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legendary
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November 24, 2014, 09:50:07 AM
#29
every 4-6 weeks another 'bitcoin is NSA thread pops up'.  very doubtful it is true and even if it is, it doesn't matter.
hero member
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November 24, 2014, 09:31:20 AM
#28
I really doubt they're behind bitcoin, though if they were it would help the CIA launder all their money earned from the global drug trade Smiley

There are lots of conspiracy theories regarding btc, most of them can be considered bullshit tin foilery


sr. member
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November 24, 2014, 09:20:51 AM
#27
You sound like quite the tyrant. Yes, there are lots of people who contribute nothing to the world and make you lose faith in humanity sometimes, but I bet there's vastly more than the 1% that have contributed more than you.


Yeah over 100 books and having a few laws of math and physics named for me means nothing plus giving the morons named humans a real plan to have global clean free energy within a generation is nothing and forming a university and creating the OS that will actually run AI robots, is nothing.

10K years from now my name will be known, you are forgotten within 10 minutes of your death like the 99.9% that did NOTHING on this planet, the reason I'm a misanthrope is I know humanity and I'm steering it so it survives what's coming. Without me humanity would be terminated within the next generation from what's coming.

Mappo is near and I'm JOGYO



Lol. You've authored over a 100 books or you've read 100 books or what? Give me your name so we can see how revolutionary you are? I suspect you're just a troll who has nothing better to do which instantly puts you in the loser category who has done nothing and continues to do nothing with their life.
sr. member
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November 24, 2014, 09:06:42 AM
#26
Oh yes, again with the conspiracy theory's:

- BITCOIN is a plan to control us.

- BITCOIN is a hoax created by the UN and politically funded scientists, aided by Al Gore and many others to put cap and trade in place for monetary gain.

- BITCOIN was created by the CIA, NSA, PENTAGON, DOD, MI6, KGB, FBI...

- BITCOIN is used as a smokescreen by the government to cover up bankrot

- BITCOIN is United States Department of Defense (DOD) experiment for mind control.

- BITCOIN is part of an insidious Communist plot

- BITCOIN is actually a Soviet mind control experiment. You can protect your brain by wearing you-know-what.

- BITCOIN is a part of Stargate program and that the Iraq War may have been caused because Saddam Hussein had altcoin.

- BITCOIN was created by oil industry.

- BITCOIN was created to hide HAARP

- BITCOIN was made for antichrist, when he comes to the Earth to trick people that Jesus has returned.

- BITCOIN was created by the US Government.

- BITCOIN was created by the Israeli government.

- BITCOIN was created by the Illuminati.

- BITCOIN was created by the Rothschilds.

- BITCOIN was created by North Korea, to control South Korea.
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legendary
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November 24, 2014, 08:53:08 AM
#25
I mostly look into lending section to have a laugh, but this one is good too  Cheesy

OP are you high on something? That explains a lot  Grin
newbie
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November 24, 2014, 08:46:29 AM
#24
You sound like quite the tyrant. Yes, there are lots of people who contribute nothing to the world and make you lose faith in humanity sometimes, but I bet there's vastly more than the 1% that have contributed more than you.


Yeah over 100 books and having a few laws of math and physics named for me means nothing plus giving the morons named humans a real plan to have global clean free energy within a generation is nothing and forming a university and creating the OS that will actually run AI robots, is nothing.

10K years from now my name will be known, you are forgotten within 10 minutes of your death like the 99.9% that did NOTHING on this planet, the reason I'm a misanthrope is I know humanity and I'm steering it so it survives what's coming. Without me humanity would be terminated within the next generation from what's coming.

Mappo is near and I'm JOGYO

sr. member
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November 24, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
#23
I have it on good authority that Obama himself funded the project.

*puts on tin foil hat*
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November 24, 2014, 08:21:13 AM
#22
First of all, bitcoin is open source code. Satoshi could prove himself to be the NSA, Ben Bernanke, or Bill Cosby and it wouldn't affect my opinion of the technology one way or the other. What matters is how bitcoin works, and how it's going to evolve in the future; not what it's origin is.


This is also my reasoning. It doesn't really matter who created it - it is still a fantastic and revolutionary idea. And even if satoshi was ex or current NSA they don't exactly have stupid people working for them. I don't believe it was a NSA invention though. Don't see what purpose they could have with it. Seems like it would do more harm than good to them in my opinion.
Neg
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November 24, 2014, 08:20:13 AM
#21
The biggest LIE that all of those that blindly believe in bitcoin is that it is open source

99.9% of the world has no real clue what open source is, and 99% of the bitcoin crowd doesn't either

As a misanthrope I honestly believe 99.99% of humanity is a waste of energy and needs to be exterminated


You sound like quite the tyrant. Yes, there are lots of people who contribute nothing to the world and make you lose faith in humanity sometimes, but I bet there's vastly more than the 1% that have contributed more than you.
newbie
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November 24, 2014, 08:08:48 AM
#20
The biggest LIE that all of those that blindly believe in bitcoin is that it is open source

99.9% of the world has no real clue what open source is, and 99% of the bitcoin crowd doesn't either

As a misanthrope I honestly believe 99.99% of humanity is a waste of energy and needs to be exterminated

That all being said I will expound upon the above and show you just how little the experts on bitcoin know

a. the first bitcoin core was not open, it was closed and it generated a ton of coins for very few people

b. bitcoin is open source, but this is what that means, that means anyone that knows how to read code can view the source and pick apart its weaknesses, and bitcoin's core is weak, the reason it is weak is that the whole Snowden affair over NSA documents involves the NSA's ability to issue corrupt seed keys through NIST for ECC style encryption, and Bitcoin uses ECC crypto, the stuff the NSA is know to have corrupted.

c. Guys with no real crypto experience that think bitcoin came from god then say oh no bitcoin uses Koblitz curve ECC, well Koblitz is one of the original movers of all ECC crypto and he has long connections to the NSA and literally three days before the Satoshi white paper came to light Koblitz the guy whose crypto is used by bitcoin, released a paper praising himself, the NSA and ECC as to how secure it was, now today we know that ECC is totally backdoored by the NSA, so if you have even a minor IQ you realize that the crypto bitcoin uses is backdoored as all ECC crypto is.

Now the koolaid believers in crypto refuse to believe these FACTS, so they cry and call names and moan it's all lies, yet the fact is even the name the NSA used shows an intelligence org created btc, Nakamoto Satoshi is loosely translated into CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE.

NSA contros crypto in USA and the WORLD, so they did it and they used Satoshi Nakamoto as inside joke to point to the CIA.

To me, it's a new internet currency and since everything is back doored, so what, all I know is for bitcoin casinos and porn and other adult stuff you can take it and spend it and convert it, so I could care less what it's worth, as long as it has a value I can take it today and buy something or keep some or convert it.

It's not the holy grail to me, it's in my opinion an intelligence operation like TOR is.

Just search on search engines for CIA BITCOIN

Then read the info and you can wiki the names and see these guys in crypto exist they have long ties to the NSA and yes there's a reason no one has ever seen Satoshi, he's what they call a LEGEND in spookland, and a legend is a fake person.

Bitcoin was designed for dark ops, drugs, maybe gambling, child porn and the sex slave trade, IMO.

If you don't think the NSA is involved in massive drug ops or the CIA, then you don't know history.

So the NSA and CIA can now use bitcoin to fund their black op activities and have no banking trace.

Plus the backdoor allows them to bust anyone they want.
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November 24, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
#19
I don't think it does matter really , since Bitcoin is an open source and it dosen't need goverments to work. so yeah...
donator
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November 24, 2014, 05:50:24 AM
#18
Yes, they are!!! Isn't that cool or what?!?

Next topic ....
member
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November 24, 2014, 03:36:30 AM
#17
What if the NSA created bitcoin to catch drug dealers and stuff?

Mind Blown

Yup seems to be working quite well these days
legendary
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Crypto since 2014
November 24, 2014, 03:22:52 AM
#16
What if the NSA created bitcoin to catch drug dealers and stuff?

Mind Blown
newbie
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November 24, 2014, 02:47:10 AM
#15
uhm... nah
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
November 24, 2014, 12:19:20 AM
#14
Bitcoin is an intelligence tool, just not that kind of intelligence tool.
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
November 23, 2014, 11:53:51 PM
#13
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nsa-bitcoin-1996/

Well basically this article claims that satoshi was actually a "retired" nsa agent, i put quotations around retired cause i have no clue why the article author is making the assumption that he retired.

What do you think?

Great fiction novel
I can see it being made into a movie
Dig a bit deeper to find the true weapon were building known only to the Hero and Legend members on the forum  Wink
(Were all in on it hehe)
sr. member
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November 23, 2014, 11:47:19 PM
#12
Maybe a division of the CIA. NSA listens to the world, the CIA acts on it.
sr. member
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Brainwashed this way
November 23, 2014, 11:26:50 PM
#11
^ Now add this to BitGold:

http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanobarter.html?m=

Of course you would need this included also:

http://szabo.best.vwh.net/scarce.html

I do agree that it doesn't really matter, it is an open-source project that's already out in the wild.
legendary
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November 23, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
#10
I understand where you're coming from, but you see, why would okomato write a report for the national security agency?

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/is-the-national-security-agency-behind-bitcoin/

He's also a cryptographer
http://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/author.php?authorkey=59


Don't get me wrong, if anything this makes me feel more secure about bitcoin, those people have never failed for hundreds of years.

I am  more certain than ever that Bitcoin will exceed the 100k mark



I think you need to have some appreciation for the fact that there's a lot of crossover in the intellectual work between top cryptographers and top cryptographer-employers like the NSA. The ideas circulate, get discussed, evolved, partially implemented here and there, poked and prodded, etc. The fact that the NSA was interested in digital cash in 1996 is hardly surprising, nor is the form it took (ie, some evolution of Chaum's ideas, notions of which were popular at the time).

If you're looking for evolutionary ancestors to Bitcoin, Bit gold looks far closer: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html.

Not saying it wasn't an NSA project, though. Who knows. Doesn't matter.
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