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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Winning in those are still based on probablility, as by insight and knowledge or a good math head you can make odds work for you. But even if there's a lower probability to lose, that probability is called luck by some people.

So no pure luck, but it's still luck. Compared to casino where you don't have real control, in real world sports or poker, you can control your changes by adjusting probabilities via your skills and knowledge.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

what do you usually do when betting on horse racing or sports betting? maybe as you mean regarding soccer betting. analysis of the two teams? meeting statistics? several injured players? home and away factor? Maybe that's all you can do before you start betting. but we can't completely succeed in getting a win, even when the favorite team is against a team that is in the relegation zone.
for example, the game Cremonese vs Milan a few days ago. Milan ranked 2nd at that time and Cremonese ranked 18th in the standings, the match was dominated by Milan, but they could not score a goal. the match ended in a draw. How many gamblers think the game will end in a draw?
I still think that all gambling games require luck. although still skills are needed. like in a card game.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Sport betting in general requires analytical skill nothing else, you can't win a bet in a soccer if you're a good soccer all you need to be a person who analyse about which team has better chance of winning but the results are completely not in your hand so all you can do is hope for what you predicted will happen.

In casino games skills too needed for example poker, if you play blatantly you will be rekt much sooner.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Do you mean casinos with soccer and horse racing on their platform, there are so many casinos that have these sporting events check the casinos that have these two sports events I am not fond of sporting events but these are two popular sporting events so you just have to look or sign up on popular casinos which included these sports and you'll find them but why only soccer and horse racing are you a bettor of these events.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

In the world of sport and converted in gambling then for sure it will make some good skills in order to win and if you have enough good skill than your opponent then probably you have the chance of winning and this must be the reason why in sport I'll choose the stronger team because we all know that stronger the teaam I bet for then It has a big chance of winning in the end of the game because of their skills .

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

The last time i bet in horses it was virtual horses in Betnomi, they have soccer betting too, and if i'm not wrong, i think stake and roobet have them too.

As you mention those sports are about skills, but soccer is more than that, the good team work is a must to be success, and if a player is on any of those popular teams is because he is really good. I mean all the pleyers on the match have good skills, so, luck still an important fact for the win.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Yes.. I totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as personal skill and experience is a prime factor to winning a soccer or horse game, the presence of luck can't be overemphasized, as it also plays an important role. Moreover, at times you could be the best horse racer in the world, but if you are unlucky to pick an unhealthy horse during a race, irrespective of your skill you wont be able to win such match, and likewise will a good foot all club not able to perform very well without a favorable weather condition during a football match.

So both luck and skill is important

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

if you are looking for a sportsbook, the casino you are advertising is offering sports betting. though I agree that sports betting is not based on luck, you'd still need it since all you can do despite all the information you have is make an educated guess on what the outcome of the game will be.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

If that's what you're asking then also the same thing with poker and sportsbetting. They don't really mostly rely on luck at all and there's really a big difference between those casino games and skill-based games.
What's good with sports betting is that you bet only with a few choices but depending on the game, they can put several options for you to bet with which will require you still with some guessing.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

I like to talk about horse racing its one of the hardest games to predict because of the many factors involved like handicapping, breed, condition of the horse before running, and who is riding the horse, it takes years of analysis and inside info, before you can accurately predict the winning horses or combination of horses that will win in a particular race, but it's worth it once you dig deep on these horses luck is just secondary and most of the times you can accurately predict.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Indeed, not all gambling games are based on luck, but some are skill-based.
The more proficient your skills in analyzing a match, the greater your chances of winning.
But still, you need luck so that the results you predict can still happen because we have seen some matches can turn around beyond our predictions.
Maybe sports betting is a bet that is not based on luck alone but an analysis factor is also needed to be able to choose the right team.

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Quote from: Solosanz on November 11, 2022, 04:17:08 AM

Are you really sure football and horse racing are really require skill in order to win? Can you bet on the next football and horse racing games with the odds more than @2.50, prove me if skill can make you to earn! Actually many people can bet on football and horse racing game, also they're already have their own analysis to judge the possible outcome of the game, but still most gamblers are lose more than win.

if you now take 1$ and go buy a lottery ticket, you just arrive at the place where they sell the lottery ticket and buy the lottery ticket and then you just have to be patient and hope that you are lucky to win the jackpot

But if you take 1$ and enter a sports betting site, you will see many games and with different odds, you have the opportunity to choose the game and then analyze the game (which team had better results in the last 5 games and the worst team between the two teams that will play ) and you bet on the team that you think will win the game based on the analysis you made yourself, that is, if you win it was on merit, it was thanks to your skill and not thanks to luck

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

The only game which require skill for me is Texas holdem poker and everything else is based heavily on luck despite a bit of skill is involved there too.In fact in sport betting you may know very well the teams,may have followed them through many years and you never miss for example a training session of your favorite team,this is skill but when the referee does not give a clear penalty and your team loses against a much weaker team then this is called luck and luck is heavily involved in sport betting because you do not rely on your own like in Texas holdem and for me the only games that cannot be luck based are the ones I take part myself.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Well, in my opinion, i think one still need luck even in games that require skill to win, like in soccer and horse racing that you mentioned, the skill required is knowledge, the gambler have to know some vital stuff about the teams and how they play to be able to predict the out come of a match correctly, also i think knowing how a different teams perform under different weather conditions is also a vital asset as knowledge to have in sports betting.
But even with all this knowledge, you have need some atom of luck to win since knowledge is never enough, because after doing your best in betting with your knowledge, some things can change in the pitch that will utter the result of the game and your prediction.
So personally, i think the role of luck is still very much needed even in skill/knowledge based games/gambling.

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Are you really sure football and horse racing are really require skill in order to win? Can you bet on the next football and horse racing games with the odds more than @2.50, prove me if skill can make you to earn! Actually many people can bet on football and horse racing game, also they're already have their own analysis to judge the possible outcome of the game, but still most gamblers are lose more than win.

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Sports betting. That's basically the sort of gambling you're in if you don't want to rely 100% on luck (I say so since there's still a factor of luck even in those types of events/activities). Outside of sports, I reckon Poker has some form of skill involved but unlike sports, luck is still a highly reliant factor.

You're not participating in the activity itself though just to note, cause if that's what you're looking for then it isn't a gambling site/activity you're looking for anymore, it's a tournament instead. You're not a gambler anymore, but rather a participant instead and you're the one being gambled on instead.

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If it is with money it is a luck based but the difference is that you can have the chance to up yourself on your winning chances like analysing past games, statistics, goals , team fitness like in football and other field events. Some gambling games are based on luck because you have no skill, experience or anything that is attach to it if not to roll or play it which outcome doesn't depend on your research or the analysis that you do for it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

I think you might be wrong about that. All gambling games are probabilistic to their very core. Which is why they are gambling games and not games which can be won by using complex computer algorithms like with chess. So what you call luck is really you being on the less "lucky" side than the actual gambling casino with their built-in house edge. But you definitely could raise your chances of winning if you are skilled enough. Even though you will never be "luckier" than the casino with mentioned house edge. Trying to cheat fate by calling something lucky or unlucky is just psychological. Not a good gambling strategy.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on November 10, 2022, 11:49:19 PM

Is there any gambling project that have a soccer game and horse racing game onboard? I believe that these two genre are not based on luck but skill that's why I ask this question, since most gambling projects have games that are based on luck like roulette and others.

Luck still works. I don't know of any project that has sports and horse racing game onboard but in regular gambling Soccer games and horsing luck also get in. Skills are needed too but sometimes games gets to complicated to predict, even big teams get poor performance too so many who win big get them through luck and less skill

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