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I can't understand two things about NXT:
1) Why there is still discussion about checksums? There is nothing to discuss here. This feature is a must. Once it's mentioned, it should be implemented at once if not sooner. Without this basic feature NXT won't be taken seriously.
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
Besides that, some people say - "the code is ugly". I'd say: it was expected to be so. BCNext is an inventor, not a software engineer. Now good sowtware engineers are coming, and the code will surely be improved.
1) Why there is still discussion about checksums? There is nothing to discuss here. This feature is a must. Once it's mentioned, it should be implemented at once if not sooner. Without this basic feature NXT won't be taken seriously.
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
Besides that, some people say - "the code is ugly". I'd say: it was expected to be so. BCNext is an inventor, not a software engineer. Now good sowtware engineers are coming, and the code will surely be improved.
Agree, checksum are not even debatable if you want NXT to be reliable
I'd like to ask what people's opinions are on the subject of illegal content in the nxt blockchain.
How could you prevent this from happening?
In my view, that's the correct question. I'm not smart enough to answer it, though; at least not with answers that maintain nxt's core decentralisation philosophy. I'm hoping others on this forum have some ideas.
1) Why there is still discussion about checksums? There is nothing to discuss here. This feature is a must. Once it's mentioned, it should be implemented at once if not sooner. Without this basic feature NXT won't be taken seriously.
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
Exactly.
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
The best way is to host such a forum on Nxt network.
Agree....would also protect forum from being DDOS
Agree ... but till than we have to survive.
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also afer NxT is able to host a forum we need normal web platforms.
currently NxT has 8000 accounts and every user has min. 3-4 accounts.
that meens we have 4000 user maximum.
this is nothing, nobody knows about NxT at this moment.
so we still need to provide all support in the normal web, also if there is an NxT internal forum.
As soon as IM function of NXT 'll be ready, there 'll be possible millions of users, which is quite enough for truly anonymous communication stack building.
I can't understand two things about NXT:
1) Why there is still discussion about checksums? There is nothing to discuss here. This feature is a must. Once it's mentioned, it should be implemented at once if not sooner. Without this basic feature NXT won't be taken seriously.
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
Besides that, some people say - "the code is ugly". I'd say: it was expected to be so. BCNext is an inventor, not a software engineer. Now good sowtware engineers are coming, and the code will surely be improved.
1) Why there is still discussion about checksums? There is nothing to discuss here. This feature is a must. Once it's mentioned, it should be implemented at once if not sooner. Without this basic feature NXT won't be taken seriously.
2) Divisibility. It's easy to implement and it's absolutely necessary. Don't we think Nxt market cap will ever reach 1 billion USD? What would the minimum trnsaction fee be in that case? Look at this from another perspective: there are at least 6 billion people on the planet, and there are less than 1 billion NXT. Did I miss something? May be it is alredy scheduled for implementation?
Besides that, some people say - "the code is ugly". I'd say: it was expected to be so. BCNext is an inventor, not a software engineer. Now good sowtware engineers are coming, and the code will surely be improved.
I'd like to ask what people's opinions are on the subject of illegal content in the nxt blockchain.
To clarify, I am not talking here about an AACS encryption key, a Windows licence key, or a magnet link to the latest episode of Game of Thrones; but rather child pornography.
To clarify, I am not talking here about an AACS encryption key, a Windows licence key, or a magnet link to the latest episode of Game of Thrones; but rather child pornography.
Forced encryption with key distribution for fee (to prevent broadcast)?
I'd like to ask what people's opinions are on the subject of illegal content in the nxt blockchain.
How could you prevent this from happening?
Agree ... but till than we have to survive.
Guys, why don't you change that terrible design on https://forums.nxtcrypto.org?
My eyes hurt, I am afraid I will get a headache if I look at it for too long.
Black background is rarely used on major public sites outside niches, like gaming.
I second this. Feels like the geocities days.
I'd like to ask what people's opinions are on the subject of illegal content in the nxt blockchain.
With the alias system it's possible for someone to put a small amount of arbitrary user-generated data into the blockchain, at low cost (but not zero cost, except if you engineer yourself to be the forging node). This is currently limited to 1000 characters. There is some restriction on what characters can go in an alias so let's assume each alias can store 700 bytes of data.
With the right scheme, an image file could be encoded into a number of aliases. For instance, using the key 'image0001' it could be done using these aliases:
image0001index: index of aliases image0001001 to image0001150 (or just something that describes the file as being in 150 aliases)
image0001001: uuencoded representation of bytes 0-699 of the file
image0001002: uuencoded representation of bytes 700-1399 of the file
...
image0001150: uuencoded representation of bytes 104300-104999 of the file
Total cost: 151 aliases, or 151 nxt, or 13mBTC, or 10 USD, for a 100KB file. This would be adjusted accordingly once the minimum fee is reduced (to 0.1, 0.01, 0.001 etc) and the price of nxt changes.
Applications to both do the initial encoding into aliases and putting on the blockchain, and reproducing the image file from the initial alias 'image0001index', would be easy to produce, and legal in most jurisdictions including USA and Europe.
If the image encoded was a highly illegal one, this would give problems for nxt and its users. Although users hosting the blockchain would not have knowingly put this content on their hard drives (i.e. it's not premeditated), once they have been made aware that it is there they would have a responsibility to remove it. At the moment there is no mechanism to remove or modify aliases that you don't own (and still have a valid blockchain), so the only option to remove this content from your hard drive would be to stop the nxt server, delete the blockchain, and not start the server again.
Of course, the primary person responsible would be the person who initially uploaded the file, but it is conceivable that i) the nxt for this was purchased in an untraceable manner, and ii) the injection into the network was done via for tor something similar.
What motivation would someone have to do this?
1. To attack the nxt concept
2. To make nxt eventually stronger (by forcing it to have to deal with the issue)
3. For the lulz
4. Genuinely wants to distribute highly illegal content (not highly likely, as this is not an efficient means of doing so)
Other systems such as Bitcoin and Datacoin have similar issues, but they're not our concern here. With nxt's 1000 character limit, the issue falls somewhere between the two. There is talk about hosting forums on the nxt network; I've no idea how this would work but presumably this problem would be worse in such a scenario.
Now, I doubt such content already exists on the blockchain, and it probably won't appear there this month or next. But someday it will.
So, questions to anybody who is hosting a nxt server on their Raspberry Pi, Windows PC, or cluster of Linux servers in the cloud:
- Are you happy that you would be storing highly illegal content on your hard drive?
- Are you happy that you would be distributing this content?
- Are you happy to go to prison for this?
And questions for anybody who has a stake in nxt:
- Do you think we should be doing something to address this issue?
- If we do nothing, and such content were to appear in the blockchain, do you think nxt would survive?
To clarify, I am not talking here about an AACS encryption key, a Windows licence key, or a magnet link to the latest episode of Game of Thrones; but rather child pornography.
With the alias system it's possible for someone to put a small amount of arbitrary user-generated data into the blockchain, at low cost (but not zero cost, except if you engineer yourself to be the forging node). This is currently limited to 1000 characters. There is some restriction on what characters can go in an alias so let's assume each alias can store 700 bytes of data.
With the right scheme, an image file could be encoded into a number of aliases. For instance, using the key 'image0001' it could be done using these aliases:
image0001index: index of aliases image0001001 to image0001150 (or just something that describes the file as being in 150 aliases)
image0001001: uuencoded representation of bytes 0-699 of the file
image0001002: uuencoded representation of bytes 700-1399 of the file
...
image0001150: uuencoded representation of bytes 104300-104999 of the file
Total cost: 151 aliases, or 151 nxt, or 13mBTC, or 10 USD, for a 100KB file. This would be adjusted accordingly once the minimum fee is reduced (to 0.1, 0.01, 0.001 etc) and the price of nxt changes.
Applications to both do the initial encoding into aliases and putting on the blockchain, and reproducing the image file from the initial alias 'image0001index', would be easy to produce, and legal in most jurisdictions including USA and Europe.
If the image encoded was a highly illegal one, this would give problems for nxt and its users. Although users hosting the blockchain would not have knowingly put this content on their hard drives (i.e. it's not premeditated), once they have been made aware that it is there they would have a responsibility to remove it. At the moment there is no mechanism to remove or modify aliases that you don't own (and still have a valid blockchain), so the only option to remove this content from your hard drive would be to stop the nxt server, delete the blockchain, and not start the server again.
Of course, the primary person responsible would be the person who initially uploaded the file, but it is conceivable that i) the nxt for this was purchased in an untraceable manner, and ii) the injection into the network was done via for tor something similar.
What motivation would someone have to do this?
1. To attack the nxt concept
2. To make nxt eventually stronger (by forcing it to have to deal with the issue)
3. For the lulz
4. Genuinely wants to distribute highly illegal content (not highly likely, as this is not an efficient means of doing so)
Other systems such as Bitcoin and Datacoin have similar issues, but they're not our concern here. With nxt's 1000 character limit, the issue falls somewhere between the two. There is talk about hosting forums on the nxt network; I've no idea how this would work but presumably this problem would be worse in such a scenario.
Now, I doubt such content already exists on the blockchain, and it probably won't appear there this month or next. But someday it will.
So, questions to anybody who is hosting a nxt server on their Raspberry Pi, Windows PC, or cluster of Linux servers in the cloud:
- Are you happy that you would be storing highly illegal content on your hard drive?
- Are you happy that you would be distributing this content?
- Are you happy to go to prison for this?
And questions for anybody who has a stake in nxt:
- Do you think we should be doing something to address this issue?
- If we do nothing, and such content were to appear in the blockchain, do you think nxt would survive?
To clarify, I am not talking here about an AACS encryption key, a Windows licence key, or a magnet link to the latest episode of Game of Thrones; but rather child pornography.
We hebben een Nederlandstalige moderator nodig voor https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/
indien geïnteresseerden PM mij
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Ik ben beschikbaar.
Heb jarenlang admin-ervaring op een groot forum.
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
The best way is to host such a forum on Nxt network.
Agree....would also protect forum from being DDOS
Agree ... but till than we have to survive.
Pin
also afer NxT is able to host a forum we need normal web platforms.
currently NxT has 8000 accounts and every user has min. 3-4 accounts.
that meens we have 4000 user maximum.
this is nothing, nobody knows about NxT at this moment.
so we still need to provide all support in the normal web, also if there is an NxT internal forum.
Agree ... but till than we have to survive.
Guys, why don't you change that terrible design on https://forums.nxtcrypto.org?
My eyes hurt, I am afraid I will get a headache if I look at it for too long.
Black background is rarely used on major public sites outside niches, like gaming.
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
The best way is to host such a forum on Nxt network.
Agree....would also protect forum from being DDOS
Agree ... but till than we have to survive.
Pin
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
The best way is to host such a forum on Nxt network.
Agree....would also protect forum from being DDOS
sorry landa, I disagree you here. You turn it upside down and have the impression you defend dgex actions.
dgex did what it did and is harmfull for NXT. We forgive but we don't forget.
If you agree with his actions so be it. But I thought you wanted the best for NXT.
same with Uniqueorn first he was kicked by graviton on the forum, next he was a global moderator.
I dont understand what you still see as advantage on dgex and that forum.
Pin
edit correction: it is not as much the forum that bothers me it is the ties with the exchange.
I am in NO WAY condoning Dgex actions yesterday....LETS MAKE THAT CLEAR.
Nxtchg....was also attacked during that period.
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
The best way is to host such a forum on Nxt network.
Don't forget... this discussion was in the middle of the dgex drama and most people were NOT thinking clearly.
It felt to me that the Dgex situation was being used/manipulated to further Ripples aims and not HELP Nxt. The benefits to Nxt were short term, shortsighted and potentially harmful.
Which really turned me off from the idea.
sorry landa, I disagree you here. You turn it upside down and have the impression you defend dgex actions.
dgex did what it did and is harmfull for NXT. We forgive but we don't forget.
If you agree with his actions so be it. But I thought you wanted the best for NXT.
same with Uniqueorn first he was kicked by graviton on the forum, next he was a global moderator.
I dont understand what you still see as advantage on dgex and that forum.
Pin
It is indeed best if a forum were used that has no ties with any of the exchanges so that it can act in good faith at all times.
Don't forget... this discussion was in the middle of the dgex drama and most people were NOT thinking clearly.
It felt to me that the Dgex situation was being used/manipulated to further Ripples aims and not HELP Nxt. The benefits to Nxt were short term, shortsighted and potentially harmful.
Which really turned me off from the idea.
sorry landa, I disagree you here. You turn it upside down and have the impression you defend dgex actions.
dgex did what it did and is harmfull for NXT. We forgive but we don't forget.
If you agree with his actions so be it. But I thought you wanted the best for NXT.
same with Uniqueorn first he was kicked by graviton on the forum, next he was a global moderator.
I dont understand what you still see as advantage on dgex and that forum.
Pin
edit correction: it is not as much the forum that bothers me it is the ties with the exchange.
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