly won my business regardless, and we're talking about added money so anything you choose to do is certainly a bonus and appreciated.  My main concern is that you run these promos and the people in charge of making the decisions notice that it's primarily people "gaming" the system and cut promos out entirely, when slight changes could both prevent "gaming" and drive even more action to the tables (which makes everyone money).

Ya the players are terrible. Just wait until you have an extended impossible run of cards. Several people have mentioned it in this thread. The donkeys suck out at a ridiculous rate.

There is no justification for not recording hand histories.

Nitrogen still hasn't doesn't shit other than send some bitch on here to say nothing meaningful.

Keep it classy Statsmajor, I've taken your feedback and passed it along to the poker team who are taking it into consideration.

Thanks,
Calvin

Keep it classy?
Pretty clear you have legitimacy issue and establishing hand histories or submitting to a audit would relieve this issue.
Poking the frustrated customer base is not a good idea.
------------------;-;;------------------------------
Change the hourly freeroll to top 3 paid, you have 40 entries at peak hours and the chances have diminished in cashing for a lot of players. These winners usually (If not multi accounting) contribute to the rake and having more active tables. A structure like this would help:
1st .0032
2nd .0018
3rd .0012
The structure needs to be altered.


Hey Evildrum,

I'm not trying to poke the frustrated customer base. It's definitely in our best interest to ensure that our poker is fair. The more people who are content with the quality and fairness of our software, the more people we will have sitting at those tables. Unfortunately I can't make promises about hand histories at this time, but we appreciate your patience while the team looks into this.

Also, thanks for the poker schedule suggestions! If you have any other questions or feedback for us, I'd be happy to take them - [email protected].

-Calvin
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Anyway, after playing on the site for the past few days I've found the level of competition to be far far below your competitors so you've certainly won my business regardless, and we're talking about added money so anything you choose to do is certainly a bonus and appreciated.  My main concern is that you run these promos and the people in charge of making the decisions notice that it's primarily people "gaming" the system and cut promos out entirely, when slight changes could both prevent "gaming" and drive even more action to the tables (which makes everyone money).

Ya the players are terrible. Just wait until you have an extended impossible run of cards. Several people have mentioned it in this thread. The donkeys suck out at a ridiculous rate.

There is no justification for not recording hand histories.

Nitrogen still hasn't doesn't shit other than send some bitch on here to say nothing meaningful.

Keep it classy Statsmajor, I've taken your feedback and passed it along to the poker team who are taking it into consideration.

Thanks,
Calvin

Keep it classy?
Pretty clear you have legitimacy issue and establishing hand histories or submitting to a audit would relieve this issue.
Poking the frustrated customer base is not a good idea.
------------------;-;;------------------------------
Change the hourly freeroll to top 3 paid, you have 40 entries at peak hours and the chances have diminished in cashing for a lot of players. These winners usually (If not multi accounting) contribute to the rake and having more active tables. A structure like this would help:
1st .0032
2nd .0018
3rd .0012
The structure needs to be altered.
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