NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 1890.

gbeirn

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Quote from: PaulyC on January 03, 2014, 07:31:10 AM

Quote from: bidji29 on January 03, 2014, 07:15:55 AM

Quote from: jl777 on January 03, 2014, 06:57:42 AM

I did my two week audition, I guess I failed.

James

You weren't acknowledge because we are in the biggest thread of this subforum. There is 600+ page. It's hard to spend time on each post. So valuable opinion are diluted.

But now we know a bit more of you, i think people will spend more time reading your post.

It's weird because I was just having a loose conversation via PM with jl777, about how I felt under-thanked by the community, on my discovery of the flawed client floating around..

not reward.. just like "hey thanks man" Actually I don't remember one person saying it. Wink

(not speaking about Gbeirn's awesome donations in anyway from his own personal NXT)

And he's leaving because of being under-valued (sucks to hear that)

Anyways, He clearly is passionate about NXT and I hope his ideas aren't lost.

Hey now!

Quote from: gbeirn on January 02, 2014, 08:05:31 AM

Quote from: PaulyC on January 02, 2014, 12:41:02 AM

Quote from: gbeirn on January 02, 2014, 12:27:52 AM

Quote from: bitcoinrocks on January 02, 2014, 12:26:49 AM

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Is 17480583094667840121 your new account?

That is not my account.

Sorry that was directed to PaulyC.

Hey sorry just saw this.
That's very generous! thanks Gbeirn.
I don't even know when I'll check if it's in there, I'm freaked until the *confirmed client.. hah

~~Yes this account hasn't been compromised and has a strong 40+ random PW, I haven't used it since 4.7e!~~

Edit** Decided as everyone should to start fresh new Acct#
with the windows installer from Pg. 1. Check sum'd and Hash good. thanks to anyone who can contribute.

NXT
14008664550450326382

I did get a pm from another poster who mentioned setting up a bounty for me, so I don't know what the protocol is here, sorry. thanks!

Sent 7808 NXT. Thanks for discovering this before too many others were tricked as well!

utopianfuture

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Internet of Value

Quote from: jl777 on January 03, 2014, 11:24:58 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on January 03, 2014, 11:13:02 AM

Quote from: ferment on January 03, 2014, 11:10:06 AM

Quote from: msin on January 03, 2014, 10:58:36 AM

Agreed, Dgex is dominating the forum right now with a lot of negativity, perhaps we should move this over to the trading forum and focus on the code release.

+1 vote for keeping this thread as technical and positive as possible.

Please take drama (dgex, partial source release, cries of unfairness, cries of under appreciation, discussions of ripple, etc, etc) to an appropriate area of http://nextcoin.org.

RickyJames's open letters should stay. Those are entertaining. Grin

+2 need to keep this thread contained and informative. Marketing for Ripple gateway should also move to nextcoin or nxtcrypto forum.

NXT price is down 20% due to what dgex did. Do you think I am advocating the peercover gateway to make a few bucks promoting ripple? It is a strategic need for NXT to be able to trade freely. Now on the day of src release, NXT opponents will say the price dropped 20%. This does not bother you? This belongs in some backwater thread?

My interest is in long term NXT valuation. Dropping 20%+ on source code release day kind of makes it hard to spin it in a positive way. If we can establish a market price untainted by giant fees tacked on without warning in any other way, let me know.

I just don't feel nxtchg's server can handle replacing dgex volumes. I also wouldn't want to trade there if any glitch makes my NXT disappear and that's the terms of service.

James

P.S. this whole thing could be an orchestrated attempt to hurt NXT. Does this not bother anybody else?

You should go to different forums to advocate ripple gateway because that where Nxt beginners are. Only veterans follow this thread for updated info. All of your writings will be buried in the thread after 15 minutes.

laowai80

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Quote from: jl777 on January 03, 2014, 11:31:58 AM

Unless dgex raises fees to 30%!

James

Another exchange would open, it's not like it's rocket science to open one, just a full time job, that's all.

bitcoinrocks

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Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please?

Charge fees. But announce them ahead of time. You can still implement a grace period for those who deposited under the old fee schedule. Otherwise you risk ruining your reputation and losing a lot of money long-term. You will be much worse off if you follow through with a short-sighted cash grab.

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

How long have these issues been occuring and did you inform CFB of these bugs? Are these bugs now removed from the system?

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: bahamapascal on January 03, 2014, 11:23:28 AM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 03, 2014, 11:13:22 AM

Quote from: bahamapascal on January 03, 2014, 11:10:31 AM

Hey, something strange happened to me today. After I noticed that I seemed to be on a fork (my block did not correspond to the one on the blockexplorer), I copied my blocks.nxt files to a backup location and then deleted them in my client folder. Then I copied a older blockchain in to the folder (from block 29k) but it did not get any new blocks, even after 10 min of waiting and 20+ active peers. I also tried to download from scratch, but no luck, same thing. Just won't download the block chain Tongue

Any thoughts what I can do to get the block chain to download?
Thanks!

when this happens I blow away the whole nxt folder and unzip the latest ver and then copy over a blockchain backup annd restart. sometimes ill reboot. its the only way to be sure (nuke it from orbit)

Tried all of that, already. Deleted everything, rebooted my PC, copied the files from the download folder in my Nxt folder, tried to download from scratch and tried to download with may backup blocks.nxt....
Nothing helped (usually it dose)

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on January 03, 2014, 11:13:50 AM

What version? 0.4.8+? Catch blocks from block 0.

First I was using 0.4.8 then after this problem accursed I also downloaded version 0.4.9e....both with no luck
And yes, I ryed to catch the blocks from block 0....aswell as from block 29k (my back up )

Though something I do notice now, which is strange, there are no .nxt.back files

Leave it for half an hour, it will catch blocks eventually.

nxtgt

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

Demand that the founders compensate you for faulty execution. Another 800k of NXT burned? On top of the other lost NXT because of a lack of safeguards when sending? That 1 billion is a fixed number, those are never coming back. If they won't, then it's a sunk cost. Bring your fees down and hope that people keep trading on your exchange in the long run.

tracphil

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Quote from: kunibopl on January 03, 2014, 11:24:07 AM

on DGEX you can sell NXT for 0.081 mBTC - on NxtChg you get 0.088 mBTC.
the more exchanges the better. I hope BTC-e will increase the competition soon.

I am using https://nxtchg.com as well. 0 fee promotion for in/out or trade

jl777

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Quote from: laowai80 on January 03, 2014, 11:30:30 AM

Quote from: jl777 on January 03, 2014, 11:24:58 AM

P.S. this whole thing could be an orchestrated attempt to hurt NXT. Does this not bother anybody else?

Not really, short term speculation doesn't provide any value, so it's only short term price decrease. As long as there is a network and more functions added to NXT, it'll be fine.

Unless dgex raises fees to 30%!

James

msin

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

Well, right now your fees are driving the price of Nxt way down.

laowai80

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Quote from: jl777 on January 03, 2014, 11:24:58 AM

P.S. this whole thing could be an orchestrated attempt to hurt NXT. Does this not bother anybody else?

Not really, short term speculation doesn't provide any value, so it's only short term price decrease. As long as there is a network and more functions added to NXT, it'll be fine.

BitcoinForumator

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

This reminds me of the banks. First they do bad business and then they expect their customers to bail them out.

salsacz

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Quote from: lyynx on December 27, 2013, 09:56:28 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on December 27, 2013, 05:31:11 AM

Quote from: S3MKi on December 27, 2013, 05:27:22 AM

Please VOTE for Adding NxT @Cryptsy here
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44434

How many comments/likes is enough for Cryptsy to add a new currency?

I tweeted BigVern and he said he is looking into NXT and will consider after the source is released.

looks like you can tweet him again Wink

Damelon

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

Again, no problem with you wanting to recoup losses.

However, no previous warning is just not done.
When did you see these losses? Where they related to the NXT system?
Why haven't you brought them to the attention of the NXT coders, or if you did, why didn't there come a point where you decided "enough, I can't work this way!"?

At this moment, the loss is all on the back of your users. Again, that is like discovering your safe has a hole and locking people in your shop until they make up for the difference.
In a RL situation, that just isn't possible, due to people not accepting it in a very physical way.

Quote from: jl777

I suggest you give people 3 days to withdraw under old rules if they want to. After that you can charge whatever fees you want, just publish them

James

This. A grace period is normal.

Come-from-Beyond

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Quote from: coolfish on January 03, 2014, 11:22:40 AM

@CFB

Where and when the NXT main function p2p Asset Exchange now?

R u asking about .class files?

jl777

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

I suggest you give people 3 days to withdraw under old rules if they want to. After that you can charge whatever fees you want, just publish them

James

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Quote from: GCInc. on January 03, 2014, 11:24:46 AM

Quote from: BitAddict on January 03, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

That is not right, you can't change fees when you own nearly 90M NxT + X BTC of your customers without giving a timeframe to withdrawal with the old rules.

Would you kindly suggest how to deal with the missing 800k NXT please? Consider the rate of NXT shoots up significantly, not that I would have 70 BTC extra in my pockets to cover it right now.

DGEX offered people free trading of NXT for 5 weeks.

yeah but a btc withdrawal fee of 1.4% made up for the trading fees. Overall from my trading, you guys probably got like 1btc worth of fees just from me, not to mention all the other users. Its okay that you guys want to raise fees, but doing it overnight and not giving a warning ahead of time is what makes your customers upset. Find a way to have instant deposits and withdrawals if you want to take that big of a fee. Noone wants to pay so much for fees and have to wait a day or half a day to get their withdrawals or deposits.

With increased revenue, you should also increase fundamentals on your site, you don't even have 2FA available for users, and your digit limits are like 8 digits or something. People always have little change left over because they can't withdraw the full amount. Its things like this..

NxtChg

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on January 03, 2014, 10:50:22 AM

what are the fees associated there? I cant seem to find any info page on the main site there, just a create account or login links

For now there are absolutely no fees.

But this will probably change when the exchange becomes more popular. In case the fees are introduced, they will be announced beforehand and also anyone who deposited while there were no fees will be able to withdraw with no fees. I will not hold anyone's money hostage.

BitAddict

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Mivexil

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Well, my NXT software seems to have stopped working - turns up NullPointerException on start and shows zero balance. Anybody knows what to do?

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