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Topic: No ifs, no buts, not maybe Brexit is happening by 31st January 2020. (Read 310 times)

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Boris has won the elections comfortably and has immediately proclaimed that, "We will get Brexit done on time by 31 January, no ifs, no buts, not maybe."

After all the drama and the uncertainty it’s finally happening, and I hope this decision will prove a good one for the UK citizens.

In another update Trump has promised a massive trade deal for the UK post the Brexit, and this is another good news for Boris and I’m sure many here would be keen to know what kind of deal will Trump offer him.

There was lots of debate on this but each time we all paused because there was no clarity whether it would happen or no, but today we have a deadline set and it’s time to revive this debate:

1) If Brexit happens without a deal will it crush UKs economy?.

2) Will US deal be so massive that UK doesn’t need EU deal?

3) Which major sector of UK will be hit because of Brexit, will it be tourism, education, industry’s etc.

In my personal view Brexit will open further doors for UK, because they’ll be free of the shackles that were put on it by the EU. Though in the short term their economy may take a hit, but in the long run I feel they’ll flourish.

 Now looking forward to reading your opinions about it, and especially people who like in UK e.g Jetcash I know lives there and if anyone else lives there feel free to give your inputs.

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2019-50776671

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-donald-trump-tweets-congratulations-21087836








This is a time to even congratulate UK for their doggedness because as difficult as it seems after the change of two Prime Ministers which comes with its own challenges, they are now able to get a glimpse of what they hope to get when they make the decision to leave the EU. Much more congratualtions goes to Boris Johnson for being the one to take the country to the ''promised land''. What is left now is to ensure that the Prime Minister live to the responsibility and trust that the country have bestowed upon him.

On the deal handed by the US, I don't think the effect is just going to come from the US alone rather from all of its allies which would make it one hell of a significant win for the Prime Minister and the economy as a whole.
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as a christian kingdom uk should theretically have much stricter rules on stem cell research than atheist communist democracy EU

have you not read the news of what the church lets its priests do to little kids. and how the BBC media employed many..
i dont think christians actually care about the morals of that stuff, else it woudnt happen or get covered up.

after all they dont even pay alter boys to sing. so that makes me (sarcasticly) aware that 'britains got talent' a capitalist non-religious organisation has more morals than the church. atleast singers on the telent show get paid

well thats because you have tied your moarch from doing his work.

lack of christianity is responsible for low birth rates, and the greed of brits to need to exploit foreigners,

get ready to feel capitalist reality once you will see the economy to betray the people because it needs workers to exploit.
legendary
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as a christian kingdom uk should theretically have much stricter rules on stem cell research than atheist communist democracy EU

have you not read the news of what the church lets its priests do to little kids. and how the BBC media employed many..
i dont think christians actually care about the morals of that stuff, else it woudnt happen or get covered up.

after all they dont even pay alter boys to sing. so that makes me (sarcasticly) aware that 'britains got talent' a capitalist non-religious organisation has more morals than the church. atleast singers on the telent show get paid
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wealth creation is the goal.
having no 'eu quotas' means we can create more things and then be able to sell them to many countries instead of being limited to how many items we can create due to the eu rationing policies
imagine under eu if we were only allowed to produce 1000 tonnes of wheat. well outside the eu we can produce 10,000 tones and sell just 1000 to the eu to not upset their balance but then have 9000 to sell to whomever else wants it outside the eu
thus more wheat farmers and more exports

as for trade deals we wont have to make every product conform to eu standards just because we were eu. instead when trading with the eu we just have to make sure the produce going into the eu meets their standards where as the same product can have other tweaks done to it to fit other countries needs. and no longer a one size fits all policy.

although we were in the eu we were not completely locked to them. otherwise our electricity regulations would require our house wall plugs be eu plug sockets and the currency would be euro not pound. so we already kind of had a half a foot step out of the eu anyway and we survived. so taking the other step out wont require anything big changing

for instance if EU is anti-stem cell research the UK can do it. but then not trade any research with the eu because they dont want it. instead we can trade it with other interested countries. in the past if in the eu and they were anti-stem cell research we wouldnt have even been able to research it in the first place

so now its  question of what new things can we do previously forbidden and what other countries would be interested in it
as a christian kingdom uk should theretically have much stricter rules on stem cell research than atheist communist democracy EU

after brexit there will be 2 choices for uk, either, exploit the own population, or get destroyed by trying to exploit african, muslim, indian immigrants.

after a while we then could see a completely broken and disintegrated UK that will be ruled by the EU banking cartel.
legendary
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wealth creation is the goal.
having no 'eu quotas' means we can create more things and then be able to sell them to many countries instead of being limited to how many items we can create due to the eu rationing policies
imagine under eu if we were only allowed to produce 1000 tonnes of wheat. well outside the eu we can produce 10,000 tones and sell just 1000 to the eu to not upset their balance but then have 9000 to sell to whomever else wants it outside the eu
thus more wheat farmers and more exports

as for trade deals we wont have to make every product conform to eu standards just because we were eu. instead when trading with the eu we just have to make sure the produce going into the eu meets their standards where as the same product can have other tweaks done to it to fit other countries needs. and no longer a one size fits all policy.

although we were in the eu we were not completely locked to them. otherwise our electricity regulations would require our house wall plugs be eu plug sockets and the currency would be euro not pound. so we already kind of had a half a foot step out of the eu anyway and we survived. so taking the other step out wont require anything big changing

for instance if EU is anti-stem cell research the UK can do it. but then not trade any research with the eu because they dont want it. instead we can trade it with other interested countries. in the past if in the eu and they were anti-stem cell research we wouldnt have even been able to research it in the first place

so now its  question of what new things can we do previously forbidden and what other countries would be interested in it
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Why does everybody keep saying that Britain outside the EU will be nothing. The City of London is the major financial city in the World, even more important than Wall Street. Wall Street handles stocks, but the City of London controls the long term investments of the really wealth, and if you haven't got 300 years of tradition behind you, then they won't trust any parvenu. Britain has a very long history of international trade, and it built the largest empire that has ever existed, and it still controls most of the world. It is heavily involved in wealth transfer, and the EU was one of its creations to take corporate asset stripping up to the stripping of assets from counties. This has been obvious from the 1970s, and people are starting to realise this. A real Brexit will never happen, the real question is how far will Boris go before the puppet masters call a stop.

Bitcoiners understand many of the problems of fist currencies and the central banks. It always surprises me that they don't research the political motivation behind fractional reserve banking, zero interest rates, derivatives, and the creation of the central banks. It's time to forget about the EU. It is a globalist banking concept, and it has run about as far as it can go. I just hope we get free before the damage that toxic debt failures will cause.

you are so damn stupid outside of EU you are just a bunch of islanderists, with an economy that needs foreign trade to work,

you will return to tribalism or worse.

besides, the problem with economy is that it is also political, thats what brits dont get. economy and politics can't be seperated

your society is at risk to be torn apart, by the greed of private enterpreneurs that want to attract foreigners use their labour for private enrichment for 20 years and then throw them into the welfare system of the society, and blame the state
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Bobby Fischer was right
Bitcoiners understand many of the problems of fist currencies and the central banks. It always surprises me that they don't research the political motivation behind fractional reserve banking, zero interest rates, derivatives, and the creation of the central banks.
It's not like people can't do their research, the case is that this rabbit hole just leads to very dark place at the end.
Most are refusing to believe cuz it against the mainstream brainwashing, others are scared of the truth and remain silent.
You may check my post nr10 it this thread, basically all is there, maybe a little convoluted but it's there. Not even a conspiracy theory any more rather a theory of conspiracy, based on scientific study and hard facts. TNC's references, and these study are even referenced by Wikipedia...   
 
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Why does everybody keep saying that Britain outside the EU will be nothing. The City of London is the major financial city in the World, even more important than Wall Street. Wall Street handles stocks, but the City of London controls the long term investments of the really wealth, and if you haven't got 300 years of tradition behind you, then they won't trust any parvenu. Britain has a very long history of international trade, and it built the largest empire that has ever existed, and it still controls most of the world. It is heavily involved in wealth transfer, and the EU was one of its creations to take corporate asset stripping up to the stripping of assets from counties. This has been obvious from the 1970s, and people are starting to realise this. A real Brexit will never happen, the real question is how far will Boris go before the puppet masters call a stop.

Bitcoiners understand many of the problems of fist currencies and the central banks. It always surprises me that they don't research the political motivation behind fractional reserve banking, zero interest rates, derivatives, and the creation of the central banks. It's time to forget about the EU. It is a globalist banking concept, and it has run about as far as it can go. I just hope we get free before the damage that toxic debt failures will cause.
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Very happy for the British.

I think Brexit is a shitty idea and will not have nice outcomes for the British, but that was their choice and it should be respected. Those fuckers were really trying to deny the most democratic procedure we have in the West and I'm glad they were beaten like the assholes they are.

Better die the way you chose that living the way you're told.
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The one thing I consistently hear from the media is that this would destroy the UK's economy but it seems those who voted exit has heard that and still decided they'd rather suffer than stay in the EU. It seems it has been lukewarm about it to begin with by retaining their own currency.

Best wishes to the British. The EU ain't letting you out easy. It'll make sure you'll suffer from your "hubris" of trying to exist apart from it.
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If you link trade deals to Brexit withdrawal, then it isn't Brexit. We need to regain complete control, and then leave the industries to sort out trade deals. I hope Boris does try to help us to regain independence, but he is an Eton/Oxford banker, so it is unlikely that he will allow us to break free completely. The EU is controlled by the morphed British Empire, and the ruling dynasties there are the Rothscilds, The Vatican and the British Crown. They also control the UK civil service, Westminster, the police and the judiciary. They also control the mainstream media. It is difficult to see how Boris can get us away from that.

If he really wants to improve the NHS, then banning Statins, repurchasing NHS property, and taking back control of services will save massive cash outflows for generations to come. Lets have some research into the real effects of allopathic drugs, and reduce over prescribing them.

Then he can address banking. The UK used to be a capitalist nation, but the EU is one of the vehicles that has consistently transferred capital out of the country. You can't have capitalism without capital, so lets return to wealth creation, and get back to rebuilding capital and entrepreneurship.

you are to stupid to know that the master is the one that runs the currency, in the eu its the jewish masonic banking cartel and the various royalties.

so it is in the uk, there is no such thing of people ruling the uk, its not the case, uk is under bankster rule.

the elite in the western banks has no relationship to their popluation they would sell all of them to hostile foreigners, if they could run their banking power just 1 day longer, so it will also happen with post brexit uk, when the elite will sell their country to labourers from abroad. the most important thing for them is that they can print the money everyone else is running after.
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If you link trade deals to Brexit withdrawal, then it isn't Brexit. We need to regain complete control, and then leave the industries to sort out trade deals. I hope Boris does try to help us to regain independence, but he is an Eton/Oxford banker, so it is unlikely that he will allow us to break free completely. The EU is controlled by the morphed British Empire, and the ruling dynasties there are the Rothscilds, The Vatican and the British Crown. They also control the UK civil service, Westminster, the police and the judiciary. They also control the mainstream media. It is difficult to see how Boris can get us away from that.

If he really wants to improve the NHS, then banning Statins, repurchasing NHS property, and taking back control of services will save massive cash outflows for generations to come. Lets have some research into the real effects of allopathic drugs, and reduce over prescribing them.

Then he can address banking. The UK used to be a capitalist nation, but the EU is one of the vehicles that has consistently transferred capital out of the country. You can't have capitalism without capital, so lets return to wealth creation, and get back to rebuilding capital and entrepreneurship.

+1 To this.

The guy knows he can't just leave the EU without any deal, or leaving without any trade deals. That'd kill the country.

Fixing NHS is going to be interesting, but ya know, not impossible. I mean you have a growing and aging population which is going to get expensive, but British healthcare politics isn't really my cup of tea -- hehe.
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This will be a long waited celebration. Congratulations
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Brexit will create a lot of problem for UK. World is about globalization and uk are doing the opposite

america WAS the globalist, but now europe wants to be part of the 'brics' side of brazil russia and china .. UK doesnt want to pick sides but reality is that UK wants to stay friendly with america
thus become the go between of amero and brics

america is politics central, eurupe is social central and uk wants to be the financial central
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Brexit will create a lot of problem for UK. World is about globalization and uk are doing the opposite
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Nigel Farage agreed with the torries that he wouldn't use his brexit party to compete with tories if they promised brexit was not postponed again. He has a lot of bargaining power on this, see his numbers on EU elections. It's happening for real this time, and the deadline is 2020.

Read the first paragraph here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election#Campaign
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If you link trade deals to Brexit withdrawal, then it isn't Brexit. We need to regain complete control, and then leave the industries to sort out trade deals. I hope Boris does try to help us to regain independence, but he is an Eton/Oxford banker, so it is unlikely that he will allow us to break free completely. The EU is controlled by the morphed British Empire, and the ruling dynasties there are the Rothscilds, The Vatican and the British Crown. They also control the UK civil service, Westminster, the police and the judiciary. They also control the mainstream media. It is difficult to see how Boris can get us away from that.

If he really wants to improve the NHS, then banning Statins, repurchasing NHS property, and taking back control of services will save massive cash outflows for generations to come. Lets have some research into the real effects of allopathic drugs, and reduce over prescribing them.

Then he can address banking. The UK used to be a capitalist nation, but the EU is one of the vehicles that has consistently transferred capital out of the country. You can't have capitalism without capital, so lets return to wealth creation, and get back to rebuilding capital and entrepreneurship.
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The reason that Boris one is that he ran on a very simple platform. He's going to get brexit done and get over with it. He never said that he's going to do a 'hard exit' or anything along those lines, as he'll be negotiating with the EU as of right now -- though he does have a good deal of cushion b/c he has a MASSIVE majority (biggest since Thatcher in the 80's)

Fucking Corbyn is an idiot -- trying to appease both sides didn't work out for him and now the guy is going to be out of a job.

Boris knows that if he can get a nice win on leaving the EU and getting an OKAY deal with them, then he can move on to real policy and showing that he keeps his promises.
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British politics is being stuck with Brexit for too long. They should at least move.
People are fed up with this stand still. Britain has seen a lot worse situations, this would certainly pass.
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I was really hoping for a hung parliament of probably 300 conservative, 250 labour and 50 snp,

hung parliament? no such thing.
it would have just been another 'coalition government' which if based on your prefered numbers would have seen a tory SNP

coalitions are not good because it just causes excuses and finger pointing at blaming certain sides for just not going forward with things.

though i detest tories. now that they are just a tory leadership and not a tory libdem(previous) or a tory DUP(previous) they got no excuses

so if anything goes bad. its all on them and them alone. no one else to blame. so now they should get their act together. finally
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