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Quote from: MtheK on January 08, 2014, 04:49:27 AM

Hello Guys,
I published the first alpha version of my Android App "NXT Watcher".
See https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2588.0.html for further details and install instructions.

Screenshot to get a first impression of how it looks like:

I need a lot help testing on different devices, especially Gingerbread and Honeycomb!

So if you own an Android device, follow the link above and please provide some feedback

Additionally there is a 1k bounty for providing a good looking, Android-ready laucher logo for the app -- two guys working on it already.

And now the obligate NXT signature Grin

:
If you like it, you are welcome to donate a few NXT to keep me motivated

6887853321138092071

Cool stuff. Unfortunately I only have shitty apple products (I hate them, but get them from my company so...)

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:14:34 AM

Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:08:52 AM

Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?

I don't use them, looks like a waste of time to me. I've seen a lot of projects that had a lot of specifications, testing and other voodoo magic things and still failed.

+1!

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

No, if NXT price is 1 USD

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Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:15:50 AM

Hmm, it's good to test old features you already had to see if they're still working correctly after you made some changes to other functionality. Does jean-luc use these? Really, you set your tests up once and you're good.

Aye, it's good. Anyone is willing to join the team as Unit test writer?

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Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:14:17 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

How much data can be in 1 arbitrary message?

1000 bytes currently. If u need more then ask Jean-Luc to change MAX_ARBITRARY_MESSAGE_LENGTH constant.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:14:34 AM

Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:08:52 AM

Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?

I don't use them, looks like a waste of time to me. I've seen a lot of projects that had a lot of specifications, testing and other voodoo magic things and still failed.

Hmm, it's good to test old features you already had to see if they're still working correctly after you made some changes to other functionality. Does jean-luc use these? Really, you set your tests up once and you're good.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

I think you mean bybitcoin.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

Wouldn't that be a very slow poker game tho?

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Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:08:52 AM

Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?

I don't use them, looks like a waste of time to me. I've seen a lot of projects that had a lot of specifications, testing and other voodoo magic things and still failed.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:10:44 AM

Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

How much data can be in 1 arbitrary message?

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Where the guy who was going to create a decentralized poker game? With AM it becomes possible.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 05:07:07 AM

Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:00:36 AM

Also, what is the ETA of this feature?

I can't find any bugs. Gonna test it for a couple of hours more and then send the code to Jean-Luc for review. He will decide at what block height the AM will be activated.

Just wondering if you guys are using unit tests now?

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Quote from: wesleyh on January 08, 2014, 05:00:36 AM

Also, what is the ETA of this feature?

I can't find any bugs. Gonna test it for a couple of hours more and then send the code to Jean-Luc for review. He will decide at what block height the AM will be activated.

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Quote from: landomata on January 08, 2014, 05:03:34 AM

Messaging is mentioned NOWHERE in the above announcement.

Nobody said that?!

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Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:59:26 AM

People are confused already.

Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients

This will confuse them more. AM r still messages.

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Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:59:26 AM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 04:55:21 AM

Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:52:51 AM

I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.

- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:

10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.

So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!

Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?

So ?

Agree.

We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different.

People are confused already.

Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients

Messaging is mentioned NOWHERE in the above announcement.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 04:55:21 AM

Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:52:51 AM

I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.

- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:

10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.

So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!

Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?

So ?

Agree.

We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different.

So arbitrary messaging is not meant for messaging? Better to call it arbitrary data then. No reason to make those android/iphone apps then?

Also, what is the ETA of this feature?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 08, 2014, 04:55:21 AM

Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:52:51 AM

I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.

- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:

10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.

So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!

Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?

So ?

Agree.

We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different.

People are confused already.

Then lets rename 'message' to 'data store' and define this function as P2P information storage available for selected number of recepients

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Quote from: ZeroTheGreat on January 08, 2014, 01:47:10 AM

Quote from: pandaisftw on January 08, 2014, 12:20:31 AM

I'm curious though, how do you mean voting would suppress people?

Well, if u agree to vote, u automatically agree to lose in future in some cases. Until u'll lose something important it seems like nothing wrong.

Of course you'll lose some votes, not everyone thinks the same way. Why is this bad? This is decentralization. Why do you consider forking (which you can still do with voting system in place BTW...) a superior alternative when we can save everyone the worry and pain of lost transactions that comes with your method?

Provide an example of something important that will go wrong, please.

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That's not true. For avoid it u can reconfigure your client.

Why do u mention hallmarking?

Hallmarking is what protects us against zombie nodes. We have already been attacked by a large amount of zombie nodes sending out bogus packets to eat bandwidth... you really still think voting by number of nodes is still the best? How can you tell if people are really voting with their nodes and it's not just an attacker? An attacker can just come along when people are divided over an issue and start propping up dummy nodes left and right to completely fragment the network. NXT is strong right now because we have a consensus. A voting system can provide that consensus without fragmenting the network.

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Quote from: intel on January 08, 2014, 04:52:51 AM

I dont think it's worth to release the one of the hottest and wanted functions of NXT (P2P messages) with so many restrictions which 'll seriously limit its usage.

- Message volume is limited by its price (1 NXT per message)
- Message volume is limited by NXT protocol itself, so even with message price correction:

10 messages per hour per each user = 240 messages * 1500 users = 360,000 messages.

So, are we going to release some marketing trick or real P2P messaging revolution? What a joke!

Could anyone tell me , who is your niche for P2P message delivery with the price of 1 NXT? Edward Snowden ? Julian Assange ? Who else?

So ?

Agree.

We shouldn't confuse messages as a way to send data to a person with arbitrary messages as a way to store data on the blockchain. They r completely different.

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