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August 31, 2017, 02:48:37 AM
#76
Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

Here's the problem. Core developers (most Bitcoin developers) don't see it as an improvement, and actively oppose the fork. So, if the Segwit2x team and the miners/businesses backing them really move forward with the fork, then the FUD is warranted.

This isn't like a soft fork where a simple majority of miners can prevent a split from occurring. A hard fork "upgrade" requires that every user installs new software and joins a new network. That means a split is guaranteed already. Add the fact that Core and many BTC users don't support Segwit2x? Get your popcorn ready.
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August 31, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
#75
Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all  Grin
Well said man!
There have never been so many altcoins around like these days (and I don't want to countless ICO tokens which are also on the stage). What I see at the top is Bitcoin nothing else.
Actually, I wonder where the flippening went  Grin
These altcoins may not have had success in the past, but that doesn't mean that they can't grow into a formidable opponent for Bitcoin in time. 
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August 31, 2017, 01:58:14 AM
#74
November will be a harsh month for Bitcoin, especially after Bitcoin Cash announced its' technology development plan.
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August 31, 2017, 01:54:14 AM
#73
November is the for the activation of segwit2x on bitcoins network, it will makes real testing for bitcoins, is it will makes bitcoins to be better or it will makes bad for bitcoins due to everything can be happened to bitcoins network include crash of network although the activation of segwit2x is bug fixing scaling problem but the risk of it is bitcoins network crashing, so we must think about the bad and good posibility on bitcoins.
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August 31, 2017, 01:46:30 AM
#72
If you want to invest in Bitcoins, do it now, no matter what. When you look back at the last split, when Bitcoin Cash came out, lots of investors thought Bitcoin would decrease in price but the opposite happened and look where it is now. It's raising from one all time high to the next.

Even if there is another split in November, Bitcoin will stay the main chain. There were so many other splits in the past and the original main chain gets stronger and stronger every time. And what should you do if the price crashes unexpected? Buy more Bitcoins when they are cheap.  Grin
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August 31, 2017, 01:37:42 AM
#71
if everything goes on fine with bitcoin in november, the price could shoot up to $7000-8000 range. December is traditionally very strong month for bitcoin.

What's your definition of "fine?"

Since the November fork is a hard fork, it will cause a split from the original network. If the entire ecosystem migrates to Segwit2x, there will be no split, but that seems unlikely. If the fork happens and there is significant support for both chains, I think this could have a very negative effect on price. It's impossible to predict, though.

You've meant to say if the split happens, right?

Since soft as well as hard forks themselves don't necessarily imply there should be a split. Further, why do you think that it is unlikely that the whole Bitcoin world (well, apart from the Bitcoin Cash part obviously, though who knows) is going to migrate to SegWit2x? Yes, this whole initiative is rather political shenanigans of the NY agreement participants, and Bitcoin Core developers may refuse to update the client to the 2x part in the end but we haven't yet heard any definitive statement on their part regarding this issue
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August 31, 2017, 01:21:28 AM
#70
Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all  Grin
Well said man!
There have never been so many altcoins around like these days (and I don't want to countless ICO tokens which are also on the stage). What I see at the top is Bitcoin nothing else.
Actually, I wonder where the flippening went  Grin
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August 30, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
#69
Sorry but I dont believe it will dip that deep.  Cheesy
Even with events that will happen it can rise.
Remember ETF was rejected and yet the price went up.
BU came and yet the price went up again.
BCH is here and yet the price stayed like this for a long time .
The highest dip would be just 200 to 300 dollars and thats it.
Brace yourself with the BER months. You might want to have some bitcoin before that.
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August 30, 2017, 07:39:47 PM
#68
Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

It doesn't matter, and yet it really does because it can affect the way the people who haven't drank the Kool-Aid yet view things. Right now, people are either seeing a new technology taking off, or a bubble that's about to pop, and either way they're interested. Some want to get in early and ride it to the top, and some want to get in early and cash out before it blows up, but either way it has a lot of momentum. More forks create more uncertainty. Even if it's not actually a fork but just an alteration of the technology by a consensus, it causes some uncertainty; a real hardfork, where a large portion of the miners go in a different direction, could be far worse. Some people were saying that they recommended not initiating any transactions with Bitcoin for two weeks after the soft fork, but most people ignored that and went on with business as usual after a day or two. If it actually took two weeks or a month for people to start using Bitcoin again, that would slow the momentum down significantly; or worse yet if a hard fork and patchy adoption of technology actually made a lot of people flat-out lose their coins it wouldn't be easy to recover. People got past Mt. Gox, but that was with much lower value in Bitcoin and was also only one bad actor. A slight mistake in a hardfork costing billions with no possibility of reimbursement, since there's no central agency... well, right now we're seeing institutional investors very interested in Bitcoin, but at the first appearance that the technology is flawed a lot of potential investors might be heading for the hills. Of course, it might also just cause another buying frenzy once the sharks see all that red ink in the water. Tongue I'm glad that you have faith, but in my experience nothing is certain. You might say I'm absolutely certain that nothing is certain, actually...
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August 30, 2017, 07:15:56 PM
#67
Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.
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August 30, 2017, 06:57:53 PM
#66
I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.


we can change the way people look at the fee value , with bitcoin price recently it's indeed only give benefit to the early miner , $5 as a fee might mean nothing. but to those people who bought bitcoin lately i don't think so , i would think twice before sending a transaction with that high fee. the slow network should be done before december , otherwise a lot of people could suffering and lost their interest to invest more in bitcoin even leaving.
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August 30, 2017, 06:37:58 PM
#65
for me, I do not think about it, which is important for me to have bitcoin and sell it as necessary as the rest I save.Because the incident of 1st of August proves that bitcoin remains the number 1 of the from other altcoin.
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August 30, 2017, 06:22:34 PM
#64
If there will be hardfork the price will fall down again, no matter how well people understand about this, it will affected the Bitcoin price, the forking in Aug made Bitcoin  price slide down to 3800$, it is hard to predict what will be the price this time but it won't be fall down lower than 4000$ and if it is successful then we will see 7000$
soy
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August 30, 2017, 05:44:57 PM
#63
I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.


I expect vais versa in November long time from now a head i speculate bitcoin price will test 7000 $ at that time , Donate some money if i am correct then .

Ahah everyone predicts the course of the bitcoin at this level there, I do not see what it is exceptional there in lol!
Wet a little and predicted a BTC to 100,000 $ in 2020 and there I will congratulate you!
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August 30, 2017, 05:28:04 PM
#62
I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.


I expect vais versa in November long time from now a head i speculate bitcoin price will test 7000 $ at that time , Donate some money if i am correct then .
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August 30, 2017, 05:23:26 PM
#61
I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.

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August 30, 2017, 05:20:23 PM
#60
Even I was reading about the same that it can happen . But based in that I would not change the decision of buying Btc now beacuse considering the 1st Aug  event price has only risen. It has reached to 4600 $ so if Btc is pit to test it only rises mostly . This keep buying now and sell later at good gains rather than just regretting later if not buying Btc at lower rates .

I think this is the best decision for you, because by the way you make a decision like this, you will not get caught in the risk of big loss to buy BTC for a high price, maybe you should see BTC development first. Next you can decide which is right for you to buy BTC. Cheesy
It depends on you if you have to buy btc at this rate. I think there is a fluctuation of btc on November and I can see the price will be high than today. Though we can't predict the actual price may happen after segwit.
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August 30, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
#59
Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all  Grin
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August 30, 2017, 05:14:09 PM
#58
if everything goes on fine with bitcoin in november, the price could shoot up to $7000-8000 range. December is traditionally very strong month for bitcoin.

What's your definition of "fine?"

Since the November fork is a hard fork, it will cause a split from the original network. If the entire ecosystem migrates to Segwit2x, there will be no split, but that seems unlikely. If the fork happens and there is significant support for both chains, I think this could have a very negative effect on price. It's impossible to predict, though.
soy
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August 30, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
#57
Do not panic sell as many will do ...

November may lead to a slight decline that will be corrected immediately. Take advantage to buy btc if you are fast enough, but, the course of the btc will not collapse permanently. The best is to touch nothing, to leave the storm past and then it will be directly to the moon!
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