very nice community
tend to believe it is lopie again he is dumping since day one below price
Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 180. (Read 2761645 times)
case is one of your trusted members founders is dumping nxt to oblivion
very nice community
tend to believe it is lopie again he is dumping since day one below price
very nice community
tend to believe it is lopie again he is dumping since day one below price
BS. Made up numbers.
Go back to doing some relevant FUD, at least that would have some credibility to it.
Go back to doing some relevant FUD, at least that would have some credibility to it.
dumpedy dump
500k dump on bter.you will never see 0.00008 again whales dumping 500k at a time
Even if that was the case (which it isn't, you're making up stories again), they can only do it for so long.
He mixed it up with this buy order:
Price Amount(NXT) Total(BTC)
0.00007000 515,751.386 36.10260
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007001 714.183 0.05000
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007011 5778.000 0.40510
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007004 10000.000 0.70040
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007030 12803.698 0.90010
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007000 6922.899 0.48460
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007011 59967.194 4.20430
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007064 1500.000 0.10596
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007004 14343.232 1.00460
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007015 2200.000 0.15433
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007010 5000.000 0.35050
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007035 21457.000 1.50950
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007001 29950.000 2.09680
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007012 976.000 0.06844
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007010 185449.358 13.00000
2014-03-23 17:31:35 Sell 0.00007030 5000.000 0.35150
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007302 3968.775 0.28980
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007100 1500.000 0.10650
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007260 764.462 0.05550
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007170 1000.000 0.07170
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007300 7458.329 0.54446
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007211 1400.000 0.10095
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007160 1500.000 0.10740
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007300 54.794 0.00400
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007210 16400.832 1.18250
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007302 741.244 0.05413
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007145 1500.000 0.10718
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007270 20.000 0.00145
2014-03-23 17:31:34 Sell 0.00007170 1630.000 0.1168
dumpedy dump
500k dump on bter.you will never see 0.00008 again whales dumping 500k at a time
Good morning, Emule, no matter what you do there'll always be a place for you in our hearts....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_gdN94iMQk
dumpedy dump
500k dump on bter.you will never see 0.00008 again whales dumping 500k at a time
Even if that was the case (which it isn't, you're making up stories again), they can only do it for so long.
He mixed it up with this buy order:
Price Amount(NXT) Total(BTC)
0.00007000 515,751.386 36.10260
dumpedy dump
500k dump on bter.you will never see 0.00008 again whales dumping 500k at a time
Even if that was the case (which it isn't, you're making up stories again), they can only do it for many times.
dumpedy dump
500k dump on bter.you will never see 0.00008 again whales dumping 500k at a time
Can we get an SSL cert for it? They are actually very cheap, I believe even free for a single server cert wwith startSSL. If you order it with nxtcrypto.org domain then I will do the email part when it comes in.
But I wish I could get a domain-wide wildcard cert donated from infrastructure committee. But they refused the request. So, JLP/CFB, please tell me your opinion on these light clients with client side signing, when they connect to VPSs, are SSL connections needed? If so I will just disable SSL on all my VPSs and we can just forget about SSL altogether.
Except for forums And also I wish we could get one for wiki, but the infrastructure commitee deems it unnecessary there as well.
But I wish I could get a domain-wide wildcard cert donated from infrastructure committee. But they refused the request. So, JLP/CFB, please tell me your opinion on these light clients with client side signing, when they connect to VPSs, are SSL connections needed? If so I will just disable SSL on all my VPSs and we can just forget about SSL altogether.
Except for forums And also I wish we could get one for wiki, but the infrastructure commitee deems it unnecessary there as well.
@opticalcarrier: Why don't you follow-up on our (InfCom) comments and questions. As EvilDave said, SSL for client <-> NRS communication was turned down by InfCom. Regarding, the wiki hosted on nxtcrypto.org, just one member of InfCom (me) asked a question in our thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5769376), but we got no answer.
Then wesleyh posts on the SSL issue (https://bitbucket.org/nxtinfrastructure/committee/issue/20/ssl-certificate-for-nxtcryptoorg), I have another question on this and there is no follow-up. It just feels like you don't have a case.
We are not gods. We might be off light-years. Just follow-up and convince us.
I think more than anything NXT suffers from lack of people who have both a deep knowledge of the project and who have strong presentation skills. You have some people in your group who have good presentation skills (like Kris) but who feel out of depth when it comes to technical stuff.
Anybody I talk to needs to be able to explain to my why it's not an insanely bad tradeoff to not have a wallet.dat and to require a very difficult to remember, unique brainwallet to be entered for every action. That is by far the biggest barrier to actual use, and I've yet to hear a good solution.
Anybody I talk to needs to be able to explain to my why it's not an insanely bad tradeoff to not have a wallet.dat and to require a very difficult to remember, unique brainwallet to be entered for every action. That is by far the biggest barrier to actual use, and I've yet to hear a good solution.
Since you wrote you use NXT Solaris: I have implemented a file wallet already in my client for the next version. Users can then choose if they want to use it or use brainwallet secrets.
That being said, I think it would be way cooler to just scan my thumb print on my iphone, or had some program that I could just type in a simple password that unlocked my bigger password to unlock my account. I think that kind of thing will happen more in the future though. The passphrase being so long in a way is something I like too. People proved to me with statistics that if I make it long and random, it can't be brute forced.
Jabo -- you should look into a program called Keepass. It's exactly what you're talking about. You make up 1 master passphrase, and it will create an encrypted database that can store your Nxt pass phrases, forum passwords, online banking and so forth.
It will randomly generate secure passwords for you and save them. When you want to log on somewhere or open your Nxt wallet, you copy & paste the password out of Keepass, or you can even have it type the password for you.
This has the extra advantage that if, say, Bitcointalk gets hacked (again) and they get your password, the attackers don't get access to your email, and bank accounts, and Nxt wallet and so on.
You can backup your password file into cloud storage since the password file itself is encrypted. Just make sure you have one really strong master password that will protect all your other ones.
In fact, using a program like Keepass could be a good substitute for the wallet.dat file that many people think is lacking in Nxt.
Okay, I will look into it tonight. :-) Thank you.
Hopefully i'll soon know enough to be able to post my own detailed/reasoned comments in favour of NXT wrt to articles such as this:
just published here: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/22/ripple-vs-open-transactions/
In the meantime looking forward to reading such comments from others
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Ripple vs Open Transactions: Which Platform is the Future of Payments?
just published here: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/22/ripple-vs-open-transactions/
In the meantime looking forward to reading such comments from others
I really strongly think this is not right.
People are going to have to do research anyway before they buy and once they do it will be totally obvious which one is the legit one, it will be the one that they already own some of. alternatively inorder for them to feel safe buying with out doing research the asset will have to be well established. In this scenario the barrier to entry cost would actually be relatively insignificant compared to the costs associated with artificially generating that credibility through having huge amounts of fees payed to miners through the buying and selling of your asset.
im really quite certain that, considering the recent change to the conditions, the benefits gained from having a vibrant ecosystem of tokens would outweigh the cost of potential scammers, especially since people will need to take basic precautions against scammers anyway no matter what the issue fee.
People are going to have to do research anyway before they buy and once they do it will be totally obvious which one is the legit one, it will be the one that they already own some of. alternatively inorder for them to feel safe buying with out doing research the asset will have to be well established. In this scenario the barrier to entry cost would actually be relatively insignificant compared to the costs associated with artificially generating that credibility through having huge amounts of fees payed to miners through the buying and selling of your asset.
im really quite certain that, considering the recent change to the conditions, the benefits gained from having a vibrant ecosystem of tokens would outweigh the cost of potential scammers, especially since people will need to take basic precautions against scammers anyway no matter what the issue fee.
This makes sense. Let's think how we'll come to a consensus.
Dude, this is pretty simple. You were working on "digital good" ("porn store"). If one video (that costs $5 on clips4sale) costs $40, the seller needs to sell 8 of them to just make it even
This is not going to work. Trust me.
No one is opening a digital "good" store if it costs that much to add a new clip
Asset exchange is not for digital goods. It is for parts of a company.
In fact, cfb is working on a digital goods store as we speak.
I thought it would use the same infrastructure.
So it's totally new code that will become part of NRS?
Yes.
What about non-digital goods? Lets say I want to sell a USB drive that's worth $10?
Neither is fit for your needs. (Due to trust issues etc)
Trust issues aren't an issue if the parameters of the AE will allow for verification of sellers. There will also be the opportunity too include service providers to secure purchasing. And people should get to decide "trust" issues for themselves; no one should be able to tell someone else what an "asset" is.
Relying on the user having a password manager is not good. The idea is to have something like a wallet.dat because people know it. I think providing different options for the user (brainwallet (and lastpass/1password), wallet file) is the best solution so far. Of course we should talk about details and other options.
http://107.170.117.237/index.php/topic,56.0.html
http://107.170.117.237/index.php/topic,56.0.html
Wesley,
Have you considered implementing a random character generator into the nxt client, and then saving that string in a local file encrypted by a password chosen on the first login? It would act as the equivalent of a wallet file.
I can write the scripts for you in whatever language you need...
Have you considered implementing a random character generator into the nxt client, and then saving that string in a local file encrypted by a password chosen on the first login? It would act as the equivalent of a wallet file.
I can write the scripts for you in whatever language you need...
Here is Lastpass and wesley client in action. No need to type the password again -- just one click to login. These password managers are pretty secure (probably more secure than custom walet.dat).
Passwords are encrypted with AES and you get online encrypted backups that can be protected with 2 factor authentication.
Back up is very important security step as losing walet.dat would be disaster
It would be great to see a "NXTpresscenter.org or something where people who can speak about various parts can make themselves known and some faces and names can be put to the project.
+1 That's what I planned to do.
And I think we are in desperate need of a pool where we (and journalists, conference organizers) can choose from for different occasions (interviews, podium discussions, conference attending, speaker positions). I would like to collect names and some infos from the community for this. If anybody has any name suggestions or ideas, please PM me or reply here.
Why does predicting who will be the author of the block help you? Because you can change around your nxt in order to make sure that the hash of the account balances leads to you being the author?
precisely
Also not sure why it's 0.1 nxt per guess? Why actually move around the funds? Why not just do it all offchain, use your own hashing function and when you find one that works, then you do the actual transaction?
because you have to move your nxt to the account that you believe will be the one to win 1440 blocks in the future. transaction fees are 0.1 NXT
And you do have to predict what the account balances 1440 steps into the future will be because it's a hash of those account balances that determines who will forge and small changes to those account balances should lead to big changes in the hash output, right?
no its a hash of the public key used to author the block + the generation signature of the previous block. account balances only multiply the threshold for acceptable block submission. if you were able to accurately guess every single one of the nxt 1440 block authors than you would only need 1 nxt in the account to forge with that account because you could calculate the most efficient private key and so wouldnt need the stake multiplier.
Something obviously hasn't clicked yet.. heading to bed hopefully it will tonight, thanks Anon 136.
its not easy to wrap ones head around, keep asking questions, its clear from the sorts of questions you are asking that you are capable of understanding.
Wesley,
Have you considered implementing a random character generator into the nxt client, and then saving that string in a local file encrypted by a password chosen on the first login? It would act as the equivalent of a wallet file.
I can write the scripts for you in whatever language you need...
Have you considered implementing a random character generator into the nxt client, and then saving that string in a local file encrypted by a password chosen on the first login? It would act as the equivalent of a wallet file.
I can write the scripts for you in whatever language you need...
Or the user can just save it in a browser based password manager (I use lastpass but there are several other choices) They won't have type to the password again as the plugins have one click auto-fill option, and the users will have an encrypted backup online with 2 factor authentication.
Firstly - Why not allow the user to print out the brain wallet password encrypted with their friendly password as a hard / cold backup.
You can do it as a QR code which can be scanned back in by a webcam.
If the data is encrypted with their 'friendly' wallet password someone cant just 'scan it in and use it'
Secondly if its all web based why not use the browser to help you - you get it to store the password for you.
Why not store the encrypted brainwallet password in the browser password cache, lots of browsers have plans for password syncing like apple does with iCloud keychain, if its seen as a password entry field by the browser then won't apps like last pass will automatically manage it?
So the client front page would have 'encrypted brain wallet password field' - visible/invisible?? recognised as a password field for autofill and the browser would fill this in, for first time use you could have a generate brain wallet password button that populates this field.
Also this form would have a friendly password field where the user puts their friendly password to decrypt the encrypted brain wallet password.
ideally you want to set the field properties to stop the normal password being stored, i.e. so its not stored with the brain wallet password it is used to decrypt which it seems you can do from some of the websites I have visited.
for ultra paranoid users you could even have the scan QR code on the front page of the client to retrieve the encrypted brain wallet password - not storing it online at all and then enter the friendly password to unlock it.
NXT passphrases need to be at least 50 sufficiently random characters.
- you forgot to add "IMHO"CIYAM and others have only pointed out like 500 billion times here about 10 word brain wallets.
Funny how much politer this community suddenly gets when someone who has some clout rolls through.
is NXT a scam plan, like Labcoin?
...
Lastly, these unique suffixes, even if they may be fake, are in *human readable* format.
... which one is easier to tell is a scam: 123123312333 vs 123123123333 or Microsoft123 vs Microsoft? In the first case, someone might not even realize that something is wrong, and think that they have "checked the source" sufficiently and trust it. In the second case, it is 100% clear that there are two Microsofts. The user will then do his DD and figure out Microsoft123 is the real deal, and rename it to Microsoft on his trust list and ignore all others.
+100 Lastly, these unique suffixes, even if they may be fake, are in *human readable* format.
... which one is easier to tell is a scam: 123123312333 vs 123123123333 or Microsoft123 vs Microsoft? In the first case, someone might not even realize that something is wrong, and think that they have "checked the source" sufficiently and trust it. In the second case, it is 100% clear that there are two Microsofts. The user will then do his DD and figure out Microsoft123 is the real deal, and rename it to Microsoft on his trust list and ignore all others.
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