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Topic: NVC killed BTC-E and Coinotron? (Read 13190 times)

legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
March 03, 2013, 06:23:56 AM
i believe BTC-E is under ddos again - can anybody confirm problems ?
It's not DDoS, it's CloudFlare problem.

https://twitter.com/CloudFlare/status/308157556113698816
420
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
March 03, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
to stay on the original topic:

coinotron should be back monday/tuesday

i believe BTC-E is under ddos again - can anybody confirm problems ?

has worked for me all day i mean the last 14 hours that ive been up
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 253
March 03, 2013, 05:34:47 AM
to stay on the original topic:

coinotron should be back monday/tuesday

i believe BTC-E is under ddos again - can anybody confirm problems ?
pla
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
March 01, 2013, 09:01:44 PM
If it's chump-change, please send me $700 worth of coins to either of my addresses

Uh, yeah, metaphor?  Learn it.

Sure, $700 in LTC starts to get into what we might consider "real" money.  But trying to imply that some elite group of scammers controls the currency because of such a small transaction just doesn't hold water - Unless, of course, you consider me one of "them".   Roll Eyes
 
In which case... Mwa-hahaha!  Grovel before me, peon, and perhaps I'll toss you a TRC or two for fetching my slippers!   Wink
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
February 25, 2013, 08:05:48 AM
dont forget he has a contract with 420 to buy 700$ worth ltc

Seriously?  $700 amounts to chump-change.  I personally traded out of that much this week just because I happened to have that much and decided the trend had moved away from LTC as a viable "Bitpenny" proposition (I still think we need one, but LTC has failed for a variety of reasons).  I have no interest or investment in the BS politics of the whole "scene".
 
People don't scam for $700.  Now if you know of someone going for $700M... Or even $700k worth - Let us know - Until then, just noise in the background.

If it's chump-change, please send me $700 worth of coins to either of my addresses:

LTC: LRgbgTa3XNQSEUhnwC6Ye2vjiCV2CNRpib
BTC: 1AGP6xPTRvsAVhsRsBX13NUH6p6LJjyeiA
NVC: 4VbimrRURaCdstXZLYTwAQnnrSsXGV7Wfn
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
February 25, 2013, 06:15:50 AM
I did, and its not for the amount, but i told about it to give a reason for his bitch-ing
nvm, i dont care anymore im out of all this Grin


EDIT: and never said that smoothie tries to scam anyone
420
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 25, 2013, 06:11:23 AM
dont forget he has a contract with 420 to buy 700$ worth ltc

Seriously?  $700 amounts to chump-change.  I personally traded out of that much this week just because I happened to have that much and decided the trend had moved away from LTC as a viable "Bitpenny" proposition (I still think we need one, but LTC has failed for a variety of reasons).  I have no interest or investment in the BS politics of the whole "scene".
 
People don't scam for $700.  Now if you know of someone going for $700M... Or even $700k worth - Let us know - Until then, just noise in the background.

I don't see who mentioned or cared about that in here
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
February 24, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
This make me conclude that the LTC is quite manipulated by some party. Maybe someone with botnet is really into LTC and hate NVC.
Why? Because NVC is in strong nature, right? Haha, very interesting. Grin

Have fun in this year. It wil be a drama!

Or because someone doesn't want others to mine- or to allow others to withdraw the coins they already mined. Leaving only their coins to sell.
pla
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
February 24, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
dont forget he has a contract with 420 to buy 700$ worth ltc

Seriously?  $700 amounts to chump-change.  I personally traded out of that much this week just because I happened to have that much and decided the trend had moved away from LTC as a viable "Bitpenny" proposition (I still think we need one, but LTC has failed for a variety of reasons).  I have no interest or investment in the BS politics of the whole "scene".
 
People don't scam for $700.  Now if you know of someone going for $700M... Or even $700k worth - Let us know - Until then, just noise in the background.
legendary
Activity: 1118
Merit: 1002
February 15, 2013, 11:35:01 PM
This make me conclude that the LTC is quite manipulated by some party. Maybe someone with botnet is really into LTC and hate NVC.
Why? Because NVC is in strong nature, right? Haha, very interesting. Grin

Have fun in this year. It wil be a drama!


 Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
February 15, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
site is still down ? Huh
sr. member
Activity: 425
Merit: 262
February 14, 2013, 10:45:38 PM
This make me conclude that the LTC is quite manipulated by some party. Maybe someone with botnet is really into LTC and hate NVC.
Why? Because NVC is in strong nature, right? Haha, very interesting. Grin

Have fun in this year. It wil be a drama!
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
February 14, 2013, 07:53:59 PM
Or maybe you support Germany pre-WW2?
cough cough, Nazi Germany was a fascist regime, they rather disliked communists. But besides that I agree with the sentiment

Godwin in 12 posts.  That escalated quickly!   Grin

BTW the fascist Nazis like commie Stalin just fine when they were dividing up Poland, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

Birds of a centralized authoritarian feather flock together.

The Fabian Zionist backed red-brown alliance never ended, and its NWO goals are coming to fruition in the US and Europe with increasing rapidity.

Unless Bitcoin...

legendary
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
February 14, 2013, 04:50:33 PM

Lol now im a btc-e insider eh? Shame we dont have a facepalm emoticon here...

Look around you, look on the litecoin forum the most active users, look on this forum how many threads smoothie started ONLY today (dont forget he has a contract with 420 to buy 700$ worth ltc)
I am only some months here on the forums and on btc-e chat, and only from this info i got to that conclusion, i do not have the right to have my own opinion? Smiley


Let me see if I got you right: you came to the conclusion that "10~20 persons" holding most of the LTCs by counting the most active forum users?  Shocked

wow, genius.

sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
February 14, 2013, 04:41:40 PM
Lol... in the meantime all this happens LTC hashrate goes up, so guess who is behind those ddos'es and all those threads  Cool
Is it the 10-20 persons that hold most of the litecoins? No? They must have been ultra pissed that their investment didnt go up, but also scared. Now i really hope that nvc was a joke, for those persons to reveal what they are. If now nvc vanishes, ltc too will drop bellow zero.

Interesting. You keep mentioning this "10-20 persons" holding most ltc, how did you figure it out, can you share with us? how about people holding btc?

Other than some kind of insider connection w/ btc-e, I can't think of a way to find that information.

If they do exist, how did they get their coins? pre-mining? accepting as bribes? stealing?

If none above, why is that bothering you? If someone mortgaged his house and invested in LTC, he's either a genius or an idiot, only market has the right to reward or punish him,  nobody else should be upset about it.

But using market participants' trust to manipulate the market is simply wrong.


Lol now im a btc-e insider eh? Shame we dont have a facepalm emoticon here...

Look around you, look on the litecoin forum the most active users, look on this forum how many threads smoothie started ONLY today (dont forget he has a contract with 420 to buy 700$ worth ltc)
I am only some months here on the forums and on btc-e chat, and only from this info i got to that conclusion, i do not have the right to have my own opinion? Smiley


Other than that, nobody can access btc-e, and on the other thread they keep saying "they banned me too" "they censored me too" "i just removed my funds from there"... How the hell? if it isnt to scare the ppl off why is that? I keep asking and asking how to access their chat (by the possibility of there is another link only to the chat) but no reply..
legendary
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
February 14, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
Lol... in the meantime all this happens LTC hashrate goes up, so guess who is behind those ddos'es and all those threads  Cool
Is it the 10-20 persons that hold most of the litecoins? No? They must have been ultra pissed that their investment didnt go up, but also scared. Now i really hope that nvc was a joke, for those persons to reveal what they are. If now nvc vanishes, ltc too will drop bellow zero.

Interesting. You keep mentioning this "10-20 persons" holding most ltc, how did you figure it out, can you share with us? how about people holding btc?

Other than some kind of insider connection w/ btc-e, I can't think of a way to find that information.

If they do exist, how did they get their coins? pre-mining? accepting as bribes? stealing?

If none above, why is that bothering you? If someone mortgaged his house and invested in LTC, he's either a genius or an idiot, only market has the right to reward or punish him,  nobody else should be upset about it.

But using market participants' trust to manipulate the market is simply wrong.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 14, 2013, 04:17:11 PM

cough..bullsi..cough

I started mining with  4 5x7970rigs (9.3mh) a few hours after the coin showed up on coinotron for 24 hours.  I have less then 250 nvc.

You only made a bunch if you mined before then....  without getting exact, i think i started mining on the 5th day of the coins life.   when coinotron was at 45hm and diff was at 4.1

so, no you could not mine 10k unless had a huge farm......  or mined in the first 2 days

I got 500 coins with 2 mh/s within the first 16 hours after release of binaries

scammity scammy

It's a scam for sure.

I got banned and censored on BTC-e chat for bringing up the centralization/checkpointing facts about NVC and that 110k premine NVC was sent to BTC-e.

Fucking scam seriously....pisses me off.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005
February 14, 2013, 04:10:23 PM

cough..bullsi..cough

I started mining with  4 5x7970rigs (9.3mh) a few hours after the coin showed up on coinotron for 24 hours.  I have less then 250 nvc.

You only made a bunch if you mined before then....  without getting exact, i think i started mining on the 5th day of the coins life.   when coinotron was at 45hm and diff was at 4.1

so, no you could not mine 10k unless had a huge farm......  or mined in the first 2 days

I got 500 coins with 2 mh/s within the first 16 hours after release of binaries

scammity scammy
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500
February 14, 2013, 04:10:21 PM
Lol... in the meantime all this happens LTC hashrate goes up, so guess who is behind those ddos'es and all those threads  Cool
Is it the 10-20 persons that hold most of the litecoins? No? They must have been ultra pissed that their investment didnt go up, but also scared. Now i really hope that nvc was a joke, for those persons to reveal what they are. If now nvc vanishes, ltc too will drop bellow zero.

Using the same tools to mine NVC and LTC impacts the hashrate on both networks. I can understand the coin hoppers going for the best profitability with minimum configuration changes. In fact, it impacts all networks (BTC, TRC etc) to a lesser extend since the same GPUs are used to mine scrypt, but the configuration changes are not "instant" simple.

If the only NVC exchange goes down, it's not profitable anymore to mine it. However, you can still mine LTC and dump it on Vircurex or somewhere else. With the LTC/NVC rigs, you can't do too much when your avg hashrate is pretty low.

I guess you're thinking too much ..
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 14, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Lol... in the meantime all this happens LTC hashrate goes up, so guess who is behind those ddos'es and all those threads  Cool
Is it the 10-20 persons that hold most of the litecoins? No? They must have been ultra pissed that their investment didnt go up, but also scared. Now i really hope that nvc was a joke, for those persons to reveal what they are. If now nvc vanishes, ltc too will drop bellow zero.

Right a negative price lol...you are a retard lol...but you make me laugh so you're okay with me  Cheesy
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