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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 16, 2022, 05:56:17 PM

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It's very easy to control people when you have them in constant state of fear and hating others, so you can impose global changes much easier.

That sort of reminds me of a book I read a while back....can't remember the name....has numbers in the title....Big Brother something....anyone know what I'm talking about?

Orwell's '1984' comes to mind. Is that what you meant?

Unless this is sarcasm that I find difficult to detect, because, after all, this is the most famous dystopian novel in the history of literature ...

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on March 12, 2022, 06:54:20 PM

Advo82 woke up today to make that post after a 4-year break, which means the account could have been compromised, and they were trying to carry out the now common Ukrainian War donation scam.

I'd be willing to bet it's not a hacked account but an alt that was created during the 2017 boom in order to participate in as many bounties/sig campaigns as possible. I haven't looked at the statistics as far as how many new accounts were created in 2017, but I'm pretty sure that was a banner year in that category. The person who owns the Advo82 account most likely is using a primary account to post with (if he's currently active on the forum), and if not then perhaps he resurrected himself in order to create that thread. Who knows?

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 14, 2022, 05:32:54 AM

It's very easy to control people when you have them in constant state of fear and hating others, so you can impose global changes much easier.

That sort of reminds me of a book I read a while back....can't remember the name....has numbers in the title....Big Brother something....anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 12, 2022, 07:38:28 PM

For me it's nothing more than poor scam attempt. First of all, begging isn't allowed here and it definitely don't looks like proper donation campaign.
And yeah, death threaths isn't allowed here, even if we talk about Putin. And I'm not really sure how donating money to random ''lawyer'' can help to take Putin off. Maybe he had to offer bounty for Putin's head.

Begging in the forum is unacceptable and there's no way that this one is legit and will gain sympathy because the goal for the donations is simply injustice to human rights. I guess only fools will end up believing and donating in here. And whether he's a lawyer or not, he has no right to take Putin head's off. Leave it to the government because they know exactly how to take Putin out from his position.

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Quote from: KingsDen on March 15, 2022, 11:54:31 AM

Quote from: Coyster on March 13, 2022, 03:00:30 PM

Honestly i think it was deleted because it was clearly a scam...

I don't think it was deleted on the bases of scam. We know scam is not moderated here, no matter how obvious. I can say that the more obvious a scam is, the less harmful to people, because it will likely receive no victim(s).
It can be that it was deleted for threat to life or indirectly placing bounty on Putin. The forum does not promote violence or war.

People that puts up this kind of post, how are they being disciplined apart from merely deleting the post.

Totally agree with you, the post was deleted due to threat to life, in as much as we are not happy with the current situation of things going on between Russia and Ukraine, it's still inappropriate to request people donate money for an assassination on a human life, it's better to allow the law take its course at the end of the day.
Though I strongly believe the post was purely a scam attempt, but it's good it's been deleted by moderators, and I also suggest the poster be sanctioned or punished So as to deter other members with such mindsets from making such post again.

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Quote from: Coyster on March 13, 2022, 03:00:30 PM

Honestly i think it was deleted because it was clearly a scam...

I don't think it was deleted on the bases of scam. We know scam is not moderated here, no matter how obvious. I can say that the more obvious a scam is, the less harmful to people, because it will likely receive no victim(s).
It can be that it was deleted for threat to life or indirectly placing bounty on Putin. The forum does not promote violence or war.

People that puts up this kind of post, how are they being disciplined apart from merely deleting the post.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 12, 2022, 07:38:28 PM

For me it's nothing more than poor scam attempt. First of all, begging isn't allowed here and it definitely don't looks like proper donation campaign.
And yeah, death threaths isn't allowed here, even if we talk about Putin. And I'm not really sure how donating money to random ''lawyer'' can help to take Putin off. Maybe he had to offer bounty for Putin's head.

That's kinda joke. It's either he will be the one taken off by Putin if the latter knows this. This is very clear that this so called "lawyer" was trying to scam all those who will fall for his own strategy. A knowledgeable person won't definitely fall for this because the purpose itself for the donations is very unacceptable. No one has the right to take Putin off without passing any legal procedures. Thus, only fools will fall for this.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 14, 2022, 03:36:06 AM

OP, you should edit your title. I guess you wanted to write "Not sure is if the thread is legal"

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on March 12, 2022, 06:50:42 PM

Anyone wants to know what the post was exactly about can see that on Loyce.club.

Anyone who tells you there aren't a scammer without being asked first is obviously a scammer. It's the same way I don't let down my guard when someone I'm meeting for the first time tells me they're good. Nobody with a nice heart tells you they're good natured without no one asking them. Good a thing the thread was taken down. It was a mischievous one schemed to scam the community.

Fixed title thank you.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on March 14, 2022, 03:16:27 AM

How allowing aggression in this way will help solving the problem? It only creates hate and more innocent will be harmed then help the current situation in any way.

It's almost like someone intentionally wanted to create chaos and violence all around the world, using politician puppets and social media from both sides using attacks like this.
It's very easy to control people when you have them in constant state of fear and hating others, so you can impose global changes much easier.
Maybe I just watched to much Star Wars movies, and events in last few years are totally unrelated.

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OP, you should edit your title. I guess you wanted to write "Not sure is if the thread is legal"

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on March 12, 2022, 06:50:42 PM

Anyone wants to know what the post was exactly about can see that on Loyce.club.

Anyone who tells you there aren't a scammer without being asked first is obviously a scammer. It's the same way I don't let down my guard when someone I'm meeting for the first time tells me they're good. Nobody with a nice heart tells you they're good natured without no one asking them. Good a thing the thread was taken down. It was a mischievous one schemed to scam the community.

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That's good that was removed. At least the forum's policy is not like the facebook's (or meta or whatever it is now) one and hope will never be.

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How allowing aggression in this way will help solving the problem? It only creates hate and more innocent will be harmed then help the current situation in any way.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 12, 2022, 06:57:19 PM

However it seems the rule broken was "no begging" and there is a really dumb part on this request...

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(donation will receive the hero's family or the hero who will do this)

Yes why not Roll Eyes

I think the main rule broken was also the number 8

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8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

since in any case, legal or not legal, good or bad, this should not posted here on forum...

Right. The post very clearly violated the no begging rule, and was making an implied threat to a specific person.

In these cases, it is usually best to report these posts to the moderators.

Quote from: Upgrade00 on March 13, 2022, 03:33:51 PM

It was clearly a scam attempt and a poorly executed one, but that would not have been the reason the thread was deleted as scams are not moderated by the forum, regardless of how obvious it turns out to be; Many members are rather not convinced by that rule, but that is what it is.

The mods could have found whatever other reason to ban the post for as it broke more than one rule.

I think it is probably more likely the post was an attempt to troll. I don't think many people would be willing to risk trying to "eliminate" Putin for the hope of receiving some crypto.

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I checked his account that is still not banned, and there are no usual signs of hacked account with changed passwords, but he was inactive for years before making this post.
On the other hand, looking at his post history this account seem to be originally from Ukraine, but making elimination post is event deserving a ban.
Same thing happened when humanrightsfoundation was sending death threats to theymos and other people.

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Quote from: Coyster on March 13, 2022, 03:00:30 PM

Honestly i think it was deleted because it was clearly a scam,

It was clearly a scam attempt and a poorly executed one, but that would not have been the reason the thread was deleted as scams are not moderated by the forum, regardless of how obvious it turns out to be; Many members are rather not convinced by that rule, but that is what it is.

The mods could have found whatever other reason to ban the post for as it broke more than one rule.

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Honestly i think it was deleted because it was clearly a scam, there is already an address for people who want to donate to Ukraine in this hard time, so the OP basically wanted to use the current happenings in Ukraine to scam unsuspecting people, though it is a poorly orchestrated one if i am to be honest; i say it was deleted because it was an obvious scam cause i feel it still would have been deleted if the OP didn't include donations for the 'elimination of putin'. I really doubt anyone would have fallen for that, but using the current sufferings of the Ukrainian people to try to make money is really 'disgusting' to say the least.

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With the current situation and helping the discourse, I hope the laws will be updated or clearly clarified regarding fundraising campaigns, incitement against violence and other things related to what is happening recently.
Generally why was the topic deleted? Is it because of hate calls or because of donations or why?
And why was the user not banned if the reason was rule number 8?

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I agree that this is probably just a scam attempt. They are taking advantage of the news that are happening and thinks that it's going to work or something. Also, having a threat over life is a serious offense for sure, wherever you are in the world. It should be monitored or something.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 12, 2022, 06:57:19 PM

I think the main rule broken was also the number 8

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8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

since in any case, legal or not legal, good or bad, this should not posted here on forum...

if this is the rule that was broken shouldn't the account that posted it be banned? at least, as far as I know, death threats are a bannable offense here in the forum. although I am not sure if there is a condition(i.e. the person who received the death thread is a member here in the forum.) that needs to be met in order for someone who made that death threat to be banned.

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For me it's nothing more than poor scam attempt. First of all, begging isn't allowed here and it definitely don't looks like proper donation campaign.
And yeah, death threaths isn't allowed here, even if we talk about Putin. And I'm not really sure how donating money to random ''lawyer'' can help to take Putin off. Maybe he had to offer bounty for Putin's head.

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However it seems the rule broken was "no begging" and there is a really dumb part on this request...

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(donation will receive the hero's family or the hero who will do this)

Yes why not Roll Eyes

I think the main rule broken was also the number 8

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8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

since in any case, legal or not legal, good or bad, this should not posted here on forum...

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Definitely not allowed as it has already been deleted by the mods.

To keep track of the user who posted:
Here is the archive of the thread: https://ninjastic.space/topic/5389441

User : Advo82

Advo82 woke up today to make that post after a 4-year break, which means the account could have been compromised, and they were trying to carry out the now common Ukrainian War donation scam.

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