Topic: [NXC] Nexium trade talk ICO info - page 3. (Read 6488 times)

Well man I don't wanna discuss with you because how you say there's no valid point. I don't know how you compute gains and frankly I don't care, but I'm sure that your accounting method is totally useless in those VC markets. Listen to me, this is much more simple: You buy a prototype at 0.10$, and you sell the finished product at 0.50$. And if there's no finished product, you lose.

Funny thing is that I am supposed to be the one who has a twisted brain LOL

I'm glad that you could mine hundreds and thousands of BTC in early days, but the topics discussed here have nothing to do with that. Being a lucky rich nerdy guy who discovered BTC when nobody knew about it doesn't make you a good investor.

You can keep your arguments with you. Theres no point in keeping a discussion valid if you keep twisting whatever invalid logic left in your twisted brain. As Simple as computation of gain you cannot comprehend, how more the complexity of other far more important matters. And no, in my eyes, as a pioneer in mining BTC, long before -ck- wrote his cgminer,  whatever you will gain in this is petty.

 

Listen to me wise man:

First, I dropped out from economics university career last year with 19 years old and 90% A marks. I think you can imagine why.  

Second, I've been making a shit ton of money by investing/trading alts last 2 years and a half, and will keep doing so in the future. I'm starting a hedge fund next year and I'll be the lead manager, with 21 YEARS OLD

Third, you can make the computation you want, I don't fucking care about "how it's done" in your Oxford university. I care about REAL FACTS, and this is the SIMPLE REALITY from a $ perspective investor:

@Initial
10.837/700 = 0.01548142 USD/NXC

@Final
8.50/575 = 0.014782 USD/NXC  (Yeah, the guy was also lying in the final days ETH value)


NOW

0.00001700 BTC* 820 BTC/$ = 0.01394 USD/NXC


So wise man, you can complicate the calculations whatever you want. Reality is that ICO was aproxximately at 0.015 USD/NXC and now it's trading between 0.13-0.15 USD/NXC . And you don't need a 120.000 $ master in Harvard to know that.  


Also, if you invest here is to make a 500-1000% returns in the future when the product is ready. It doesn't make any sense to be calculating every % point like it was an S&P 500 point. Have in mind that liquidity in these markets in generally poor, and much more in these BTC growing days.

This is venture capital man, I think you're in the wrong site. Get back on your suit and keep working for your nasty multimillionaire bosses  

I bought some 600k of Nexiums during the ICO.

I paid with ETH at the beginning of the ICO and then just bought with BitCrystals, because it was so much cheaper. Converting all the different coin prices to btc and i got in my opinion a very good price for around

.00002 a Nexium

i guess there are people out there who paid some % cheaper at the end of the ICO, because the ETH priced dumped 30% and BitCrystals were also some 20% cheaper what makes around

.000016 a Nexium

...but i will also get 10% bonus and all the backers goodies, which you can buy then at the Games Shop.

You are getting alot of bonus nexiums on january from the marketing funds. I guess the rest will be used when the product works. Make no sense to promote now nor giving bounties for free.

What do you know about it can you tell me about this promotion

That's not how investments are computed. You established your base figure on the date of investment and its value on that investment date. If you compute it base on the present value, you must also factor the time value of money accumulated from the date the investment is made to present. As such, it needs at least 27% more to my original computation, thus, makes investment on nexium worst. There are always bad investment, We know that. And at the moment, given this, the investment made on nexium is really on the worse side. Very bad for the initial investor. You should protect your business, that's the cardinal rule.

Ps. That some one who made a computation you say is "right" should rethink to himself, is he fooling himself or baiting others to invest more. His thinking and arguments are flawed. You are twisting computation to justify and make it look less ugly. I say he needs to go back to highschool and study economics 101.

Really people this free FUD is incredible. The altcoin section is degenerating day by day, so many crybabies and life failures. If you FOMO and buy at 10K it's YOUR fucking problem, don't blame the project for that.

Now, the one who's making this terrible accounting. Take a look idiot and see how it's done:

BTC price during ICO : $ 630.00 $ 800.00 (despite trading in BTC, alts are based on $. When BTC goes up in value generally alts go down, so if you wanna compare the ICO vs now, you have to put the ACTUAL BTC price. Otherwise you're making trap.
ETH Price during ICO : $ 10.837
Initial 5M offer : 700 NXC/ETH
Final  5M offer : 425 NXC/ETH 575 NXC/ETH (Fail, go to http://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/nexium-price/ and see for yourself)

@Initial
10.837/700 = 0.01548142 USD/NXC
0.01548142/800= 0.00001935 BTC/NXC

@Final
10.837/575 = 0.01890956 USD/NXC
0.01890956/800 = 0.00002364 BTC/NXC


So now that your shit accounting demonstrates your lack of intelligence or your intend to FUD (I think it's more option 1 than option 2), let's put the REAL FACTS in the table:

Now we must be below -20% of ICO prices. There was a huge whale that bough a big % of these 365 BTC raised, and these two days he has been cashing out at a profit while some suckers bought him at X5. Easy money. Now a lot of these suckers are shouting SCAM, SCAM, SCAM and are panic selling their positions at a loss to the same whale. LOL

FUNDAMENTAL BASIS: Price will go ABOVE ICO prices, when the info and the releases provided for the team will be more valuable than the info provided at ICO times. We don't have major impovements right now, what do you expect, to everyone win magically an X5 because it was added to Polo?¿? These crazy days are over people. The coin will gain value when this value will be justified, that means to release a good game and a good platform in general.

About the confidence in the honesty of the team, do some research, go to fucking slack https://beyond-the-void.slack.com and ask them questions. They should post more here, we already said that and they are gonna do it, so stop fucking around with free scam clams.

COLD MIND VIEW: Current Market cap is around 800-900K $ counting the dev and bounties fund, and around 400-500K $ without counting it. They have a cool game that it's already in advanced development. ONLY 6 MONTHS for FULL RELEASE. Really you cannot wait 6 months and make a X5-X10 profit?¿? Are you fucking kidding me? Want a reliable antecedent? Look at Bitcrystals (BCY), it went up 15M$ market cap without even beeing the Full release done, and excuse me for them, but Beyond of Void looks much cooler and solid model than Bitcrystals.

Crybabes, crybabes everywhere... In 6 months you'll be buying our NXC between 10K-20K sats, mark my words.  

Hi everyone, those calculations are wrong. Somebody posted the right ones here and we thank them for that and for defending our project despite the heated tone of the post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1624343.new;topicseen#new

Something we can only agree with is: our coin's value is tied to the success of the game. We are full time on developing a great game that hopefully (and with work of course) will draw a big community of players, and then the Nexium can gain momentum. The beta for backers is not so far away, only February, and the open beta for the end of march/beginning of April.

If you have questions, there is our slack: http://beyond-the-void.signup.team/

The last thing I want to say is: we are not pro traders. We are a passionate team developing a video game. We do our best to ensure that everybody is happy with the ICO and with the project in general, but we have no control on what's traded on Poloniex or other exchanges, and over the price.

Now is down or up ico price?

Hi dev, may i know about bounty & promotion?

Actual ScreenShot taken during ICO run. ETH at $10.8046 (but $10.837 at the actual start of ICO)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1630816.120

And ETH somehow climbed that time due to purchases for this ICO to $11.10. Trust me. I watched this closely.

ETH is cheaper than ICO phase, ETH was 0.013+ BTC during the ico, so I consider to calculate based on BTC price, aka IVO price is: 0.000015-0.0002 BTC

THis is how its computed:

BTC price during ICO : $ 630.00
ETH Price during ICO : $ 10.837
Initial 5M offer : 700 NXC/ETH
Final  5M offer : 425 NXC/ETH

@Initial
10.837/700 = 0.01548142 USD/NXC
0.01548142/630= 0.00002457 BTC/NXC


@Final
10.837/425 = 0.02549882 USD/NXC
0.02549882/630 = 0.00004047 BTC/NXC


Look at where it is now. You know what they say when Coins fell Below ICO price. I dont have to spell it out.
http://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/nexium-price/

What can I do with the token?

what bounty and promotion do u have for that 15M

The Nexium (NxC) is the Token of the game Beyond the void. We used a classic pattern  from the ethereum community with some upgrades and adaption for our needs.


This Token follow basic standards of the community and is ERC20 compliant so you can use it with the Mist Ethereum Wallet or MyEtherWallet.com

We created 100 000 000 Nexiums through an Ethereum contract. It’s an amount fixed in the contract, so we can’t create more.

You can find all the technical information and the Nexium smart contract on this page: https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/nexium/
And view all the transactions here: https://etherscan.io/token/0x45e42d659d9f9466cd5df622506033145a9b89bc

This is the repartition of the 100 Million NxC we created:


We did a presale last June and an ICO (Initial Coin Offering) from November 1st to December 1st, and sold around 31 Million NxC in total.
This is our ICO page: http://ico.beyond-the-void.net/
The ICO price ranged from 700 NxC/ETH to 575NxC/ETH. The price rose every 5 million NxC sold.

The Nexium is listed now and available for trading on Poloniex, Openledger and Etherdelta.

All the Nexiums that weren’t sold during the ICO are meant to be burned.

The Nexium total supply and amount of Nexiums to be burned are yet to be determined, because it depends on the backer ranks calculation.
We can reasonably say that we will burn around 35 Million Nexiums next January, but again this is just an approximate.

To allow people to back the project using Bitcrystals, we created the PROTONEXIUM. They are counterparty assets that we sold on swapbot. They are meant to be exchanged against Nexiums using our tool: https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/protonexium-swap/

IMPORTANT: if you backed the project using BitCrystals during the ICO, exchange your PROTONEXIUM for Nexium by December 30th, 2016.
If you miss this deadline:

- We cannot give you a backer rank and the benefits that go with it, such as the Nexium bonus and assets.

- The only action you can take is to exchange your protonexiums for Nexiums.

Starting in January, our distribution of Backer Ranks will follow this sequence:

- We assign the Backer Ranks and Nexium bonuses to each and every backer.

- We burn the remaining unsold Nexiums.

- We distribute the game blockchain assets to every backer.

NOTE: The backer ranks calculations are based on the ICO transactions only. You can manage your Nexiums as you wish, send them elsewhere or trade them, and it won’t impact your backer rank. Backer ranks are a reward for those who supported the project by participating in our ICO. Purchasing Nexiums now from marketplaces won’t create or alter your backer rank.

This is the link to our timeline: https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/timeline/