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January 28, 2014, 01:47:22 AM
#95
I would like to suggest to just wait and see.

We all know promises in the bitcoin world are hard to keep given the many factors that a manufacturer or assembler depends on.
And we all think that they should be careful with their promises, still they can't resist and it shows pride in their products(if they are for real).

I am just waiting for the review unit, till then I will just continue to enjoy live, enjoy bitcointalk and sleep like a baby ;-)

And when the unit is in, you'll all know about it!



Good plan.  Smiley
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January 28, 2014, 01:42:34 AM
#94
I would like to suggest to just wait and see.

We all know promises in the bitcoin world are hard to keep given the many factors that a manufacturer or assembler depends on.
And we all think that they should be careful with their promises, still they can't resist and it shows pride in their products(if they are for real).

I am just waiting for the review unit, till then I will just continue to enjoy live, enjoy bitcointalk and sleep like a baby ;-)

And when the unit is in, you'll all know about it!
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January 28, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
#93
You're probably right RE: Virginia law. Technically, DBAs and trade names are supposed to be registered (at least in my state).  But, people don't register DBAs or trade names, especially small businesses, b/c they don't think about it, know about it, or lack the time and resources to do it. There's no DBA police roaming the streets looking to shut down deficient filers - talk about stifling free enterprise. In many situations, failure to register or file business org documents is harmless and can be remedied by simply filing the proper paperwork.  For example, in some situations, a business can even hold itself out as a corporation, not actually be registered as such, get sued, and then claim the corporate shield in the suit. Courts can be pretty forgiving. Anyway, I'm all for skepticism and calling out shady practices - I just don't think this raises many, if any, here (at least in my book).
legendary
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January 28, 2014, 01:11:11 AM
#92
I bet that's a function of a website template. Also, it is possible for a company named X to do business as Y (i.e., a brand).  For example, "Dunkin' Donuts" is a brand name that lots of franchisees do business as. No big deal.

Yeah, and you need to officially register a DBA if you're going to do that. This is not optional.
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January 28, 2014, 01:07:47 AM
#91
nTek Computers is a new brand of RevUp Render, Inc. www.revuprender.com

"Copyright © 2014 nTek Computers"

How does a "brand" copyright something? I strongly suggest you stop implying nTek is a company and make it right. I don't think Virginia will approve of how you are doing business.

I bet that's a function of a website template. Also, it is possible for a company named X to do business as Y (i.e., a brand).  For example, "Dunkin' Donuts" is a brand name that lots of franchisees do business as. No big deal.

EDITED - poor sentence structure
legendary
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January 28, 2014, 01:02:03 AM
#90
nTek Computers is a new brand of RevUp Render, Inc. www.revuprender.com

"Copyright © 2014 nTek Computers"

How does a "brand" copyright something? I strongly suggest you stop implying nTek is a company and make it right. I don't think Virginia will approve of how you are doing business.
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January 28, 2014, 12:26:06 AM
#89
I have yet to receive my order or an idea of when it may ship (now 17 days past payment clearing). 

What payment method did you use?
I used credit card

Credit Card here as well - going to have to cancel order before 30 day mark I'm afraid, really don't want to have that fight with AMEX...

We are not hear to make anyone feel uncomfortable with ordering. If you would like a refund then please just email [email protected] and I would be happy to give you a full refund. I have given one refund to someone before the 14-days simply because they changed their mind about buying.
newbie
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January 28, 2014, 12:13:19 AM
#88
I have yet to receive my order or an idea of when it may ship (now 17 days past payment clearing). 

What payment method did you use?
I used credit card

Credit Card here as well - going to have to cancel order before 30 day mark I'm afraid, really don't want to have that fight with AMEX...
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January 28, 2014, 12:02:26 AM
#87
Proof will be in the pudding.

Everything else and this pretty innocuous back and forth in this thread means very little to those who have already paid. Given A1 / Bitmine's delivery schedule we will know in short order what is and isn't a scam in the A1 chip miner market. Reading the website like tea leaves for a scam is not the only factor. Putting your own name and reputation up like Ry has does speak more authenticity vs. fly by night operations littering bitcointalk including well established companies that take delays for customers as a badge of honor showing little or no remorse.
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January 27, 2014, 11:52:31 PM
#86
Hard to believe I am the first one who could pull this - cached address.  Ry - if you are legit, why pull your address from the site?

RevUp Render
Xxxx
Alexandria VA. Xxxxx
Phone: (703) xxxxx
[email protected]


EDITED:  In response to a direct request to do so, I have removed the address that was posted (despite the fact that it is public information that can be found with a simple web search).
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January 27, 2014, 11:49:54 PM
#85
Oh sweet, low-cost outsourced everything.

Cheap virtual hosting, outsourced cart software, outsourced credit processing.

And an ugly website, that anyone worth a damn could whip up in no time.
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January 27, 2014, 11:38:48 PM
#84
Domain Registration Private, check!
Website that looks like it was hacked together poorly by liberally stealing from another, check!
Huge price and no history, check!
No address, check!

So it's got the top 4 signs of being a scam. I'm not saying that it is a scam, but the likelihood is very high!

Based on Shopify http://www.shopify.com/

One of the most advanced and trusted storefront web systems on the web. We have also verified our business through Shopify with an "Employer Identification Number". Also our credit card processing is through Authorize.net which is another trusted platform which requires merchants to be verified.

A website does not prove that we will have working 1200Gh/s miners in customers hands soon. We will! I am just stating facts though because the website is not "fake"
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January 27, 2014, 11:33:27 PM
#83
Domain Registration Private, check!
Website that looks like it was hacked together poorly by liberally stealing from another, check!
Huge price and no history, check!
No address, check!

So it's got the top 4 signs of being a scam. I'm not saying that it is a scam, but the likelihood is very high!
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January 27, 2014, 11:30:32 PM
#82
I am not sure where the chips went that we're supposed to be delivered today? Anyone hear any news? If not it's another case of string along BFL type stuff. It will soon become too late for some of these poor people to cancel credit card transactions and meanwhile in Bora Bora a guy is tan while sipping a nice drink:) I hope the best but it's not looking good. I was assured 14 days and not a day longer on Jan 8. Boy am I glad I trusted my gut feeling.

Somehow someone misunderstood that Bitmine.ch had a scheduled delivery of the A1 Coincraft 28nm ASIC chips today. This was the first production batch of their new groundbreaking ASIC chips. We did not say that the chips would be delivered to the United States today. Good news is that I did confirm with the owner of Bitmine.ch that the chips were leaving Hong Kong today on schedule so we should have them very soon.

As many of you know this is very good news and the main reason nTek / RevUp Render decided to source the ASIC chips for our miners from Bitmine. They have a good reputation for delivering on time. Must be something to do with Swiss clocks! ;-)

Please understand that we are building these systems as quickly as possible. We all have been working 16+ hours every day to make sure we are crossing all our t's and dotting all of our i's.

The few people who ordered the TH miners first will be getting their's first. We are just about a week past the 14 days we expected originally just for those first few orders. Also, we originally sold those first systems on being 1000Gh/s and now are delivering at least 1200Gh/s and up to 1600Gh/s per miner with overclocking. The A1 chips are designed to be overclocked and we are using several very powerful delta fans to keep the chips nice and cool. There has been extra testing and validation work to ensure the chips will have a long lifespan at the higher hashing rates.

Feel free to post any questions for us here as an order support thread. RevUp Render (nTek) prides itself on excellent customer service. Please do not compare us to BFL....I think we have another 12 months of being late until that would be fair. Not one week of being late. Everything technically is on schedule. The A1 Coincraft chips have left and are in route. Hope that is good news for everyone!
sr. member
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January 27, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
#81
So did the chips come in today? If so is there any video or picture proof to be posted? Or was there a delay caused by the snow storm? It would be real nice to see some proof! It will boost sales tremendously!
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January 27, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
#80
domain register in november 2013.
site sell item noone ever buy. who pay $3000 for $800 pc they sell on site ? It just to fill white space around asic product
site is fake. why bother discuss ?


Yes the site is new.
nTek Computers is a new brand of RevUp Render, Inc. www.revuprender.com
RevUp Render does not really sound like a computer company as it is more cloud based computing. Thus the new product branding for nTek Computers.
You can check out RevUp Render all you want and you will see that we are very respected for high performance computing related to architecture, engineering, and VFX.
Not sure how you would know how much items we have sold through the website since this is not public information.
Just because a site was registered recently does not mean it is fake. ntekcomputers.com is based on the Shopify.com platform and Shopify does have a process for verifying merchants with social security numbers, EIN's etc...

We will soon be putting a permanent physical address on the website. However, we have previously working in advanced cloud computing for the last five years. The very nature of cloud computing is to be mobile. Right now we are working out logistics if we want to have a manufacturing facility in California or the east coast. There are a lot of factors to consider to ensure that we can provide a steady supply chain to customers. We want to make sure that we can end the whole pre-order thing. Right now we are selling custom systems just like if you order a custom Alienware system from Dell, it might take 2-3 weeks for delivery. In the near term we want to just have systems on hand and ready to ship within a day or two so this is why we do not list an address on the site right now. Figured it would look worse to put one address and switch it once we iron out the details of our long term manufacturing process.

Soon enough people will be getting our new TH ASIC miners in their hands and I understand that is the only kind of proof in this industry. I respect that many have been burned by other mining hardware companies so I am not going to try to convince anyone too much until we deliver the first systems.

In the meantime anyone can see that we are an established business. Feel free to check out some of the ground breaking things we have done in the visual-supercomputing world!
You can't really fake stuff like this:

http://gfxspeak.com/2011/06/07/revup-render-introduces-revupvcs-on-realityserver/

http://archive.hpcwire.com/hpccloud/2011-05-23/revup_render_introduces_the_first_cloud_system_for_architects_based_on_nvidia_realityserver.html

http://www.cgarchitect.com/2011/01/cgarchitect-report-on-autodesk-university-2010#revup

http://www.elegantworkflow.com/?p=318

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9652959.htm

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2012/07/alternatives-to-autodesks-cloud-rendering-service.html



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January 27, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
#79
Compared to what happened w/ the CTS Miner debacle, this group looks a lot more legit (not concluding either way).  Consider the following:

1. http://ucc.state.ri.us/CORP_DRIVE1/2013/0603/000000000/3571/201322153490_1.pdf

Of course, they probably should be registered in VA as a foreign entity - that's how we'd do it my state at least.

2. This may be the other corporate officer: http://www.lederbergblackman.com/biol.asp (good credentials for an attorney, notwithstanding the BU Law degree (I'm a BC Law guy)).

3. http://www.linkedin.com/groups/RevUp-Render-Inc-2962765?trk=groups_guest_item_list_abbreviated-h-dsc&goback=%2Egna_2962765

4. http://www.youtube.com/user/RevUpRender/videos

Clearly dealing w/ real people here.  That's a good start. Again, I'm not taking a position on the ultimate legitimacy - just sharing info.



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January 27, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
#78
I am not sure where the chips went that we're supposed to be delivered today? Anyone hear any news? If not it's another case of string along BFL type stuff. It will soon become too late for some of these poor people to cancel credit card transactions and meanwhile in Bora Bora a guy is tan while sipping a nice drink:) I hope the best but it's not looking good. I was assured 14 days and not a day longer on Jan 8. Boy am I glad I trusted my gut feeling.
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January 27, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
#77
domain register in november 2013.
site sell item noone ever buy. who pay $3000 for $800 pc they sell on site ? It just to fill white space around asic product
site is fake. why bother discuss ?


We will see this week when the boards are printed with their logo and they start assembling. This by far is not fake. Yes website was just created but ntek is part of revuprender which has been around since 2005
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January 27, 2014, 10:08:52 PM
#76
domain register in november 2013.
site sell item noone ever buy. who pay $3000 for $800 pc they sell on site ? It just to fill white space around asic product
site is fake. why bother discuss ?
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