NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1759.

salsacz

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 09:36:36 AM

Brainstorming

I'd like to introduce a concept of a new feature called Account Control. This feature will allow to do different things with ur accounts. For example, u will be able to set a lock on an account to prohibit any outgoing transactions until a special condition met (e.g. an incoming transaction from a predefined account). Another example is Pooled Forging, when an account leases its forging power to another account.

Please, post here what u would like to see in Account Control.

Nxt transfer, Alias selling and buying prohibition until a special condition met.

But hackers could probably register, when the special condition happens.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 04:03:38 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 04:01:41 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 03:58:44 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 03:53:35 PM

That should be easy.

Or u can use an alias that contains CRC.

Then you should enforce using CRCed aliases only.

It's a client soft issue.

This solution is ugly.

1) You will have aliases like CfB\0CFA67D9 - looks ugly
2) In another client your alias will be just CfB => people will get confused what your alias really is.
3) Some people won't use aliases at all and will continue to send money to nowhere.

It's a total mess.

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Becomes boring:

[2014-01-08 13:30:43.918] "communicationLoggingMask" = "0"
[2014-01-08 13:30:43.918] Loading transactions...
[2014-01-08 13:30:46.403] ...Done
[2014-01-08 13:30:46.404] Loading blocks...
[2014-01-08 13:30:48.561] ...Done
[2014-01-08 13:30:48.561] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-01-08 13:30:49.980] ...Done
2014-01-08 13:30:50.023:INFO:oejsh.ContextHandler:main: Started o.e.j.w.WebAppCo
ntext@5577d330{/,file:/D:/nxt/webapps/root/,AVAILABLE}{D:\nxt\webapps\root}
2014-01-08 13:30:50.039:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:main: Started ServerConnector@
20bb82ca{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:7874}
2014-01-08 13:30:50.221:INFO:oejs.ServerConnector:main: Started ServerConnector@
4e54b5d4{SSL-http/1.1}{0.0.0.0:7875}
[2014-01-08 16:47:54.232] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-01-08 16:48:18.732] ...Done
[2014-01-08 23:01:01.653] Re-scanning blockchain...
[2014-01-08 23:01:22.350] Generated an incorrect block. Waiting for the next one
...
[2014-01-08 23:01:23.353] Generated an incorrect block. Waiting for the next one
...
[2014-01-08 23:01:24.357] Generated an incorrect block. Waiting for the next one
...
[2014-01-08 23:01:28.602] ...Done

What the hell is going on? Never had forged a block. Client 0.5.3

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 04:01:41 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 03:58:44 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 03:53:35 PM

That should be easy.

Or u can use an alias that contains CRC.

Then you should enforce using CRCed aliases only.

It's a client soft issue.

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Quote from: msin on January 08, 2014, 03:57:07 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:50:11 PM

how is someone sending lots of 0 NXT transactions for fee of 1 NXT to genesis?

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=11197541541396848736

Alias.

ah. didnt realize that those went to genesis

stdset

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 03:58:44 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 03:53:35 PM

That should be easy.

Or u can use an alias that contains CRC.

Then you should enforce using CRCed aliases only.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: stdset on January 08, 2014, 03:53:35 PM

That should be easy.

Or u can use an alias that contains CRC.

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:50:11 PM

how is someone sending lots of 0 NXT transactions for fee of 1 NXT to genesis?

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=11197541541396848736

Alias.

S3MKi

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Quote from: S3MKi on January 08, 2014, 12:51:36 PM

Hi dudes. I created few days ago fan-page vk.com/nxtvsbtc on russian social network to promote NXT for russians, belarusians and ukrainians.
Now we have over 2500 followers. We start competition today. People must join to fan page and share this post( video about nxt) http://vk.com/wall-64086699_17 The competition will finish 20January. The winner must has more re-post of this video from his profile then others. Bounty is 1000NXT! After finish we will start next competition. Many people will know about NXT.
I'm waiting my withdraw from dgex and I will thank you if you will donate this project. Best regards
NXT 5552153634766291106

Somebody donated 499nxt. Thank you bro!

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Quote from: Jean-Luc on January 08, 2014, 07:53:56 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on January 08, 2014, 07:50:19 AM

We don't integrate some sort of CRC because of saving a tiny bit of memory in the core code and because sort-of-CRC could be done in a/the client, right?

No, because in the core and when sending across the network the transactions are already signed with the sender public key. Any corruption in the transaction content would automatically invalidate the signature.

So what? Buffer, from which recipient's address is taken could be corrupted, user could made a typo.

Maybe somebody don't understand. One can make a very easy experiment: send small amount of Nxt to a known address whith one digit randomly changed. Such transactions are accepted and gladly confirmed by the network. That wouldn't happen with Bitcoin or any of it's copycats.

There is only one proper solution for that. Extend Nxt address with (preferably) 4 bytes of checksum. I'm not a Java developer, I don't know details (and I haven't read the code), but I stronly beleive there are readily available classes for big ints, use them instead of primitive data type which is apparently being used for addresses now. Or write your own class. You need a method to take significative part of a new address, method to convert old address to the new form. From block XXXXX use new addresses, make proper conversions when you deal with old blocks. That should be easy.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 03:45:15 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:42:47 PM

CfB keeps hinting on something fantastic coming from BCNext on the use of these 20 digit short accounts, so I doubt what you ask will happen. Although I wonder if this fantastic thing is the ability to mine for that 'hiberNXT' whenever curve asics become available.

I'm not hinting, the idea is simple:

This gives us ability to find out what coins r lost and what coins r hoarded.

All, consider this as fair warning. Buy 1 alias for 1 NXT or something. OR IM COMING FOR YOUR NXT WITH MY CURVE25519 ASIC IN 2015

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how is someone sending lots of 0 NXT transactions for fee of 1 NXT to genesis?

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=11197541541396848736

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:42:47 PM

CfB keeps hinting on something fantastic coming from BCNext on the use of these 20 digit short accounts, so I doubt what you ask will happen. Although I wonder if this fantastic thing is the ability to mine for that 'hiberNXT' whenever curve asics become available.

I'm not hinting, the idea is simple:

This gives us ability to find out what coins r lost and what coins r hoarded.

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Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:37:50 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

2 things

1: from my home computer, I don't see a box to enter a passphrase when sending nxt, so I always get wrong passphrase error when sending...

2. If I want to make an account on an offline computer, what stops someone from colliding the account? if an account is the last 15 digits of a long public key ( as i currently understand it...) and I make an account on an offline computer that ends with key 12345 and send it to that account, what stops someone from making an account that ends with 12345 that has a different passphrase, and stealing my nxt?

its not when ends, its what begins.

but the answer is nothing. so dont do that. send 1 next to yourself from that account, you'll have to burn 1NXT to do so, but then you lock that account into the blockchain

I humbly suggest the option of sending coins to long public keys then for safe offline storage...

also, please help me with my sending coins issue Sad

CfB keeps hinting on something fantastic coming from BCNext on the use of these 20 digit short accounts, so I doubt what you ask will happen. Although I wonder if this fantastic thing is the ability to mine for that 'hiberNXT' whenever curve asics become available.

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Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:37:50 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

2 things

1: from my home computer, I don't see a box to enter a passphrase when sending nxt, so I always get wrong passphrase error when sending...

2. If I want to make an account on an offline computer, what stops someone from colliding the account? if an account is the last 15 digits of a long public key ( as i currently understand it...) and I make an account on an offline computer that ends with key 12345 and send it to that account, what stops someone from making an account that ends with 12345 that has a different passphrase, and stealing my nxt?

its not when ends, its what begins.

but the answer is nothing. so dont do that. send 1 next to yourself from that account, you'll have to burn 1NXT to do so, but then you lock that account into the blockchain

I humbly suggest the option of sending coins to long public keys then for safe offline storage...

also, please help me with my sending coins issue Sad

Are you running latest nrs?

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 08, 2014, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

2 things

1: from my home computer, I don't see a box to enter a passphrase when sending nxt, so I always get wrong passphrase error when sending...

2. If I want to make an account on an offline computer, what stops someone from colliding the account? if an account is the last 15 digits of a long public key ( as i currently understand it...) and I make an account on an offline computer that ends with key 12345 and send it to that account, what stops someone from making an account that ends with 12345 that has a different passphrase, and stealing my nxt?

its not when ends, its what begins.

but the answer is nothing. so dont do that. send 1 next to yourself from that account, you'll have to burn 1NXT to do so, but then you lock that account into the blockchain

I humbly suggest the option of sending coins to long public keys then for safe offline storage...

also, please help me with my sending coins issue Sad

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Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

2. If I want to make an account on an offline computer, what stops someone from colliding the account? if an account is the last 15 digits of a long public key ( as i currently understand it...) and I make an account on an offline computer that ends with key 12345 and send it to that account, what stops someone from making an account that ends with 12345 that has a different passphrase, and stealing my nxt?

Nothing stops. U have to send an outgoing transaction from that account to secure it.

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Quote from: Jean-Luc on January 08, 2014, 01:52:14 PM

Quote from: marcus03 on January 08, 2014, 12:46:52 PM

What happened in the old version when the account number was pasted twice, so it read 1295619013897570058912956190138975700589 ?

In the old version 1295619013897570058912956190138975700589 would be interpreted as 6667516829191161453. Now it gives an error.

Good bug hunting!

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Quote from: Noitev on January 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

2 things

1: from my home computer, I don't see a box to enter a passphrase when sending nxt, so I always get wrong passphrase error when sending...

2. If I want to make an account on an offline computer, what stops someone from colliding the account? if an account is the last 15 digits of a long public key ( as i currently understand it...) and I make an account on an offline computer that ends with key 12345 and send it to that account, what stops someone from making an account that ends with 12345 that has a different passphrase, and stealing my nxt?

its not when ends, its what begins.

but the answer is nothing. so dont do that. send 1 next to yourself from that account, you'll have to burn 1NXT to do so, but then you lock that account into the blockchain

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

Quote from: Ola on December 13, 2013, 01:18:28 AM

Quote from: bybitcoin on December 11, 2013, 05:21:50 PM

Quote from: klee on December 11, 2013, 04:51:32 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 11, 2013, 04:38:35 PM

Quote from: klee on December 11, 2013, 04:33:59 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on December 11, 2013, 03:52:31 PM

My node works more stable with enabled hallmark protection. Hey, stakeholders, only 10% marked their nodes. R u interested in success of Nxt?

They wait to dump their coins @Cryptsy Sad

It's rather good than bad. More they dump, more new Nxters we will get.

My issue here is that it seems it is the only thing they care for!
It is a free market, let the price discovery run on it's own

But they don't care about Nxt - they don't even care in what you just said, that dumping will help the network. They just want to sell when they can en masse..

No, some of them also care about spamming the thread by saying this is excellent or that is terrific while keeping a Canadian singer DG lady photo at their logo, but not a hand of help or a single dime of donation.. amazing!

Sorry klee for the delay, dude I still have problem with the client, will send you 200K to let you continue the giveaway ASAP.
Just for the public to know, I already received 400K from Pouncer, 400K from Neer.gh and 97K from klee, which I keep to supply the posted bounties (video-article-whitepaper) and the giveaway (which shall run until the end of 2013). Neer.gh promised me to donate 600K more to secure the source for paying the bounty awards.

I have an idea: perhaps we can invite stake-holders to offer to the community their interest to fund some partnership projects. For example let's say I post a proposal in the bounty thread offering 3M Nxt to anyone who can create or bring a poker platform running in Nxt, so he/she and I may become partners and start a business together and share the whole ownership and future profits at let's say X% and Y% profit (it was just an example, I am not really proposing this personally), or a digital good shop. This has a lot of benefits, enlarging Nxt marketplace and popularizing it, distributing the initial investment fund into that economy and finally benefiting the stake-holders more and last longer than with a raw sell-dumping at this or that target price. This will also creates jobs-funds for interested developers to use their muscles into building the blocks.
What do you think?

I am already working on this..I talked to come-from-beyond a little about it..right now I am in the planning stages. Real p2p decentralized poker platform funded by stake holder and it pays dividend to its stake holders..Based on my plans I should have the user interface functioning and out within a couple of weeks and full application in 8 weeks. Also worth noting that although it would be a primary nxt application, you would also be able to fund your account with bitcoin and two of the top alternative tokens.

So Ola was working on Poker... I will send him link to this via Facebook..

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