Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1254. (Read 2761626 times)

I have a UK account but wouldn't use it. Banks really don't like unusual transactions (which these would be, although you could explain what they are for, a person in the bank would have no idea) and will block your account pretty quick. Mine was blocked just because I went on a online shopping spree. Had a phone call claiming to be the fraud team at the bank and I was yeah right "fuck off". Phoned up the bank on their number and yep it was genuine. Though it would depend on volume and amount banks are very paranoid at the moment.

Because it recreates the functionality of cash.
If everybody who uses cash is a criminal, then we all are
We are talking about having money that can be used like cash
Being able to spend money without EVERYBODY knowing exactly how you spend all your money.

There is nothing wrong with this.

After a month of almost daily work I can present you a full text version of the NxtMyths:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwAGADgnQcrtM3g1cU1VSHZtTGM/edit?usp=sharing

New still unpublished chapters - 7. Rich get richer and 8. (no) Innovations over Bitcoin start at the page 25 (actually 8th chapter is only one known table..). There are also some new tables you probably didn't see on previous pages.

Comments are enabled for grammar mistakes. Facts and wrong ideas can be discussed here...

If you think it's worth any donations, feel free to send them to: 15003961341330858247  


Now I can finally switch to the infographics stage   (infographics will mention the NxtMyths paper as a source...)

AE = asset exchange.. gotcha!  Oh beating Nxt to asset exchange was the one thing I though Emunie really had going for it, though the price smoothing could be nice in the long run, even though I doubt necessary.. glad they can't include the asset exchange anymore anyway, I'm hoping Nxt wins over all anyway.

Regarding the mixing service

1 million Nxt very high for the mixing service, especially for something that doesn't get 100% of the coins into the account you are trying to send to.  I would be willing to do it for significantly cheaper and you don't have to pay me until you see the final product, as long as I have CfB's promise that I would get paid for it.. or something escrow like.  Would it be a problem is I made a small profit off the mixer as well?

My first thought regarding the mixer is don't use a pool so people can't make any money that passed through certain accounts known to be mixing pools as tainted.  

Here's how I would approach it:
Person 1 wants to send 250 Nxt to Address A

They get to the main page and see a simple form that let's them tell us they want to send 250 Nxt to Address A

They are told, ok, send 79 Nxt to Address B,  11 to Address C, and 165 to Address D. Once that is done and verified by checking the blockchain, then their account is added to the list of accounts that need funding, and when Person 2 comes along who needs to mix his/her money comes along, they are told, send 211 Nxt to Address A, 19 to Address C,  Person 3 is told to send 39 Nxt to Address A and 52 Nxt to Address D.. and so on.

If you add up those numbers you'll notice that it works out to 255, this is because we'd also have to direct some money back to our own account, as they'd all have to pay an extra 1% or so transaction fee for using our service and we'd also have to pay the forgers.  Paying a little bit extra for high priority could bump you up the list to be paid off faster and you could optionally say you want to be paid all at once instead of splitting it up but splitting it up seems like it may be slightly more anonymous and you wouldn't have a long list of transactions for the same amounts that could be traced to the prices of whatever item(s) you are paying off this way.  For large enough amounts, you'd tell them tough, you have to split it up.

The only thing you would need to keep track of is which accounts need to receive Nxt and how much.  Just randomly pick one of the first accounts off that list and a random amount that is less than or equal the amount they need, making sure it's split as many times as they would like it to be.  No central pool needed or way of telling that a person ever used a mixer, and as soon as an account is paid off, delete it from the list of accounts that need to receive money.  Maybe also give them an option of getting a receipt so they can tell the person who owns Address A that they money being sent was sent from Address B and Address C and they can check that it adds up to the correct total.

That's how I'd approach it anyway in order to avoid those central mixing pools.  The way to get around it of course is to mix your own money and set-up receiving accounts, then you'd know someone with a certain address was sending money to a mixing pool, because he'd sent you money..  you'd have consider how big of an issue that actually is though, especially if using mixing pools isn't illegal.

Anyway just throwing out an idea to consider, that last point may kill it.  I'd be willing to implement it for significantly lower than 1 million Nxt.

A part of me does wonder though whether integrating this in is good for Nextcoin.. seems to me like a lot of people may wonder why you are being shady about it and trying to obscure the transactions. Just Bitcoin mixers always strike me as the shady side of Bitcoin, that part that allows easy money laundering.  I mean why else would you use one?  The one part of crypto's I could see being made illegal.

Let's do this!

The possibility to use LaTeX with JavaScript could be put into the www site. I'm not sure of the purpose. As of now the site is not open for contributors other than myself. It might serve your goals better on the forums or wiki where contributors may want to share mathematical expressions. It's a great idea for the right place. I look forward to hearing more!

he should just register the alias EmuleIsDumpingHarderThanHisBallsAre
and give us the account#

otherwise he's a troll, which he is anyway.

Team,

It's time to let the exchanges know it's time to add Nxt. Please do the following:


1. Visit the Google Doc for a list of exchanges and their respective email addresses

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuputZyRQ5-5dFY4RlBTdFJWWnhTRUp3SWdiMlBpb3c&usp=sharing#gid=0


2. Email each exchange

- Let them know why you think they should add Nxt (marketcap, features, community etc..)
- You could easily use the same email for each exchange


3. Record your results here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuputZyRQ5-5dFY4RlBTdFJWWnhTRUp3SWdiMlBpb3c&usp=sharing#gid=0


Don't wait for someone else to do the work, let's show the exchanges we're serious about Nxt.

you can find what token is in DGEX deposit page

I figured I'd have to transfer from the client, but is the account token just the sending account? In my case, 16121687483446533972?

Great strategy! Let's do it.

Fantastic... way to step up!

1. It would be nice to get just a few more people willing to do the same as Ricky
2. Who could assist Ricky with the exchange?

I've went through this entire process with Peercoin. If we get our ducks in a row early, it'll be a much easier sell.

John
CoinTropolis

negative opinions are needed here.

i don't thinks it is impossible to copycat Nxt.  i debug it on eclipse and know a little about the source code.
nowdays Nxt is only a skeleton, many functions need to be implemented.
the time flies more quickly, the chance more little for NXT.

I was hoping somebody else would step up to the plate on this one, but since they haven't. here's my two cents, er, shillings worth.  I have a UK Barclays bank account I use to fund my online poker adventures.  It's a totally legal one in my own name, no funny business; I've filed the correct paperwork on it with the IRS and Department of the Treasury here in the US and even voluntarily gave up the number for it during my last security clearance interview.  I go thru a proxy and look like I'm in London since the online poker sites block me otherwise coming from an American IP address block.  All of these gyrations are due to the 2006 UIEGA anti-online-poker act that was passed here in America, land of the free; but I digress...

Bottom line, I've got the UK bank account but I have no desire to sell any of the NXT I've accumulated.  However, I understand the importance of getting NXT hooked up to Bittylicious so I'm willing to try and help.  If I've got enough public trust built up here, maybe people could dump NXT they wanted to sell into one of my toy NXT accounts, Bittilocious could take it out of that account to give to a buyer, send GBP to my Barclays account, and I could send that back to the original NXT holders via Moneybookers/Skrill (I've also got accounts there, too.)

This would require me to be a trusted middleman, which I'm OK with if you are.  

If we really want to pursue this, let me know, I'll do my part to get NXT rolling in the UK.

Good point. If you need Btc asap you'll pay 2.8% for withdraw. Also atm the price is higher on Bter.

Hey QBTC, great work with the site It'll take a lot of time for me to expand on all of this (and other ideas). I'll slowly post about them in the nxtcrypto form META section over the next few days. But for starters, I'll talk a bit about LaTeX support (the last item):

LaTeX is a markup language, like HTML and wiki markup, it's used to format rather than to program. It's mainly used for typesetting. It does a fantastic job of displaying math expressions, so it's used by a lot of scientists, mathematicians and CS people. Compare for instance, the math expressions in here vs the math in this post I just made.

Wikipedia, Wordpress and some forums support LaTeX. joefox says he's going to try to support it in the wiki too.

The links I've shown support LaTeX by converting the expressions in LaTeX syntax into image files. There are scripts that do this. (Don't have links to them handy, ask me if you want them.) It's commonly used, so you can find a lot of help with getting it set up. But this approach has some drawbacks: expressions can't be copied, and the size of images messes up the separation between lines. All this may not be a big deal. Another much more slick approach is MathJax which renders expressions using fonts! This requires Javascript to be activated though.


EDIT: I've just replied to ~5 posts from across dozens of pages in this megathread, all the while going back through the thread (and all the quote pyramids and different convos...) to reference stuff. That's the current communications burden...

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You'll probably have to wait up to 8-12 hours for a deposit after you send Nxt.
As for "ACCOUNT TOKEN", you have to send coins from the client, NOT from Bter or any other exchange. You need to have an access to an account you send money from.

Where do you see an "account token"?

Also i might be intrested in buying some NXT off you. Can offer BTC. Pm if intrested

Didn't find anything on their forum. Do you have a link?