Not merit, demerit is the way to go! - page 2.

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Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

You shouldn't be creating content soley just to rank up. You should be making content to contribute something constructive. If you create a thread and it receives no merits so what? If you keep making quality content then you will get the merit eventually but if you're just seeking merit then you're doing it for the wrong reasons and if this causes you to lose motivation then good riddance.

Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

So why don't we think about an demerit system?

Why don't we demerit for spam, off topic, insults or scam attempts and increase thereby the quality of this forum?

If their would be somehow a punishment for bad quality post this would really motivate people to increase their forum behavior.

I would be against everyone being able to demerit as it would be abused by nefarious individuals just demeriting people for saying something they don't like. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for staff to be able to do so instead of just removing threads or temp banning certain individuals for instance when people create a thread like what are you doing for valentines day in Politics & Society. I certainly think if they received minus merit for these sorts of threads they'd get the message pretty fast.

superjeyy

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Activity: 182

Merit: 147

Quote from: Thirio on February 16, 2018, 04:56:18 PM

Merit system is working and better than demerit system(if to be implemented). Why?

1. Because having merit would boost your morale. Because every merit you've received was all from hard work, your hard work. With this, people are recognizing that you have contrbuted something in the forum. I'm sure you'll feel the same way too when you receive one.

2. Because having demerit makes things more difficult. Having negativity on your account would decrease the trust of people who're surrounding you. Do you really want people to picture you with the number of mistakes you have? Plus IMO, if have demerits i would rather not show up in this forum again.

I agree with Thirio. We don't need more negativity in this forum. With people not appreciating the merit system and not choosing to see the good in it, having a demerit system would just worsen the situation even more. The merit system is made to recognize efforts that are deserving. Through the merit system, we get to encourage other members to do better while the demerit system would just let other members bring down the others. We all need to help each other out in making this forum back to its best state.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Vod on February 16, 2018, 04:23:52 PM

Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

We need a few more months yet to determine if the merit system is working.

Yes, and in addition I would say that a creative, informative post is still exactly that--it benefits the community. Whether someone gets a merit point for it or not is secondary. I think lower-ranked members need to start facing up to the reality that it's going to take a lot longer to rank up now, and that not all of their posts (or any, for that matter) are going to be rewarded with merit. These people who are fretting about a lack of reward for all their hard work--these are the ones I envision who would go back to shitposting once they hit legendary and no longer needed to earn merits.

Vod is definitely right. We all need to give the system a chance to play itself out, and people need to realize that this forum isn't like it was a month ago with respect to ranking up. The forum has had a huge problem with spam and garbage posts, and as frustrating as it is to newbies, this system is a(n overdue) response to that.

lord munchkin

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Activity: 56

Merit: 7

Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

Hey Guys,

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

Why? Simply because they are quite a lot very brilliant posts in this forum (especially in the local forums) which are not merited at all (not even 1 point). If you then see that they are a lot of free merit / scam threads this really dumps your motivation in creating serious content in this forum - cause its simply unfair.

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

So why don't we think about an demerit system?

Why don't we demerit for spam, off topic, insults or scam attempts and increase thereby the quality of this forum?

If their would be somehow a punishment for bad quality post this would really motivate people to increase their forum behavior.

I am exited how you think about that.

People prefer rewards instead of punishments...

BluberryBTC

jr. member

Activity: 52

Merit: 4

Merits add a little bit of competition to this forum and I think that's cool. I agree with Vod, we should keep the system running for a while and check to see if spam is decreasing and post quality is increasing.

KWH

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Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

Hey Guys,

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

Why? Simply because they are quite a lot very brilliant posts in this forum (especially in the local forums) which are not merited at all (not even 1 point). If you then see that they are a lot of free merit / scam threads this really dumps your motivation in creating serious content in this forum - cause its simply unfair.

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

So why don't we think about an demerit system?

Why don't we demerit for spam, off topic, insults or scam attempts and increase thereby the quality of this forum?

If their would be somehow a punishment for bad quality post this would really motivate people to increase their forum behavior.

I am exited how you think about that.

Why the urgent need rank up? Do you need rank to participate here?
Quality? Were you around 5+ years ago to have something to compare to?
Where are these post you cited, please link to them so they will be considered for Merit.
Be excited to be in this community by contributing, not needing to rank up.

Almody

member

Activity: 259

Merit: 34

Thanks to the author for mentioning the local branches, I write mostly in them! They will never be given proper attention! And it's very difficult to motivate yourself realizing that your efforts are almost never appreciated! But at the same time I hope that the Merit system is able to change this situation! To make it happen people should have smerit at least !

maeusi

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 254

Instead of suggesting negative feedback (demerit), you could post the links to the high quality posts, that are still unmerited. That would be helpful for sources and those, who still have sMerits for spending.

xianbits

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Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

Hey Guys,

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

Why? Simply because they are quite a lot very brilliant posts in this forum (especially in the local forums) which are not merited at all (not even 1 point). If you then see that they are a lot of free merit / scam threads this really dumps your motivation in creating serious content in this forum - cause its simply unfair.

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

So why don't we think about an demerit system?

Why don't we demerit for spam, off topic, insults or scam attempts and increase thereby the quality of this forum?

If their would be somehow a punishment for bad quality post this would really motivate people to increase their forum behavior.

I am exited how you think about that.

If the merit system is not working for you, then demerit system is worse for me.
It is more prone to abuse in a world where it is more easy to criticize than to appreciate.
I'm good with the merit system. I also believe it would take some more time to be as functional as what it is supposed to be.

Thirio

member

Activity: 350

Merit: 47

Merit system is working and better than demerit system(if to be implemented). Why?

1. Because having merit would boost your morale. Because every merit you've received was all from hard work, your hard work. With this, people are recognizing that you have contrbuted something in the forum. I'm sure you'll feel the same way too when you receive one.

2. Because having demerit makes things more difficult. Having negativity on your account would decrease the trust of people who're surrounding you. Do you really want people to picture you with the number of mistakes you have? Plus IMO, if have demerits i would rather not show up in this forum again.

MissionPhailed

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Activity: 583

Merit: 503

Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

If you then see that they are a lot of free merit / scam threads this really dumps your motivation in creating serious content in this forum - cause its simply unfair.

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

I personally think that merits should be viewed as a convenient byproduct of constructive activity on BCT instead of the main focus. That said, the implementation of a de-merit system would actually be pretty neat. It would reduce the verbal junk throughout BCT even further.

TheBeardedBaby

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You have to give little more time to the merit system. You cannot expect to be 100% efficient from day 0. There are more merit sources now and many new applications.
Regarding the de-merit and what you suggest is more like the trust system we have now. De-merit options have to be given to the merit sources. They already distribute the merit and it will be good if they can punish the merit abuses.

Vod

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Quote from: chrisrok on February 16, 2018, 03:51:21 PM

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

We need a few more months yet to determine if the merit system is working.

Jet Cash

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If I got some demerits for posts that I thought were reasonable, then I'd probably walk away from the forum. People would award demerits out of jealousy and spite, and not because of post quality.

chrisrok

member

Activity: 134

Merit: 12

Hey Guys,

The new merit system is not working properly and I think this can be quite dangerous for the quality of this forum.

Why? Simply because they are quite a lot very brilliant posts in this forum (especially in the local forums) which are not merited at all (not even 1 point). If you then see that they are a lot of free merit / scam threads this really dumps your motivation in creating serious content in this forum - cause its simply unfair.

Now consider there is a newbie who affords lot of time in creating some nice content in order to rank up, not merited at all. What do you think the motivation of this guy is going? Do you think he is gonna try this again?

So why don't we think about an demerit system?

Why don't we demerit for spam, off topic, insults or scam attempts and increase thereby the quality of this forum?

If their would be somehow a punishment for bad quality post this would really motivate people to increase their forum behavior.

I am exited how you think about that.

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