Funny how Jeff Ownby also used to not pay out on his and Sonny Vleisides' sites while both were in Costa Rica till the time Sonny fled to Italy to hide at his cousin's house till he was arrested for his lottery scam.
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Topic: NITROGENSPORTS.EU - WARNING! Check every rule and do not leave any BTC balance. (Read 4978 times)
November 01, 2014, 11:46:47 PM
July 25, 2014, 12:34:42 AM
Well if you read support message, they are also saying Yankees +0 is not a money line bet.
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
Well if the score was 0-0 after 5 innings. You would push and get your money back so not money line.
I'm not agreeing with Nitrogen here. They should definitely offer moneylines for these bets. I see them avoid moneylines on huge spreads too but..
+0 is still considered a spread
Sorry Kosh Yankees +128 as DOGS to Darvish is most def considered ML. I see what you are saying about push but then they would need to add a DRAW option like soccer. Since Ive pushed like 6 half games this week alone on +0 spreads as you say, imagine the house advantage. Would have to be like Yanks +200 or lot more if a draw was a LOSS on half ML bets and there was no DRAW bet. +0 is not a spread. Its lazy programming.
July 25, 2014, 12:09:20 AM
If you are referring to the yankees orioles slip it was graded a loss and they still claim it to be.
July 25, 2014, 12:05:29 AM
Wait they counted your bet as a loss? It should definitely be a refund...
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Exactly. I made some bets i wouldn't have made if I didn't win that bet.
July 24, 2014, 11:33:43 PM
Wait they counted your bet as a loss? It should definitely be a refund...
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
The other slip was for the full game.
If that were to happen, I'm sure they would have canceled all other bets posted after unless he had enough BTC in his account to cover them.
Wrong they waited until i deposited BTC back into the account to freeze my account and cancel it.
July 24, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
Wait they counted your bet as a loss? It should definitely be a refund...
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
The other slip was for the full game.
If that were to happen, I'm sure they would have canceled all other bets posted after unless he had enough BTC in his account to cover them.
July 24, 2014, 11:32:34 PM
Wait they counted your bet as a loss? It should definitely be a refund...
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Exactly. I made some bets i wouldn't have made if I didn't win that bet.
July 24, 2014, 11:30:36 PM
Wait they counted your bet as a loss? It should definitely be a refund...
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
Also they totally messed up by counting it as a win and then canceling the win. Books should not so that under any circumstances. It creates a chain of events where then all your bets today get messed up.
July 24, 2014, 11:30:20 PM
unless the home team is leading after 4.5 innings.
The home team was leading after 4.5. Rules are rules right? The sentence does not make sense. So what happens if the home team is winning after 4.5. The word "unless" is a conjunction that negates the statement if not true. Basic English here folks. It should negate the first part of the sentence which is "the game is official". Also the game did not go all 5 innings anyway, so the whole sentence should be void. Now, I kinda get the gist of what they were going for, but grammatically speaking it does not make a lick of sense. The BetUS wording is perfect.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
NYY 1 0 0 0 0 - - - - 1 4 0
BAL 0 0 0 3 0 - - - - 3 5 0
NITROGEN FIX YOUR FULL GAME RULE AS WELL.
un·less
ənˈles,ˌən-/
conjunction
conjunction: unless
except if (used to introduce a case in which a statement being made is not true or valid).
"unless you have a photographic memory, repetition is vital"
The home team was leading after 4.5. Rules are rules right? The sentence does not make sense. So what happens if the home team is winning after 4.5. The word "unless" is a conjunction that negates the statement if not true. Basic English here folks. It should negate the first part of the sentence which is "the game is official". Also the game did not go all 5 innings anyway, so the whole sentence should be void. Now, I kinda get the gist of what they were going for, but grammatically speaking it does not make a lick of sense. The BetUS wording is perfect.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
NYY 1 0 0 0 0 - - - - 1 4 0
BAL 0 0 0 3 0 - - - - 3 5 0
NITROGEN FIX YOUR FULL GAME RULE AS WELL.
un·less
ənˈles,ˌən-/
conjunction
conjunction: unless
except if (used to introduce a case in which a statement being made is not true or valid).
"unless you have a photographic memory, repetition is vital"
July 24, 2014, 11:29:21 PM
They say their full game rules made this a loss. That rule is as archaic as the half game rules. Please get someone to check over ALL rules to make sure they actually make sense in the real world.
July 24, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Woops posted the wrong slip in my OP. Fixed. Pained me to log back into that site.
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3f09264N25ML3J1L0ZNZUhOZ0svNHRnNUtaQT09/r/72457/
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3f09264N25ML3J1L0ZNZUhOZ0svNHRnNUtaQT09/r/72457/
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=340713101
EDIT: My mistake. Thought you meant first 5.
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The result of the game is official after 5 innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4.5 innings. If a game is called or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning unless the home team scores to tie, or take the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called. Bets will be refunded if the home team ties the game and it is suspended.
They got you there.
July 24, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
Woops posted the wrong slip in my OP. Fixed. Pained me to log back into that site.
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3f09264N25ML3J1L0ZNZUhOZ0svNHRnNUtaQT09/r/72457/
So what do you guys think now?
https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/3f09264N25ML3J1L0ZNZUhOZ0svNHRnNUtaQT09/r/72457/
So what do you guys think now?
July 24, 2014, 11:16:33 PM
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To top this off I had lost a similar bet last week. Again with the Yankees. Yankees Orioles, rained out. I took the bet as a loss because it was a loss. The Yanks were losing and the game was called due to rain.
Post the slip. The one you posted is not for that game. If you're talking about http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=340713101 - That bet should have been canceled and refunded since it didn't go a full 5 innings, right? ]
July 24, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
Well if you read support message, they are also saying Yankees +0 is not a money line bet.
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
Well if the score was 0-0 after 5 innings. You would push and get your money back so not money line.
I'm not agreeing with Nitrogen here. They should definitely offer moneylines for these bets. I see them avoid moneylines on huge spreads too but..
+0 is still considered a spread
July 24, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
Oh yea +0 is the best spread I've ever gotten. Again there is NO ML option in half betting on Nitro. +0 is obviously the ML by default for the lazy programmer.
July 24, 2014, 11:04:55 PM
That's a shitty way to lose 2 BTC. The way the rules are presented are certainly archaic.
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Their rules page say different: http://www.bovada.lv/help/baseball
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Moneyline wagers are official after 5 innings of play (4.5 innings if the home team is winning).
Those are for moneyline. OP was technically spread.
Although Bovada has listed:
2. Total/Runline wagers are official after 9 innings of play (8.5 innings if the home team is winning). If a game is called before 9 innings have been played Total and Runline wagers are settled as No Action. If a game goes 9 or more innings and is NOT completed (e.g., suspended, rain, darkness), wagers on the Runline and Total still have action and will be settled according to rule 3 below.
3. If a baseball game goes 9 or more innings and is NOT completed (e.g., suspended, rain, darkness), wagers on the Runline and Total still have action.
July 24, 2014, 11:03:49 PM
Well if you read support message, they are also saying Yankees +0 is not a money line bet.
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
There is no money line option for the half. +0 is the money line. How can they not now their own system?
July 24, 2014, 11:00:48 PM
That's a shitty way to lose 2 BTC. The way the rules are presented are certainly archaic.
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Their rules page say different: http://www.bovada.lv/help/baseball
Quote
Moneyline wagers are official after 5 innings of play (4.5 innings if the home team is winning).
July 24, 2014, 10:57:14 PM
That's a shitty way to lose 2 BTC. The way the rules are presented are certainly archaic.
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Also when you make moneyline wagers on full game it will ask you whether or not you want action if the starting pitcher changes.
Nitrogen has none of these things.
If they hope to avoid future confusion, they should really make an effort to display the rules prominently so that people don't feel cheated.
Bovada - A fiat book - Has this listed when you click 1st half lines
"Game must go 5 innings and both pitchers must start for wagers to have action. The score after 5 innings will be used for settling these wagers."
Also when you make moneyline wagers on full game it will ask you whether or not you want action if the starting pitcher changes.
Nitrogen has none of these things.
If they hope to avoid future confusion, they should really make an effort to display the rules prominently so that people don't feel cheated.
July 24, 2014, 10:52:24 PM
Yea, well it doesn't give me confidence when support is clueless about what happened in the game as well. Another reason I wont be coming back or recommending to friends and acquaintances who are huge betters. We are talking about 2BTC bet here (max bet), not some chump change.
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