Topic: Nutildah & Royse's allegation| Little Mouse, RaptarX & Small Rabbit Connection (Read 715 times)

1- He sent me funds, I used (What's the link here)?
2- I gave the reason for it, too; if I had asked when the connection between me and Smokerface was made, I most likely would've said, you don't store logs or trades for years.
3- No
4- For review, yes; campaign, no.
5- Yes, the chat also happened during that time.
6- You don't have to repeat the 1st and 5th points and make a combined 6th.

The trial would be that you're the same person as someone who clearly promoted scams and generally was not considered trustworthy by many trustworthy individuals in the forum.


I'm probably going to stop posting here as this has taken up a bit more time that I expected.

Here's what I think are the facts:
- The single blockchain transaction is a transaction that undeniably linked the SmokerFace/worldofcoins accounts together.
- worldofcoins gave no information to explain how the link is not the same person (PMs, chat logs, public posts/topics, and so on).
- Both accounts have been caught cheating signature campaigns by post recycling.
- Both accounts have been paid by 1xbit (a scam casino).
- The linking transaction happened right after both accounts were paid by the 1xbit signature campaign.
- The linking transaction shows that SmokerFace sent to worldofcoins, then worldofcoins sent to worldofcoins' exchange/gambling platform/etc all in the same Bitcoin block.

Based on these facts, I think it's time to close this thread and move on worldofcoins, but that's just me.

Why would I be on trial for someone who did whatever they did and just happened to have a few chats and trades?

As far as trial goes: The judge would have access to my bank accounts, not just for one single trade. (If I had 2 bank accounts, then surely they can be linked), Did smokerface sent all their earnings to me or just one?, If it's latter then I don't know would you hang someone for a couple of or just one trade.

No, I was not trolling you. I am liable for what I say, not what you understand. Can you quote it?

Also, You gave me "Bounty Cheater" feedback. Would you please explain which bounty I cheated on? - Talking about literacy here, I might not be as literate as you, but what cheated bounty are we talking about here?, I am sure literate person would understand the meaning of "Bounty"?

Edit: Did you take me for Small Rabbit's alt?

So you did one trade (which you have no record or recollection of) with SmokerFace that just happened to fall at the same time of you both getting paid for the same signature campaign...and in addition, were both using this tactic where you would recycle posts by copying them and reposting them?

I'll ask the same question that went unanswered in a slightly different way again not only because I want to know, but it might help you accept that your feedback probably isn't going to be removed:
if you were on trial right now, with all evidence and lack of explanations for evidence considered, do you think that you would be ruled innocent or guilty?


your*
lol, sorry, had to...

Insisting on referring to me using plural pronouns and making up phrases in attempt to insult me aren't arguments.  It's trolling.  If you don't know the difference between arguing and attempting to insult some one your ignorance goes beyond just being illiterate.

I don't keep history for occasional traders, but I might still have access to the address he sent the funds. (I will have to check), I don't want to reveal much about how I operate my trades, but I am afraid there's no data left of this user, to give (If you or someone else asked me this before, Then I might have had for sure given it) - But why didn't anyone ask me back then?

No, the guy deleted his account. So, I had to close the chat.

So you have no chat logs, no PMs, no public posts or threads that you can go back and look at/show us for reference? Usually when two completely separate individuals trade with each other, then communication is involved? The trade was worth approximately 62 USD at the time, does that not help? What kind of trades were you doing at the time?

It's quite a convenient time to just forget about the details of this trade. The most important question for yourself is, if you were on trial right now, do you think the blockchain evidence combined with your last statement implies guilt, or innocence?

I don't remember exactly what this transaction was for, but I've traded altcoins with the person and even took loans. (Smokerface isn't the only person I've traded with like I said).
If you specifically want me to tell which altcoins?, then I don't know which it was - If someone had questioned me this when they were tagging Smokerface, and this blockchain question was raised, then I would've answered it, but now, it's not feasible.

Nothing you've said in your last post has explaned why SmokerFace sent you the BTC, as I asked prior. It's key to understanding your relationship with SmokerFace and your defense, in my opinion. I'd suggest using less words and talking about irrelevant topics, and just answering the question bluntly.


Trust is not based on certainty or fact, especially here in bitcointalk. Go and look at my profile for example, where JollyGood says that I applied for a campaign for a scam mixer "whilst knowing it was a scam" when my judgement on it probably being a scam came many months after I applied for the campaign. Does that mean it will get removed? no. Or, go look at icopress's feedback on me, where he calls me a troll, then go look at all of my posts and tell me if that matches who I am on this forum. Is that fact or certainty? No...he's just retaliating because I started to call him out on his (in my opinion) shady practices, and that was his way of using his power to discredit and silence me. There's no question there's corruption in the trust system on this forum, however the difference between my feedbacks and yours, is that blockchain evidence has proven that you are connected with SmokerFace, validating that you are more than likely to be the same person...So far, not much of what you have said has overpowered the blockchain evidence that you are both connected, or explained the relationship, and it seems that you are very likely to be the same person.

I'm trying to offer you the opportunity to give some reasonable explanations (such as, what the transaction between SmokerFace and yourself was), however so far you are passing up that opportunity with quite irrelevant jibber jabber in my opinion. My advice? Start by bluntly explaining the transaction between SmokerFace and yourself as suggested by answering this question:
Why did SmokerFace (bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9) send you (worldofcoins) (bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9) in this transaction?

I don't remember how I traded it, but most likely, yes not (bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9) | This one I own: bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9) (The one smokerface sent to). (Look at the justification below to clear your mind, too)

This is how I see it going through:
bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9 (Smokerface) -> bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9 (My wallet) -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68 (My exchange, service, p2p)

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Even smokerface mentioned it, they sent to the address. But they never claimed it to sent to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" | They explicitly mentioned whoever owns the address they sent the funds to, person owning that address have sent to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" (I didn't wanted my name mentioned at time, smokerface understood), but anyway it has come to light then this explanation should clear everything.


Tigerfirst tried to cause confusion with this post, Royse somehow believes whatever this person says, they even gave merit to one of their posts.


Smokerface nowhere claimed they sent to the exchange address "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5"  (They didn't even mention it was the exchange address, even if they had then i might have told them, but most likely didn't tell them about what I am going to do with our traded bitcoins)

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If I am intentionally not being targeted, everything should be clear now, and people who gave me Negative for my Smokerface being my alt should revert their feedback.

Can we not consider "probable certainty" but use feedback on 100% certainty in blockchain cases?

You've admitted to having ownership of bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9

SmokerFace (bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9) sent 0.00060960 BTC to you (worldofcoins) (bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9) in this transaction.

The blockchain proves at a minimum that you received 0.00060960 BTC directly from SmokerFace. What's the relationship between you both? There is no denying that there is one, as you clearly transacted with each other in the linked transaction.




https://archive.is/yYtUz

Sure, You're involving yourself in the drama, so you're free to enunciate or use pronouns, no worries.

Don't mind me, I just heard there was a brewing DT drama involving a shadowy cabal of gender-confused mammals and I figured I should do my part. Do I get new pronouns in this one, too?

No.
Blockchain evidence doesn't prove me being Smokerface, nutildah mentioned username similarities, I've explained it too!, there are no similarities in usernames. (But some Mammals have it, what other reasons do you need to tag them, considering you're ok with that reason to tag, even though my username similarities are nill compared to them).
People who group and abuse their DT status need at least a mention in their profile. I know people who look for legitimate feedback, disregarding it's given from a DT member, or not.

Are you threatening people who have left negative feedback on your profile? What will happen after three days? Are you going to tag them? I assume you have the ability to understand that your feedback is not going to do any harm. This is not a good way to convince people. Your mood swing surprises me. Sometimes you seem too polite, and sometimes too aggressive. Stop this please and show some good arguments that may change their mind. Your threat is not going to scare anyone.

Seriously? You cannot distinguish between argument and trolling?, where does lauda tagging for similar blockchain connection like mine has to do with trolling and where 1xBit manager writing royse text.

Turning my arguments in troll statements is a good to way to divert attention.

If you're trying to troll me I have to warn you; trolling wars are my specialty.  I'll have you crying yourself to sleep every night for a month of Sundays.

But before I step into my hip waders, I'd like to remind you that one of the excuses and flimsy arguments you made to distance yourself from "smokerface" was that he was a troll, and you're not.  Still pressing that argument, or not?

worldofcoins should be removed from any campaign! I just PMed his manager with a link to this thread.

I will refer to you as 'them'. You're free to quote out that part and write whatever you want.


Sure, consider it an excuse, then. You were part of the group? By the way, 1xBit manager Mr. Goonie mentioned Royse's writing style, RaptarX, and Little Mouse had a similar connection in the address that Lauda also tagged.

Is there any particular reason to target me only? - I hurt the person you respect. "Mr. Literate Wannabae?"