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legendary
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Maybe I'm too paranoid, but CfB is sitting in Lukashenko's back yard.

Hehe, that's true. But I hope noone will accuse that Nxt was created by Belarusian KGB.  Cheesy
legendary
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latest news: an exchange in China called bter will add Nxt to their platform

http://bter.com/article/12
legendary
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I'm launching a cryptocoin based on Nxt AM technology. It will be a PoW coin, but it will be protected against 51% attacks by Nxt PoS algo. If this coin becomes popular then we will see a lot of forks. Any ideas if this will make Nxt more or less popular? Such coins require to have an Nxt wallet, coz transactions a made by paying 1 NXT fee.
any detailed infor?
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By anonymity I meant that he's not revealing himself at all. We're not being beholden to him. These 10M is the only thing he controls. After he gives it he'll be just one of us. You won't be concerned if I disappear, right? ) So don't be concerned about him too.

I can choose 10 people, but:
1. They should be anonymous, so I can't name them )
2. I don't have the passphrase to the account with 10M


I understand you a little better. I think the increased concern for his anonymity (or CfB, etc) is their working knowledge of the software. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but CfB is sitting in Lukashenko's back yard.

So your point is -- these 10 million are the last thing linking BCNext to Nxt. Once the 10 million are distributed, he's free of any responsibility or affiliation. Correct?
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you know what we could do with a few millions..
Reward the true Nxters for their work. You don't have to see them here often, because they prefer working on the project instead of chatting....



Btw if anyone missed it, the chapter 2 is little short:

Nxt Myths 2: The unfair distribution of Nxt
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1 account, 10 million.

9 anonymous people are chosen.

3 get the first part of the password.
3 get the second part of the password.
3 get the last part of the password.

So to send money, we just need to contact 1 of every group.  This needs to be a diverse group so that no one can figure out other people that might be in the group of chosen ones.

Make a script that allows input of the password parts and then executes it.

Or better yet, use some sort of screen sharing where each person then enters their password phrase. Everyone can view at the same time.

I like wesleys's idea much more than the idea of having 10 separate account controlled completely by 10 people. To summarize,  I going to put forward this proposal:

1. BCNext create a completely secure account holding 10 million fund

2. BCNext choose 9 trusted password holders who pledge 1. to never reveal the password or his names; 2. to follow the rules of funding; 3 to act expediently when the his password is required

3.
Following wesleyh's proposal  

3 get the first part of the password.
3 get the second part of the password.
3 get the last part of the password.

4. The funding for a new project would follow my concept  of "open bounty" outlined here

Anyone can step up and present his/ her idea, propose a bounty and let the community decides. So we continue the tradition of asking for bounties in a decentralized fashion as we have been already doing in nextcoin and nxtcrypto forums so far. But now funding would be a bit easier to come by since we have common pool in addition to private donors's fund.

This will work easier when we have the voting system in place. A person presents his/ her idea, propose a bounty and action plan, and set up a vote. Community can ask questions in the meantime and when the voting is over, the project will be funded if the vote passes the majority. A democratic and decentralized method of funding projects.

We can even implement this type of "open bounty" even when the voting system is not yet in place. In fact, we actually did it one time already with the case of Maco's android app as the overwhelming majority refused to fund his 500K NXT request for his app. So we actually had a precedent in place already. Let's continue the funding process in this type of decentralized fashion instead of giving one person/ or group the authority of giving out the funds.

5. When a project get funding, a time will be set so that the pass holders can coordinate and send the necessary fund to the project with funding. Make a script that allows input of the password parts and then executes it.

6. A guideline could be as follow (credit nxtberry)

I would also like to see an efficient donation/reward/funding program approx like this:
* 10 NXT donation to new nxters for basic testing
* 100 NXT reward for minor NXT promotion
* 1000 NXT graphics, branding, major promotion etc.
* 10000 NXT minor development, larger graphics work, applets, wide media promotion etc.
* 100000 NXT larger development / significant projects funding, milestone events

That's the proposal to deal with all the funding issue and all the unclaimed coins. Please support this proposal and end this debate in consensus. Please suggest modification as needed.    
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Money be green
nice, this will reveal nxt real strength. many people looking at nxt as
a currency only atm but nxt is a very complete financial (+ more)
contruction toolset able to create and run many different decentralized
entities. if time is left, i intend to show a DNA* prototype.
not only a dumb piece of code stored within blockchain but more a dynamic,
semi autonom and selfmodifying agent, able to communicate and serve the user.

* decentralized next agent

I hope u won't create Skynet Grin

well, a real autonomous agent in my definition is an entity able to modify and
enhance itself. you can't do this with classical imperative languages like ethereum is
doing by providing a simple C subset, declaring this as a dsl*.
a real agent is able to change it's own sourcecode[1] and persists it's current state
without the need to store additional endless vars lists to archive this.
the agent i am talking about can search the blockchain for properties he need and than
adding these properties into it's own sourcecode. after usage the agent can hibernate again
within blockchain until his services are needed again. this comes autonomous closer
in my definitions. not perfect but a good start.

*domain specific language

edit: [1] while he is running

  

There's no reason why he could not change his sourcecode while he is not running (by community/member consensus).
legendary
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I'm launching a cryptocoin based on Nxt AM technology. It will be a PoW coin, but it will be protected against 51% attacks by Nxt PoS algo. If this coin becomes popular then we will see a lot of forks. Any ideas if this will make Nxt more or less popular? Such coins require to have an Nxt wallet, coz transactions a made by paying 1 NXT fee.

That's great I think. And as more forks as better for Nxt.
legendary
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No, it still doesn't work..

Hmmm... I will leave the suggestions to others then.   Sad

If you use start.bat, edit it and add "pause" in the last line. You should see some errors in command window.
hero member
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nice, this will reveal nxt real strength. many people looking at nxt as
a currency only atm but nxt is a very complete financial (+ more)
contruction toolset able to create and run many different decentralized
entities. if time is left, i intend to show a DNA* prototype.
not only a dumb piece of code stored within blockchain but more a dynamic,
semi autonom and selfmodifying agent, able to communicate and serve the user.

* decentralized next agent

I hope u won't create Skynet Grin

well, a real autonomous agent in my definition is an entity able to modify and
enhance itself. you can't do this with classical imperative languages like ethereum is
doing by providing a simple C subset, declaring this as a dsl*.
a real agent is able to change it's own sourcecode[1] and persists it's current state
without the need to store additional endless vars lists to archive this.
the agent i am talking about can search the blockchain for properties he need and than
adding these properties into it's own sourcecode. after usage the agent can hibernate again
within blockchain until his services are needed again. this comes autonomous closer
in my definitions. not perfect but a good start.

*domain specific language

edit: [1] while he is running

  
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
nice, this will reveal nxt real strength. many people looking at nxt as
a currency only atm but nxt is a very complete financial (+ more)
contruction toolset able to create and run many different decentralized
entities. if time is left, i intend to show a DNA* prototype.
not only a dumb piece of code stored within blockchain but more a dynamic,
semi autonom and selfmodifying agent, able to communicate and serve the user.

* decentralized next agent

I hope u won't create Skynet Grin

 Grin
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Hey guys, what am I doing wrong?
I updated to 0.5.8 this morning and I cannot access my wallet. I never get the wallet page in Chrome. I went to processes tab in windows and started the 0.5.8 and I see a javaw.exe process which shows up, works 10 seconds and than it shuts itself down. I than tried with 0.5.7 and same thing happened. I reinstalled Java and same thing happens.
Wierd because yesterday was all working perfect.
Thanks for help

Did you use .bak files from previous version?

No. Should I have used them?
Thanks

I would definitely try it... but do a reboot too... to start fresh with all the processes.

No, it still doesn't work..

Are you on a Mac?

https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_mac.xml#chrome

Code:
Why can't I use Chrome with Java 7 on my Mac?
Chrome is a 32-bit browser. A 64-bit browser (Safari or Firefox, for example) is required to run Java 7 on Mac OS X. 32-bit browsers such as Chrome do not support Java 7 on the Mac platform.
legendary
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BCNext decides or community votes and recrute candidates.?

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Community. If BCNext wants a say, maybe he should decloak from time to time and drop in.

He didn't say he wants to pick 10 people? I said he should pick them. If he wanted to choose by himself he'd already did it. Anyway what's your problem with BCNext's anonymity? He's obviously cares about Nxt. What for you want him on the forum?

If you want him to have a say, what's the problem with him stopping in here and stating it?

Where did I say I have a problem with his anonymity? He can post here all day under his name BCNext, I'm not demanding he post a driver license or anything else. I think it's unwise for anyone in his position, or CfB, etc to reveal themselves. I'm totally cool with anonymity.

I'm not cool with being beholden to someone that doesn't participate here. He's not the Wizard of Oz. Come out from behind the curtain.

I mean this with 100% sincerity -- why don't YOU pick the names? I would trust you before I trust him. Who are your 10 names?

Are we still going to be conjuring BCNext's name a year from now when we need our hand held?

By anonymity I meant that he's not revealing himself at all. We're not being beholden to him. These 10M is the only thing he controls. After he gives it he'll be just one of us. You won't be concerned if I disappear, right? ) So don't be concerned about him too.

I can choose 10 people, but:
1. They should be anonymous, so I can't name them )
2. I don't have the passphrase to the account with 10M
legendary
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I'm launching a cryptocoin based on Nxt AM technology. It will be a PoW coin, but it will be protected against 51% attacks by Nxt PoS algo. If this coin becomes popular then we will see a lot of forks. Any ideas if this will make Nxt more or less popular? Such coins require to have an Nxt wallet, coz transactions a made by paying 1 NXT fee.

Yess this would make NXT more popular in the mining community, but not by greenpeace Cheesy

Greenpeace never cared about environment, they care about money. How do you think why protesters magically stop to protest?

That being said, we can pay them. In NXT ofc.
legendary
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nice, this will reveal nxt real strength. many people looking at nxt as
a currency only atm but nxt is a very complete financial (+ more)
contruction toolset able to create and run many different decentralized
entities. if time is left, i intend to show a DNA* prototype.
not only a dumb piece of code stored within blockchain but more a dynamic,
semi autonom and selfmodifying agent, able to communicate and serve the user.

* decentralized next agent

I hope u won't create Skynet Grin
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NXT is the future
I'm launching a cryptocoin based on Nxt AM technology. It will be a PoW coin, but it will be protected against 51% attacks by Nxt PoS algo. If this coin becomes popular then we will see a lot of forks. Any ideas if this will make Nxt more or less popular? Such coins require to have an Nxt wallet, coz transactions a made by paying 1 NXT fee.

Yess this would make NXT more popular in the mining community, but not by greenpeace Cheesy

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BCNext decides or community votes and recrute candidates.?

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Community. If BCNext wants a say, maybe he should decloak from time to time and drop in.

He didn't say he wants to pick 10 people? I said he should pick them. If he wanted to choose by himself he'd already did it. Anyway what's your problem with BCNext's anonymity? He's obviously cares about Nxt. What for you want him on the forum?

If you want him to have a say, what's the problem with him stopping in here and stating it?

Where did I say I have a problem with his anonymity? He can post here all day under his name BCNext, I'm not demanding he post a driver license or anything else. I think it's unwise for anyone in his position, or CfB, etc to reveal themselves. I'm totally cool with anonymity.

I'm not cool with being beholden to someone that doesn't participate here. He's not the Wizard of Oz. Come out from behind the curtain.

I mean this with 100% sincerity -- why don't YOU pick the names? I would trust you before I trust him. Who are your 10 names?

Are we still going to be conjuring BCNext's name a year from now when we need our hand held?
legendary
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Case:

Community decided to pay 10,000 NXT to X

Who of the 10 accounts will pay?

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Each will pay 1/10 or 1K NXT.
legendary
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Are you trying to completely KILL an upcoming IPO by any chance?   Wink

No. It's just my project for the AM contest. Smiley
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