Topic: node.js coins (Read 1590 times)

NODECOIN IS THE BEST 

Both projects need to properly open source, so they can get community assistance on known problems.  If you de-obfuscate and inspect both you will find some "obvious" oversights.

Node has two critically fatal flaws, as I see it.  The first is related to their build process, which leaves users open to known attacks against nodejs.  (Crypti has some of the same concerns, but is not as directly affected and it is at least easier to circumvent their build and use your own nodejs version.)  The second is related to their implementation of proof-of-activity forging, where a modified version of the client can build a chain of artificial activity offline, and present it to the network to double spend.  I brought the first issue up on their thread, but it never seemed to get addressed, as far as I know.  The second issue has been brought up quite a few times by others, both in their thread and elsewhere, so I haven't approached it.

Node also has another little problem where its ledger does not appear to balance.  In other words, there appears to be a (relatively very very very tiny, heh) surplus of coins with a few having been created out of thin air.  The bug that was used to do this has apparently since been fixed, and the developers claim that no excess coins exist, but as of the last time I scanned their blockchain, a few weeks ago, they were still in there.  I'm concerned that the model may allow for similar bugs.

Crypti appears to be vulnerable to classic "nothing at stake" related attacks, though I haven't really tried modelling an exploit for it. I also haven't done a scan over crypti's ledger because their de-obfuscated code is not as easy to instrument.  This has been on my TODO for some time now.  Crypti's code also appears to be lacking implementation details for some of the features referred to by their team.

It is ironic to me that both of the nodejs coins are trying to do closed, walled garden development.  To think they could even "close" their source in the first place exhibits a basic misunderstanding about the fundamentals of the javascript language (as well as computer science in general, and simply typed lambda calculi specifically) that concerns me.  I've raised the concern of lack of source to both projects, and was basically told where I could shove it, by both, despite even being an active investor.

I've said before: someone should come in with a proper implementation of coin for nodejs, open source and with a focus on actually working correctly instead of trying to implement fancy features, and eat both of their lunches.

(It would not be hard, maybe I will even try to throw something together just to prove the point.)

The approaches of Node vs Crypti have been totally different in terms of how they've arrived in the world. 

Crypti has been a masterclass in how to put a launch and system together.

Node's been pretty chaotic all along but the developers have always delivered in the end. I think it has plenty of unique developments still to come in the future. We'll see whether the wider world picks up on it.

Node whitepaper released a few minutes ago 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDlGZn7sICIA8bUPhe6jPPzGOxA4YgTgi6J4XilFpgs/edit

Well that is something that might be fixed, nothing critical.

Someone else posted this and I agree:

"Technically, the Node wins.
Crypti big and heavy client, takes a lot of memory
Node fast, small blockchain, takes no more than 70 Mb of memory."

Crypti was totally custom made in Node and it has been doing very well since the beginning.It had some very good technological advancements compared to other coins which made it reach the success it did..

Your stance is correct but think about this: NODE is cheaper, more unpredictable, the risk is higher and so are potential revenues. The swings of price may be bigger, so it can be more attractive to many speculators.

Pybc and the upcoming "credits" which has most source already available.

off topic but, are there any pure python coins besides counterparty?

Both XCR and NODE have potential to be huge but they still need to prove themselves first.
It's hard to tell which one or ones will succeed.

No problem bud, happy to help.

all shit scam coins why even bother with this garbage tell me ?


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Thank you very much for the insight. And don't worry I would never invest in a coin without conducting due diligence. Although, comparing my perception of coin x to what others think is helpful in some cases.

Crypti and node seem pretty similar. The main difference is, that node was nearly free for the majority so that there maybe are a lot of sockpuppets dumping, what's creating pressure in price. I think if they succeed in the long run you could make more profit on node, because its cheaper. But that also depends on the devs and their releases...

I honestly don't think, there is much difference between coins in java or in node.js or whatsoever.
The main point is the features and marketing. And I think marketing is more and more important.
Times were changing. You can't just make a coin and everybody in this forum knows it like a year ago. Furthermore there are more and more people involved in coins, that are not related to the crypto community. Stellar and Socialbot are good examples for that.

I have invested in both, but XCR has a leap in front of Node however I think they both have great potential to become a unique coin.

As I mentioned my opinion matters little as I'm an investor myself. But I invested into Crypti for these reasons (there are possibly many more depending on what you prefer)

- Professional Design (Visual) & Great Wallet UI
- Custom Blockchains Support (Releasing Soon)
- Introduction of 3 New PoS Algorithms
- Merchant Support built into core protocol (for better integration with storefronts)
- App Store Inside Wallet (To Be Released after Custom Blockchains) - This paired with Custom Blockchains Support could lead to all kinds of apps being created to function on the Crypti blockchain in the future.

Read the whitepaper (not really a whitepaper, just a write-up) for more info : https://github.com/crypti/whitepaper

If you're looking to invest, I suggest that you do some research into both Crypti & Node and make the decision yourself and not just take my word for it.

What is your personal opinion as to why Crypti is so much better than NODE. (other than the fact you have stake)

Thought I saw 3 or 4 browsing the ann forum. Could be wrong though?

Crypti & NODE are the only current Node.js based coins.

Crypti is a lot better in my opinion, but my opinion would be biased as I am an investor myself.