No Bounty For Newbies .. A new war - page 2.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

Bitcointalk admin and mods nothing to do.if see the rules before joining any bounty,you can see that manager have right to change the rules or take any decision. So you have nothing to do if they Change the rules.but most of the bounty campaign accept newbie for social media campaign, only for sig need high rank profile.

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The forum cannot and will not be able to mandate bounty managers and operators to stop using newbies in their schemes. Of course, any advertising is still advertisement nonetheless, so using newbies as some sort of an advertisement media to further their interests and intent to penetrate the market is a no-brainer, considering that most newbies would accept pennies in exchange of a hard day's work.

Well at the least, this forum does not allow newbies to have signatures like higher-ranking members have, else this will be a much more abused area for the managers and operators alike.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

This situation definitely doesn't happen in all bounties. It is unfortunate that these situations occur, but the best thing you can do is to tell us where this happened and mark them as spam. I don't think Bitcointalk moderators are mute on these topics, i believe they still care about all members but it is hard to keep an eye on all scammers.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

If the users, especially newbies got scammed, its not the moderator and the OPs responsibilty because no one told them to join bounty campaigns and signature campaigns. As newbies they should be very careful at doing anything here in the forum, think about it multiple times before deciding. And it's not a secret that there people that would take advantage of anyone if had the chance, and their actions are out of our control, what the newbies can control is their actions. So if newbies wants to be accepted by bounty campaigns, its euther they work hard for their ranks to level up or buy it.

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I know it feels like that, I understand your feelings, but some campaigns do not accept newbies because they think sorry is spam, there are some campaigns that allow newbies to join the campaign, so be careful before you enter the campaign. This is from my own point of view, sorry if someone is offended.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

Newbies aren't welcomed by most bounty managers in this forum, and sometimes they accept them just for limited campaigns (especially the social media ones). So it is better that either you wait until you upgrade and get the Junior member rank, or you buy the copper member rank for a cheap cost, and it is already considered by most bounty managers as Junior rank.

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Quote from: Onuohakk on October 13, 2019, 11:52:09 AM

What marvels me most, is seeing a newbie joining many bounty campaign through facebook and twitter without much knowledge of the project. Bounties for newbies worth nothing at the end because crowd do partake in it.
Do newbie expect much from such campaign? Without been scammed at the end

They do and to understand their background you'd have to put yourself in their shoes. I don't know where you're coming from but imagine a teenager from India or Pakistan, or one of the poor African countries. He's looking for something to do online and has no background in programming, design, journalism, nothing. He hears about earning on Bitcointalk and sees that managers are paying a dollar to do this a dollar to do that. Post a few tweets = a dollar, get a referral = a dollar, write a post in ANN =a dollar and this is in the world when his father is earning a dollar per hour in a full time job. Where you can eat in a nice restaurant for $3. We'll keep seeing them spamming the forums as long as there are campaigns to accept them and we'll see them being scammed because they're the perfect victims.

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What marvels me most, is seeing a newbie joining many bounty campaign through facebook and twitter without much knowledge of the project. Bounties for newbies worth nothing at the end because crowd do partake in it.
Do newbie expect much from such campaign? Without been scammed at the end

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on October 13, 2019, 03:29:18 AM

Unfortunately it's how Bitcointalk is being advertised by some people.

> Where do you earn bitcoin/crypto?
>> I earn through Bitcointalk!

Hence we frequently see people here solely to earn bucks. The people who go here to actually read and post to ask beginner questions are a minority.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on October 13, 2019, 03:29:18 AM

Who told you to join bounty campaign really? Can you please explain it briefly? Are admin or moderators invited you to join spam campaign? Was this forum created for bounty spammer ? Stop blaming to admin and moderators. Don't make unrealistic comments about admin and moderators. This forum has been created for crypto discussion. But we are earning from here by varieties way. Admin isn't related with any of them so we can't blame to him. Admin really not encourage to run any bounty campaign also he don't want to loss his user. That's why still remaining bounty campaign. So you should do your own diligence before join any campaign. Don't act like spammer.

This is the problem with the newbies jumping into the bounty section, they taught those bounties will give them some decent amount of money just like that. they will not hesitate to join as even some bounties that not worth their time. then when something is wrong, they will complain even though no Admins or staff has told them to join. these people really need to know that when joining bounties they will be responsible for what is the outcome of it. These guys are unbelievable when they are successful with the bounties, you cannot even see their shadows here, they will just disappear with no trace.

I think someone brought up them here and told that they can earn passively by just using this forum, but reality strikes at him and now he see that bounty campaigns are not totally paying since some will turn scam and some of them will fail. And it's totally pathetic for blaming someone when they didn't earn and they should learn to set there mindset that it's a luck game and not all the time we can earn specially with newbie ranks where almost no bounty opportunities opening the doors for them since they had limited resources upon promoting in this forum.

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This is the problem with the newbies jumping into the bounty section

Excluding the merit requirement, a member would be a newbie for no less than 28 days, except on the occasion that they register and start posting close to the end of an activity window.
I don't think this is enough time frame to start jumping into bounties and trying to monetize your account.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with making some bucks from the forum, but you need to have learnt to an extent before contributing and getting paid to posts. This takes time and effort, otherwise it would just lead to a spam fest, reason why the merit requirement was added and updated.

Bounties are not the primary objective, and hence it is not the moderators priority.
My advice is op, should take out time to read through the forum. Stickie threads are a good place to start, you would learn a lot along the way, and would be able to protect yourself from scams.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves

Who told you to join bounty campaign really? Can you please explain it briefly? Are admin or moderators invited you to join spam campaign? Was this forum created for bounty spammer ? Stop blaming to admin and moderators. Don't make unrealistic comments about admin and moderators. This forum has been created for crypto discussion. But we are earning from here by varieties way. Admin isn't related with any of them so we can't blame to him. Admin really not encourage to run any bounty campaign also he don't want to loss his user. That's why still remaining bounty campaign. So you should do your own diligence before join any campaign. Don't act like spammer.

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Quote from: ivakar on October 12, 2019, 06:44:53 AM

Quote from: mk4 on October 11, 2019, 11:13:24 AM

come on, do not defend scummy bounty managers (of course they are not all like this)
we all know that sometimes terms and conditions of bounty programs changes.
sometimes changes are moderate and that is ok, but sometimes changes are drastic, for example as the situation OP has described and I think this is wrong.
and moderators should start to act, maybe it is ok to give a mark that this particular bounty manage have no trust and could deceive.
but some kind of reaction from moderator should be, imho

I'm not defending bounty managers, I'm defending the new system. Are we really blaming bounty managers for removing signature campaigns for Newbies? Because how are these projects and services make money off publicity off signatures if newbies aren't allowed to use links on their signatures in the first place(which is a great move by the way, lessens a lot of spam)? Think about it for a second.

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OP, can you be more specific? About which campaign and manager you're talking about. Accepting Newbies initially and removing them just before the end of campaign doesn't sounds nice. You should start scam accusation.
And you should calm down. Yeah, you've been scammed, but it's not the end of world. Most of use been scammed in crypto world. In general bounties is shit and not only newbies are often scammed there. Meanwhile Bitcoin paying campaigns are still going strong and scams are rare thing there. And merit system - it's one of the best things that ever happened to this forum, there is no reason to complain about it if you're goid member.

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I feel sorry for the bounty hunter. I find that many projects capitalize on the hunter's bounty and trust. They delay monthly, even for a year and no news. This is a scam.

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Quote from: Rikafip on October 12, 2019, 04:42:50 AM

Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

While i agree that it is not fair to change rules in the middle of the bounty campaign and exclude newbies, in my opinion Bounty Managers should set Jr.Member rank as minimum to participate in bounty campaigns.
Anyone that is active on this forum for a few months , and is still a newbie, basically doesn't add anything to this forum, and see it only as milking cow, so setting Jr Member as minimum should discourage that kind of behaviour.

If you really want to participate in bounty campaigns, I would suggest you to be active on this forum, reach at least Member rank ( that shouldn't be too hard as it requires only 10 merit) and join some signature campaign that pays in BTC.

We cannot blame bounty managers, moderators and eve low rank bounty hunters. No one's need to be blame, the problem arises based on the performance of each individual, I do think that we shouldn't generalize everything. If bounty managers are requiring member ranks, that needs to be respected, they have their standards, so if a newbie or jr member doesn't met the requirements, they need to work hard for it, it takes time, but the reward is promising. Just remember, the purpose of this forum is to provide knowledge, profit is the bonus.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 11, 2019, 11:13:24 AM

Campaigns aren't in the brink of extinction like what you're trying to imply. Campaigns just got very competitive due to the new merit system, which is a very good move in my opinion. Now, the more deserving people now have better opportunities of earning, in contrast to how it used to be whereas almost everything was flooded by bots and spam accounts. Well, unfortunately for you, you now have to try to put some effort on your posts to actually get into the campaigns.

Also, don't act like you were robbed of opportunities. If you actually deserve to earn here, you will be able to. Best of luck. Tongue

come on, do not defend scummy bounty managers (of course they are not all like this)
we all know that sometimes terms and conditions of bounty programs changes.
sometimes changes are moderate and that is ok, but sometimes changes are drastic, for example as the situation OP has described and I think this is wrong.
and moderators should start to act, maybe it is ok to give a mark that this particular bounty manage have no trust and could deceive.
but some kind of reaction from moderator should be, imho

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

While i agree that it is not fair to change rules in the middle of the bounty campaign and exclude newbies, in my opinion Bounty Managers should set Jr.Member rank as minimum to participate in bounty campaigns.
Anyone that is active on this forum for a few months , and is still a newbie, basically doesn't add anything to this forum, and see it only as milking cow, so setting Jr Member as minimum should discourage that kind of behaviour.

If you really want to participate in bounty campaigns, I would suggest you to be active on this forum, reach at least Member rank ( that shouldn't be too hard as it requires only 10 merit) and join some signature campaign that pays in BTC.

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Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

...bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves... admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute... if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves...

Moderators and admins are not mute only this is not their task to watch after scammed newbies. You are the only one here who is responsible for that.

Every bounty hunter should carefully choose the campaign he is willing to participate in. I am not talking here about the stakes and posting requirements only the project itself.

After all, scams still happen and if you have been cheated, then we have a special Scam Accusations section, where you can start a thread.

Admins, moderators, and even the whole community will be happy to help you, if you are right and really someone scammed you.

PS
Before you start with bounties you should educate yourself and there are hundreds of threads already with the subject: "How To Bounty?"
Just use the search feature, put How To Bounty phrase and look in the last 1000 days of history.

how to choose a good bounty ??
How to Get Started Becoming a Bounty Hunter For a newbie
How to check bounty legit or scam??

lesor

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Quote from: creepyjas on October 12, 2019, 01:17:19 AM

Quote from: lesor on October 11, 2019, 08:00:02 AM

Recent approach by bounty managers treating newbie as some sort of slaves is alarming, you work and few days to end of bounty they change rules and cancel all newbies on spreadsheet after using them to gain investors, yet admin of bitcontalk and moderators are mute seen their members being used and dump, if you cant stand up for us, we will stand up for ourselves, the future of Twitter and facebook campaign is over, even signature participants are being paid worthless coins, even merit be like jamb Shocked

Stay safe son I love you.

Yeah, you can talk about some shitty campaigns but if you’re observant enough, you can see that serious campaigns just leveled-up their game. A lot of newbie - member rank peeps were just duped account used to hoard bounty prizes. To prevent this, and maintain the forum’s cleanliness, bounty managers improved their standard on choosing their participants.

Win - win situation for the forum and campaign.

Forum - less trash
Campaign - better integrity and participant looks more credible

That’s how they see it

Now, what I can advise is to work hard and get to Sr Mr and up if you want a good paying campaign.

Thanks... Enlighten me

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