Topic: Nubbins is the type of Plague that destroys this community (video proof thread) (Read 3862 times)

Thanks Tech, Not really needed though, you and i both know that nothing will ever shut them up.

Never the less for those who have been waiting for legitimate reasons and were not able to get in on the live stream yesterday. Video is on its way. its been uploading since last night. probably another 12 or so hours to go.


Until then the thread is locked, Many of these degenerates were offered a chance to watch the stream yesterday, they declined to do so. further showing this was never a fact finding mission, it was all one giant witch hunt started by nubbins. Just because they choose not to see the truth does not mean its a lie.

Qualified how? Because they said so? Do these so called qualified people also own a laser engraver?  I am not an outsider to laser engraving or woodworking. I have a hard time believing that any of these so called experts know enough about intricate hand carving, and have enough skill themselves to be able to say for certain a piece was not hand carved just by looking at a photo of it. Just because they are themselves unskilled is not proof that others are incapable. So in short your so called experts are worth about as much as a hot steaming pile.

Others, likewise qualified and more than you, have chimed in and said the opposite, that it's clear the intricate designs are laser cut. My question to you, as an observer to this issue and an outsider to wood working, specifically what makes you and I presume your family friend, disagree with that assessment?

 
It's hard to be a robot when you have feelings.

I am an owner of a 40w laser engraver, and an immediate family member of mine is a professional woodworker, so I am familiar with most of the tools involved here, yet none of the evidence you have produced as of yet is 100% proof of anything. One thing you need to keep in mind is YOU ARE NOT INFALLIBLE. You may be 100% assured of your conclusions, but that doesn't mean you are 100% right. The fact that you seem to be willing to leave no room for your own error and inject the extra vitriol that no one would welcome, scammer or not, demonstrates to me your own inability to reason. In short you are unnecessarily muddying the waters of what my or may not be an accurate scam accusation to satiate your own emotional compulsions. This addition of emotional content makes it harder for ALL ACCUSERS, as well as ALL ACCUSED, even innocent ones.

I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but I'd do it all again. You need to hit scammers hard and fast, so they don't have enough time to make up believable lies.

Remember the dark wooden round he posted a photo of, with white-blond wood shavings on top, as if they had just been shaved off the piece?

I suspected he was running a scam from the get-go, and I did in fact wait until I was absolutely sure before I pulled the trigger. I understand that some of my words may have been offensive to some, but I have no tolerance for scammers.

You yourself are injecting a lot of hate and childishness into this. Lets assume for the sake of argument this is not a scam, would you expect him to respond positively to you in this case? You aren't just pointing out a potential scam here you are creating a shitshow along with personal attacks, insults, emotionally motivated posts, and mobs. If you had managed to leave all of this out I might be agreeing with you. However at this point because of the way you handled this I am inclined to give Woodcollector the benefit of the doubt just based on your inability to keep this a fact based argument. In accusing members around here, especially productive and or trusted ones, the burden is also upon you to remain professional in your accusations.

Because I don't care to. Please scroll up and read the topic of this thread. WC responded to my legitimate, 100% correct concerns with a hate thread to try to intimidate me into silence. Fuck him and his scam. 

This is getting out of hand.

Nubbins why don't you change the title of your thread to something like "WoodCutter seems to use lasers for some of his finishing work".

This is in fact the only issue.

Of course he is going to be upset he has many happy customers and delivers the goods and you are calling him a scammer.

Time out guys it seems pretty clear cut to me 

You sad little man, you are not my competition. Even in the sense that we both sell things on this forum, you are not my competition. You are a little boy with a lathe and some lathe tools who got publicly humiliated in the most embarassing manner possible, but still cling to the tatters of your reputation as if it's worth something.

Here's your ridiculous fucking picture of a "work in progress", where you sprinkled some blonde sawdust over a heavily stained piece of dark wood:



Did you oil the wood to that dark color while the chips were on it? Or did you remove the chips, oil the piece, and then replace the chips?

Or did you just laser the fucking thing and throw some wood chips from your lathe on top? Fucking amateur.

Here's how an actual professional with talent documents his work, where you can see every goddamn step of the process so you can tell I'm not a slimy piece of shit trying to pass off a laser print as something that was done by hand:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0;all

I wouldn't even show people a digital proof of the poster, because the real, hand-printed item looks so much different. Just like a real hand-carved piece of wood looks so much different than your laser jobs.

Asshole. Idiot.

Maybe you could take some time to view the pictures on the thread and finally understand why you're so pathetic. You're not my competition, and you never will be. Fucking maggot.

Best popcorn gif ever 

Thanks teal, If you believed everything a troll and his sock puppets said around here i get the feeling you wouldn't be around here any more. Its super late here tonight, well after midnight, but i'll work on that for you tomorrow 

Like you said, not that its really important anymore, but why not. Nubbins feels he has done away with his competition so i'll make a video for you to show you that the competition does not care 

Based on the new posts in the other thread it's probably not important anymore, but any of the intricate work would be fine.

The post by Nubbins should have been enough. He went overboard with adding negative trust based on what he felt was the truth and not the ideal truth at hand. He made a few points but none of which should have been enough to follow through with neg trust. Neither of the two are handling this the right way but cause and effect took place here. Had no negative trust been given and Nubbins brought up valid points and waited for inquiry from not only OP but from customers and those that know him, then this could have been settled and a video posted. Now its has become a shit show. I disagree completely with neg trust and think that at this moment it was abused and not because its true or untrue, but because it was a first action taken rather than the right action taken.

Which part of the detail are you referring to exactly? would you mind circling it for me in the picture? That i could do rather quickly. Although i am still going to the the other videos

I don't know if a time lapse would really be needed. Not that my opinion matters a whole lot, but I'd consider the guy vindicated if he could reproduce the level of detail in some random piece of hardwood that you see around the edge of the circle in the picture he posted with hand tools.

There most certainly is a plague ravaging this "community", but Nubbins is not part of the disease. His work is high quality and he details his processes in a pretty detailed way. He may have been a bit harsh in his assessment of your work, but he even admitted the end result was "beautiful". If you think his commentary is worthy of crucifixion ("I am going to nail Nubbins to the wall"), you are truly in for a rude awakening; maybe save the capital punishment for someone else.

 
You're being too emotional here, and that's probably the first proof that you're an artist invested in their work.  But you cannot come down on anyone here for questioning and using the system that is in place.  It's not perfect, but it's what we have and it works.  The dialogue here is proof of that.
 
All of the points raised in the original thread are valid and I was astonished this was even an issue since I always assumed these where cut by a machine.  If I was you, and you really did this by hand, I would take that as a compliment.

 
I won't buy it if he only provides a time-lapse, you can fake anything with a time-lapse.  We need chunks of continuous video that show him carving the subject.