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And it was this guy – Tokyo whale and Mt.Gox bankrutpcy trustee who sold almost $400 million worth of BTC, some of it at the very bottom on Feb 6th. He crashed the market by 75% by selling the bitcoins in couple of rounds.

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The MT Gox trustee has sold half a billion worth of bitcoin and bitcoin cash between December 2017 and February 2018 it was revealed today.

He sold the first batch of 6k bitcoin on December 22nd, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800. Then he waited for market to recover and sold another batch of 8k bitcoins on January 17th. Which again produced the same effect – crashed the bitcoin price.

But he is not done yet – he does another sell on January 31st, this time it was around 6k bitcoins. But vast majority of bitcoins was sold on February 6th which implies that he actually tried to crash the market by selling at the bottom.

And guess what – the market absorbed it and jumped back up to $10k.

But what is worrisome is that this same guy has another 180k BTC up his sleeves, that he is looking to sell in the upcoming period and repay the creditors and users who lost their bitcoin in Mt.Gox hack.

This case makes it the fourth time for Mt.Gox to directly or indirectly crash the bitcoin price. First time was hack in 2011, then a DDos in 2013, 2014 is when they went bankrupt and now this sell off.

And as we have said, this trustee has another 180k bitcoins that will probably cause similar crash – that would be 5th or even 6th if he does it in separate batches.

Nevertheless, bitcoin has showed admirable resilience in spite of all the sell offs and this actually indicates that once Mt.Gox saga is over, bitcoin price should skyrocket and reach new highs as many have predicted.


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Can I have links from where you have learned those? This topic seems very interesting because now we can know who the whales are. I believe that bitcoin will still skyrocket because their saga will be coming into an end. Plus, two whales cannot simply crash the whole bitcoin market because it has a very strong foundation. These sell offs should be prohibited since it poses as a threat into many users worldwide and it should be considered illegal. I wonder how where they able to exchange that huge amount of bitcoin without experiencing any problems because an exchange like that is very rare and hackers might be able to interrupt.
This news is really truthful, everyone says this.
How can you prohibit a person from selling, then what belongs to him (in this case bitcoins)? The restriction can only be made by the exchange on which he sold the bitcoins.
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These are the first news that I have heard about the connection of the movements that Bitcoin has experienced since December with Mt.Gox. What I knew was that the investigation for the bitcoin theft is still ongoing, and that since last November more news are appearing.

You can find the information in this article: https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-mess-that-was-mt-gox-four-years-on

On the other hand, the article above is also talking about experts “suggesting” that the recent price drop of Bitcoin is related with a Mt.Gox trustee. There is some links related along the article that maybe you can check. I also find this one on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/82m0dl/mtgox_trustee_has_sold_some_btc_and_bch/dvbbiot/

I don’t know it some of you guys can put bit of more light on these theories...
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so he has about 180 000  out of 21 000 000 ?

180 k out of 21 million.
wow he still has 8% of All Bitcoins !

180k/21000k= 0.8% not 8%
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And it was this guy – Tokyo whale and Mt.Gox bankrutpcy trustee who sold almost $400 million worth of BTC, some of it at the very bottom on Feb 6th. He crashed the market by 75% by selling the bitcoins in couple of rounds.

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The MT Gox trustee has sold half a billion worth of bitcoin and bitcoin cash between December 2017 and February 2018 it was revealed today.

He sold the first batch of 6k bitcoin on December 22nd, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800. Then he waited for market to recover and sold another batch of 8k bitcoins on January 17th. Which again produced the same effect – crashed the bitcoin price.

But he is not done yet – he does another sell on January 31st, this time it was around 6k bitcoins. But vast majority of bitcoins was sold on February 6th which implies that he actually tried to crash the market by selling at the bottom.

And guess what – the market absorbed it and jumped back up to $10k.

But what is worrisome is that this same guy has another 180k BTC up his sleeves, that he is looking to sell in the upcoming period and repay the creditors and users who lost their bitcoin in Mt.Gox hack.

This case makes it the fourth time for Mt.Gox to directly or indirectly crash the bitcoin price. First time was hack in 2011, then a DDos in 2013, 2014 is when they went bankrupt and now this sell off.

And as we have said, this trustee has another 180k bitcoins that will probably cause similar crash – that would be 5th or even 6th if he does it in separate batches.

Nevertheless, bitcoin has showed admirable resilience in spite of all the sell offs and this actually indicates that once Mt.Gox saga is over, bitcoin price should skyrocket and reach new highs as many have predicted.


Opinions?
Can I have links from where you have learned those? This topic seems very interesting because now we can know who the whales are. I believe that bitcoin will still skyrocket because their saga will be coming into an end. Plus, two whales cannot simply crash the whole bitcoin market because it has a very strong foundation. These sell offs should be prohibited since it poses as a threat into many users worldwide and it should be considered illegal. I wonder how where they able to exchange that huge amount of bitcoin without experiencing any problems because an exchange like that is very rare and hackers might be able to interrupt.
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I read about Mt. Gox on few platforms and they stated that he still has 1.8 billion worth bitcoin. If he dumps a big batch of his bitcoin again then we might see bitcoin falling below may be below $5k mark. Still bitcoin have the tendency to grow and even after he dumps all his coin bitcoin will surely reach its all high mark gain but it will take time.

Apart from this the fall in bitcoin price in this week was also due to 2 more news. One the issue of hacking with Binance and second the policy of SEC which wants exchanges to get them self registered. Still hoping for the best.

I wonder how many bitcoins does he has to make an impact on the price of bitcoin.  I believe there were still a lot of people who are owning greater value of bitcoin than what he have.  As to the topic you brought out, yes I believe that bitcoin price crashed because of these reasons.  I am still hoping for the best and believe that bitcoin price will goes up again.
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I read about Mt. Gox on few platforms and they stated that he still has 1.8 billion worth bitcoin. If he dumps a big batch of his bitcoin again then we might see bitcoin falling below may be below $5k mark. Still bitcoin have the tendency to grow and even after he dumps all his coin bitcoin will surely reach its all high mark gain but it will take time.

Apart from this the fall in bitcoin price in this week was also due to 2 more news. One the issue of hacking with Binance and second the policy of SEC which wants exchanges to get them self registered. Still hoping for the best.
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The sale of just 20,000 bitcoins caused such a large drop in the crypto-currency market? If this guy has another 180,000 bitcoins, then he still puts us in trouble with the price of crypto currency. It seems that the further growth of the bitcoin course will not be cloudless.

It's just FUD. This poor lawyer didn't cause the crash.

Also - there was nothing stopping people from placing buy orders around the $6000 point. If they had they'd be up by at least 33% up.
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The sale of just 20,000 bitcoins caused such a large drop in the crypto-currency market? If this guy has another 180,000 bitcoins, then he still puts us in trouble with the price of crypto currency. It seems that the further growth of the bitcoin course will not be cloudless.
that's almost half of the market cap we have today i don't know about the truth of this news but if it's true i don't know if it such a bad thing because as long as there is buyers there is sellers and i dont think the new holders would dump bitcoin like that guy did

You guys are not very good with numbers.

They sold 35,841.00701 BTC
They still have 166,344.35827254 BTC
There are 16,908,213 BTC mined at the time of writing.

How the hell do you make 166k half of market cap?
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The sale of just 20,000 bitcoins caused such a large drop in the crypto-currency market? If this guy has another 180,000 bitcoins, then he still puts us in trouble with the price of crypto currency. It seems that the further growth of the bitcoin course will not be cloudless.
that's almost half of the market cap we have today i don't know about the truth of this news but if it's true i don't know if it such a bad thing because as long as there is buyers there is sellers and i dont think the new holders would dump bitcoin like that guy did
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The sale of just 20,000 bitcoins caused such a large drop in the crypto-currency market? If this guy has another 180,000 bitcoins, then he still puts us in trouble with the price of crypto currency. It seems that the further growth of the bitcoin course will not be cloudless.
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He is pretty dumb to sell at $6k when he could have sold those Bitcoins for at least above $10k OTC. Don't know how such people are even assigned tasks where they don't have any knowledge of the field.

Why do you think he sold at $6k?

Don't know how people are even assigned tasks when they believe everything that some random person writes on a public forum.

I didn't have time to check this yesterday bit as the numbers are clearly stated in the official document I have now checked.

35841.00701BTC sold for 38,231,389,537 JPY
1 JPY = 0.0094 USD so 38,231,389,537 JPY = 359,375,061.60 USD

So the average sale price was 10,026.92 USD, not the 6k claimed.
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I heard about it too! Unfortunately, the negative news about Binance and this sale of bitcoins had an impact on the Crypto currency market and further lowered prices. We look forward to the early restoration of the market.
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If he decides to dump that many coins to crash the market he is not doing himself any favours, especially if he is holding a lot more bitcoins. It could actually be a good thing in the long run. It means wider distribution and at a lower price to introduce new blood into crypto
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Roger Vers friend probably. Or had his life threatened by friends of the federal reserve. Nothing quite like an effort to crash the currency and create fear.
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And it was this guy – Tokyo whale and Mt.Gox bankrutpcy trustee who sold almost $400 million worth of BTC, some of it at the very bottom on Feb 6th. He crashed the market by 75% by selling the bitcoins in couple of rounds.

3.



The MT Gox trustee has sold half a billion worth of bitcoin and bitcoin cash between December 2017 and February 2018 it was revealed today.

He sold the first batch of 6k bitcoin on December 22nd, sending price from nearly $16,000 to a brief low of $10,800. Then he waited for market to recover and sold another batch of 8k bitcoins on January 17th. Which again produced the same effect – crashed the bitcoin price.

But he is not done yet – he does another sell on January 31st, this time it was around 6k bitcoins. But vast majority of bitcoins was sold on February 6th which implies that he actually tried to crash the market by selling at the bottom.

And guess what – the market absorbed it and jumped back up to $10k.

But what is worrisome is that this same guy has another 180k BTC up his sleeves, that he is looking to sell in the upcoming period and repay the creditors and users who lost their bitcoin in Mt.Gox hack.

This case makes it the fourth time for Mt.Gox to directly or indirectly crash the bitcoin price. First time was hack in 2011, then a DDos in 2013, 2014 is when they went bankrupt and now this sell off.

And as we have said, this trustee has another 180k bitcoins that will probably cause similar crash – that would be 5th or even 6th if he does it in separate batches.

Nevertheless, bitcoin has showed admirable resilience in spite of all the sell offs and this actually indicates that once Mt.Gox saga is over, bitcoin price should skyrocket and reach new highs as many have predicted.


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Why don't he send the people the company owes Bitcoins itself so that he doesn't crash the currency and i would also like to know the motive behind him wanting to crush Bitcoin am sure he favors another cryptocurrency thats why he is doing that.
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This is interesting news, if it is true. It sounds like it is partially true, but the idea that one whale (other than Satoshi Nakamoto), could crash the market them self is a bit far-fetched. We were hitting a very strong technical downpoint and yes, maybe this guy added a lot of fuel to the fire, but if he was selling hard at the bottom he obviously wasn't crashing the market. The market recovered from $6k so I am not sure where you are going with your argument. It is more like "Whale sells alot at $6k. Doesn't manage to make market go down further."
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He is pretty dumb to sell at $6k when he could have sold those Bitcoins for at least above $10k OTC. Don't know how such people are even assigned tasks where they don't have any knowledge of the field.

Why do you think he sold at $6k?

Don't know how people are even assigned tasks when they believe everything that some random person writes on a public forum.


Yes, today I read that Article.

What article?

I haven't seen any links to any article that states what the OP is saying?  It sounds like a lot of FUD right now.


Yes I read about this a few days ago.
This guy is a Market Crasher lol.

Where did you read this a few days ago?

I haven't seen any links to any article that states what the OP is saying?  It sounds like a lot of FUD right now.
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Correct.  And ALL of those could have been sold in November.  Or in March. Or spread evenly every day between November and March. Or any other possible arrangement of sell orders and any number of exchanges.

The OP is making sensationalist claims that these bitcoins were specifically sold in specific amounts on dates when the market took a significant dip.  He is claiming that the dip is directly because of the selling of those bitcoins.

I've seen no believable evidence that the OP's claims are anything more than his own wild imagination.

As a trader, I can confirm that is what moves markets   Grin

But more seriously a little of the movement today probably is related to the release of that document yesterday.
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He is pretty dumb to sell at $6k when he could have sold those Bitcoins for at least above $10k OTC. Don't know how such people are even assigned tasks where they don't have any knowledge of the field.
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So there's absolutely no evidence of exactly who the guy is, how much he cashed out, or at what rate he sold them out.

I really don't think one person cashing out $400 million in bitcoin would even crash the market considering that the daily volume is in the tens of billions.

$400 million would make a huge difference when it's all at once and in once direction. If you ever watched the markets you could see that. It takes not much more than 10m to move the market a lot in one direction or another. The 400m is not in isolation either, there will be large knock on effects.
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