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Nobel Laureate Abhijeet Banerjee has recently asked India to print more money and transfer them to the poor class of people to increase demand in the market to tackle upcoming recession post COVID-19.
Reference: https://m.telegraphindia.com/business/abhijit-banerjee-offers-print-money-pill/cid/1763262
A lot of economists will say it is a bad idea because later it will become very difficult to arrest inflation rate. But increasing the demand is a major challenge as well.
Voice your opinion! Will be good or bad step for a diverse country like India?
I would say it is a good step for most countries out there.
Because what does govs by printing more money is actually taking away some value from every money out there a little bit and then give this whole amount to some certain type of people.
In case of US it is an adequate decision to give 'em out to literally every US citizen just because there are foreign holders out there who will suffer the most.
In case of India it is a good decision because if they're going to give out to poor class of people then the rich people are going to suffer (which is not that big of deal - they're going to get their money back from their businesses after surge in demand)
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India will be next to turn on the money printer. In a televised address tonight, Modi announced a $266 billion stimulus package.

He said the plan would be unveiled by his finance minister in the next few days. Not many details are available yet on either the funding or spending side, but economists expect it'll be paid for with bond issuance, direct overseas borrowing, and RBI spending. That means a weaker rupee.

https://www.ft.com/content/5734f333-e4d7-4ebf-9de2-220e537da3f0

Ideas and pressures for printing money are not only happening in India but this discourse is also being debated in Indonesia. Between the two camps, the technocrats were chaired by the Minister of Finance and the camp of politicians. But the final decision remains with the President, which is printing project-based money or printing money by issuing bonds.

Pro technocrats means there are political consequences that arise such as coalition splits and loss of political support for the president whereas if winning the camp of politicians there is a possibility that a country will lose the trust of the international world even the Minister of Finance can resign.
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India will be next to turn on the money printer. In a televised address tonight, Modi announced a $266 billion stimulus package.

He said the plan would be unveiled by his finance minister in the next few days. Not many details are available yet on either the funding or spending side, but economists expect it'll be paid for with bond issuance, direct overseas borrowing, and RBI spending. That means a weaker rupee.

https://www.ft.com/content/5734f333-e4d7-4ebf-9de2-220e537da3f0
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print more money and transfer them to the poor class of people to increase demand in the market
But sir, if the number of poor class people in India is huge, then the gov must print lots of money! It's not the same as the US if you look at the poverty rate and financial strength.

Moreover, money should be used to move the economy by giving incentives to businesses and tax holidays, not for charity purposes.
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There are levels between being like USA and being like Zimbabwe, if your money doesn't worth anything you could be like Zimbabwe and I realize that but Indian money is not worthless neither, people actually use it around the world for either purchasing something from India, or tourism to go there and vacation (and I think it is an amazing place to visit) and most importantly people give their own money to buy Indian labor from the people and get service in return, which those people turn into Indian fiat and use in their regular lives.

So, India may not be like USA at all, nobody is like USA they are maybe rivaled by only China and nobody else, however that doesn't mean that Indian economy is not strong around the world neither, they are doing pretty fine, not awesome but decent enough.

India is a country that has a consistent state platform to become a regional power. proven by India to increase its military power and its foreign policy is more inclined towards America. Modi is great at reading opportunities even now India is a strategic partner of the United States. The United States will build India as America did China in the 90s. India will be used as a proxy by the Americans to fight China in Asia.

This opportunity can be exploited by India to overtake corners before the Americans start looking for trouble with India. It could be because usually, initially, China was also a copycat country tracing how America built its dynamic infrastructure first and then the static infrastructure. After that China made modifications and innovations and improvisations. India can imitate Germany which prints money for weapons of war, or imitates China printing money for means of production or imitates Japan printing money to overcome deflation or follow America to print money to perpetuate its dominance.
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Nobel Laureate Abhijeet Banerjee has recently asked India to print more money and transfer them to the poor class of people to increase demand in the market to tackle upcoming recession post COVID-19.

Reference: https://m.telegraphindia.com/business/abhijit-banerjee-offers-print-money-pill/cid/1763262

A lot of economists will say it is a bad idea because later it will become very difficult to arrest inflation rate. But increasing the demand is a major challenge as well.

Voice your opinion! Will be good or bad step for a diverse country like India?
Is there any other choice right now? Everyone knows how poor country India is (while keeping second place in world's population ranking) and how people live there.
In india there are some tallented programmers and I know it they do 2000$ job for 50-100$ just to live and survive. When you put such country in lockdown, it's another death verdict. At least you can develop immune system against coronavirus but you have no choice when you are left in front of hunger.
So for this reason if they want to still continue lockdown and get rid of excessive death caused by hunger, then they have to print money to just escape now. But what may happen in future... In any way inflation will cause a bad scenario.
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There are levels between being like USA and being like Zimbabwe, if your money doesn't worth anything you could be like Zimbabwe and I realize that but Indian money is not worthless neither, people actually use it around the world for either purchasing something from India, or tourism to go there and vacation (and I think it is an amazing place to visit) and most importantly people give their own money to buy Indian labor from the people and get service in return, which those people turn into Indian fiat and use in their regular lives.

So, India may not be like USA at all, nobody is like USA they are maybe rivaled by only China and nobody else, however that doesn't mean that Indian economy is not strong around the world neither, they are doing pretty fine, not awesome but decent enough.
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When banking institution tells you not worry about money printing then that's the time you should be very worried. Because when they print money their not really making value. They're just stealing value from other units already in circulation to buy stuff like corporate debt, bonds and soon stocks. Look at how most money has loss so much value over time affecting the economy increasing the price of products.
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There is not enough money in the world to help out the poor if you never did that before to begin with. Would Sweden be capable of helping out everyone including companies and every single person during this time of need?

Well, of course they would be capable of doing that, however they were always a social democracy to begin with and they are quite happy to be like that and they are getting help, now they need bigger but they at least had a base to start working with.

Other nations including India and even the bigger ones like usa or uk do not have that because they are full of politicians who are only thinking with their pockets and not their hearts, so to begin now would be way too late and wouldn't be possible because they spent all the taxes on useless stuff to get more money into their pockets to begin with. Hence why printing money is the solution. Also do not consider all money printing with Zimbabwe, USA has been creating more money out of thin air all the time and nothing really happened to them all that bad.

Exactly. And that is because USD is accepted everywhere(even in North Korea most people would be happy if paid with USD). I think the US could "print out" up to $5 trillion, and no one would notice. India, however, is not in this postilion. So they should do it cautiously, in order to not end up like Zimbabwe. And I think they can do it successfully, if they will follow the Abhijeet Banerjee's advices. The thing is that in countries like Zimbabwe the newly printed money go to the rich as a matter of priority, but Banerjee is suggesting to transfer it to the poor.
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Me too I think it is a bad idea to print more money because it will mean so much  money in circulation. This is what causes inflation. If there is more money and India does not have a strong fiscal policy it will mess up the economy and Indians will be the ones to suffer at the end.

Printing more money per se is not that bad. Especially if it is done as an extreme measure to something that is extremely urgent such as what is currently happening to almost all countries. Also, it is being done all around the world. This is not peculiar to India. For as long as it is well-managed, I believe it will do more good than bad.

This is not the only thing that causes inflation. There are so many factors that cause inflation. And, most importantly, inflation is actually not to be fully avoided. It is designed to be there. It should be there, albeit closely managed. 
The problem is that printing money has gone to something we do in extraordinary circumstances to a standard tactic, governments now print a lot of money for no reason at all

Yeah, I bet they do. Well, that has always been the downside of fiat, and in the hands of some people with questionable integrity.

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and now when printing money could be used as a way to stimulate the economy to get off this difficult circumstances they find out this could damage the economy as well, if this crisis last for a lot longer I am not so sure the economic system will survive and probably a big reform will come during the next years.

Printing money out of thin air is one standard economic stimulus, but it is not everyday that we need it. It is not everyday that we are facing a hard economic struggle. That is basically a drastic measure that is much needed in dire times. Yes, it may hurt the economy in the long run, but that could really be needed in times like these. After all, that economic long-term negative effect could be remedied. In the meantime, the majority of the populace do not have food on the table and are not allowed to work either; that is valid enough reason to print more money.
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Me too I think it is a bad idea to print more money because it will mean so much  money in circulation. This is what causes inflation. If there is more money and India does not have a strong fiscal policy it will mess up the economy and Indians will be the ones to suffer at the end.

Printing more money per se is not that bad. Especially if it is done as an extreme measure to something that is extremely urgent such as what is currently happening to almost all countries. Also, it is being done all around the world. This is not peculiar to India. For as long as it is well-managed, I believe it will do more good than bad.

This is not the only thing that causes inflation. There are so many factors that cause inflation. And, most importantly, inflation is actually not to be fully avoided. It is designed to be there. It should be there, albeit closely managed. 
The problem is that printing money has gone to something we do in extraordinary circumstances to a standard tactic, governments now print a lot of money for no reason at all and now when printing money could be used as a way to stimulate the economy to get off this difficult circumstances they find out this could damage the economy as well, if this crisis last for a lot longer I am not so sure the economic system will survive and probably a big reform will come during the next years.
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So right now, it's best to invest now (by printing money) and believe in the incoming/current generation to bring power to the economy, which is a good idea, and wait for the development of technological advancements. So with all the possible positive things that printing money could bring to everyone, does it still solve the current situation that we are in right now?

I know there are a lot of solutions trying to solve COVID-19, but does this affect it directly? All I could think of is the future impact on the economy.

Okay make more money to the economy
  • Give to frontlliners
  • More R&D
  • Helping the needy

It's still going to affect the economy no matter what but then I guess it's better than having a deflation in this current time, right?

The choice is in the hands of Indian leaders, using the old Keynesian understanding or copying countries that have chosen to print money to support development and growth without experiencing inflation as did the United States, China, and Japan. Printing money does not always bring inflation as is the case in Japan now instead Japan wants a little inflation but it can't because of a culture of people who love to save and live frugally. Inflation is not always bad as long its not becoming hyperinflation.

In addition to printing money, modern economists monetary theory also sparked the idea of   a sovereign wealth fund (SWF) and a consolidated bottom of the pyramid. For the current conditions, it will be very effective for India to conduct equity crowdfunding as a step to consolidate the bottom of pyramid. With a profit sharing system and with a small investment, each Indian can help each other and work together to produce economic turnover.

India's millennial generation with technology literacy is expected to be an agent of change for the consolidation of the bottom of the pyramid. So far we have always focused on macroeconomics, so we forget that the microeconomic foundation is the most important. To spin the Indian macroeconomic wheels will be very heavy, but each individual can turn the economic wheels of their environment then consumption and income will be stable because money continues to rotate in the real economy sector and because it revolves in the middle and lower classes then very little money is used for the non-real sector.
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Me too I think it is a bad idea to print more money because it will mean so much  money in circulation. This is what causes inflation. If there is more money and India does not have a strong fiscal policy it will mess up the economy and Indians will be the ones to suffer at the end.

Printing more money per se is not that bad. Especially if it is done as an extreme measure to something that is extremely urgent such as what is currently happening to almost all countries. Also, it is being done all around the world. This is not peculiar to India. For as long as it is well-managed, I believe it will do more good than bad.

This is not the only thing that causes inflation. There are so many factors that cause inflation. And, most importantly, inflation is actually not to be fully avoided. It is designed to be there. It should be there, albeit closely managed. 
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It's a good idea to influence the economy rather than print  All the countries of the earth are browsing a crisis because of COVID-19  to unravel this if the country's economy is trying to reinforce it's an honest step in the long run. this might prevent inflation and increase export investment Helpless people will find a source of income.
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So right now, it's best to invest now (by printing money) and believe in the incoming/current generation to bring power to the economy, which is a good idea, and wait for the development of technological advancements. So with all the possible positive things that printing money could bring to everyone, does it still solve the current situation that we are in right now?

I know there are a lot of solutions trying to solve COVID-19, but does this affect it directly? All I could think of is the future impact on the economy.

Okay make more money to the economy
  • Give to frontlliners
  • More R&D
  • Helping the needy

It's still going to affect the economy no matter what but then I guess it's better than having a deflation in this current time, right?
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So in clarity, it's okay to print money that is going to be used inside the economy of India (since we are talking about India in this topic), and affecting their economy only? Everything goes back to the people of India and back to them, just make sure it would be of help, right?

Not only India, many countries can print their own money as long as they print money with real project guarantees layered with the natural resources and labor they have and without imports from other countries to run the project.

Large population and will soon get a demographic bonus and although many Indians live in poverty, India is a country with advanced technology and even basic education in technology-based India. So that the millennial generation that is synonymous with innovation and change will become the economic power of India. This innovative generation can create practical new ideas to accelerate the economy.

What is blocking India from printing money right now is that India is now a strategic partner of the United States to compete with China in Asia. The United States is now building India as sadly as it did before building the Chinese industry. This could be an opportunity for the rapid development of India as well as a scourge because when there is FDI then they will not want to print money and rely on debt and imports for their development.
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Print money intended by Laureate mimics the strategy carried out by America in solving its economic problems by printing money, only because the dollar is used as an international currency then the inflation effect is borne by the whole world.
I understand what you are trying to say but it would still affect the economy, probably at a different rate since it would affect the whole world.

Print money made by China is not for consumption, not to pay foreign debt, not for imports but for projects where natural and human resources are in China.
So in clarity, it's okay to print money that is going to be used inside the economy of India (since we are talking about India in this topic), and affecting their economy only? Everything goes back to the people of India and back to them, just make sure it would be of help, right?
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This is what happens with a limitless volume of fiat, they want to destroy the world economy by printing more money. Well when Zimbabwe was printing more money without corresponding export and production to back it up, this lead to a total collapse of their economy leading to hyperinflation.
This wouldn't be a good idea. If they want to be like the Zimbabwean dollar with the hyperinflation thing affecting their economy, go right ahead. I think the best move for India is just to ask the private and government companies to help the needy. It's just the same right? Helping them without affecting the economy.

Print money intended by Laureate mimics the strategy carried out by America in solving its economic problems by printing money, only because the dollar is used as an international currency then the inflation effect is borne by the whole world.

The money-printing policy was also carried out by China with a guarantee of multiple projects. The principle of China as long as there is a project that is productive is not fictitious although it is not very important as long as it is beneficial for the community to be funded by the government. An example is the installation of chips in a tree to measure levels of CO2 and other pollutants. When printing money the project must be layered so that the wheels of the economy spin fast.

It's just that China requires that all raw materials must be made and produced in China (100% made in China) not imported goods, and the workforce must be Chinese people. The project may be worldwide, the value may be fantastic but China will arrange in such a way that Renmimbi will continue to circulate within China but the dollar will enter China. Even when funding infrastructure development in a country within BRI, China also sends its workforce from the level of expert staff to technicians.

Print money made by China is not for consumption, not to pay foreign debt, not for imports but for projects where natural and human resources are in China.
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There is not enough money in the world to help out the poor if you never did that before to begin with. Would Sweden be capable of helping out everyone including companies and every single person during this time of need?

Well, of course they would be capable of doing that, however they were always a social democracy to begin with and they are quite happy to be like that and they are getting help, now they need bigger but they at least had a base to start working with.

Other nations including India and even the bigger ones like usa or uk do not have that because they are full of politicians who are only thinking with their pockets and not their hearts, so to begin now would be way too late and wouldn't be possible because they spent all the taxes on useless stuff to get more money into their pockets to begin with. Hence why printing money is the solution. Also do not consider all money printing with Zimbabwe, USA has been creating more money out of thin air all the time and nothing really happened to them all that bad.
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Nobel Laureate Abhijeet Banerjee has recently asked India to print more money and transfer them to the poor class of people to increase demand in the market to tackle upcoming recession post COVID-19.

Reference: https://m.telegraphindia.com/business/abhijit-banerjee-offers-print-money-pill/cid/1763262

A lot of economists will say it is a bad idea because later it will become very difficult to arrest inflation rate. But increasing the demand is a major challenge as well.

Voice your opinion! Will be good or bad step for a diverse country like India?
Me too I think it is a bad idea to print more money because it will mean so much  money in circulation. This is what causes inflation. If there is more money and India does not have a strong fiscal policy it will mess up the economy and Indians will be the ones to suffer at the end.
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