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sr. member
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Internet of Value
I start the client from the scratch. And here is where I am stuck.

23642      4986291754133470191      12/24/2013 5:47:59 AM   
200      258'300 + 218      28'488 B   
1      184310077466507214      470 %

No block get created in the last 15 minutes.
legendary
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Newbie
So CfB, do you confirm that now NOT-hallmarked vps are useless (and could be negative) ?

No. Even non-marked vps helps a lot.
legendary
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Newbie
Is there Nxt support I can consult on this matter?

Yes. Give us more info plz.
full member
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So CfB, do you confirm that now NOT-hallmarked vps are useless (and could be negative) ?
legendary
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Newbie
So we are back to the current shitty state of things?! Sad
In my opinion is not good what are you proposing.

In this way you will replicate the current rotten
fraction reserve fiat system into NXT.

Except from the "inflation" what would be
the difference then between NXT
and the current financial system we have.?


Don't forget that today who has money has power
and can impose laws on others
an limit individual freedom.

Will NXT take the same path? Sad


I don't propose. I just say obvious things. Sorry if u overlooked them. The same problem exists in Bitcoin world. 51% of miners may refuse to process ur transactions effectively "destroying" them.
sr. member
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Internet of Value

Ok... so we can direct aliases to websites, crypto clients, etc., can someone expand on the characteristics of NXT assets?

If you are familiar with Ripple, this will sound very similar.

An asset is an IOU that represents a certain item (BTC, usd, gold oz).  There are gateways that will issue these assets on the Nxt network.  Only the register of the asset name "BTC" will be able to issue an IOU with the name "BTC".  Other gateways can still issue bitcoin, but they have to use a different name that is still available (ex. BTC2, BTCTWO).  These assets can be bought or sold on the Nxt network for Nxt or other IOUs.  You can redeem your IOUs by sending them back to the issuer.  The issuer will then send you the physical or digital asset.

Who and what mechanism can enforce that the issuers would keep his promises to redeem his IOU/ assets ?

No one

Did you ever sell your Bitcoin/ Nxt to a stranger asking to pay you by PayPal ? In the last couple of days, quite a number of people offered me a good dollar price for Nxt. They could only pay by Paypal since they can get Bitcoin easily. I refused most of them as you all know the risk that Paypal can reverse the transaction at will up to 30 days.

I think that's sensible decision since I cannot trust these strangers to negate his words and ask Paypal to reverse the transaction. In this case a lack of trust has destroy a market transaction opportunity.
It would also apply in the future Nxt asset exchange, the lack of trust would destroy all market transaction. So to make the market works, we have to have the trust. Trust in the buyers is easier since Nxt transaction is non-reversible. But trust in the asset issuers need to be established. And one way to do it is to create a mechanism in which who breaks the trust will be punished. When an IOU is issued, that is a promise/ a social contract is being written. An issuer who breaks his social contract should have consequences. The loss of reputation is one consequence. There can be more mechanism designed by the community.

Here I want to point out the need to force the asset issuer to announce a clear social contract attached to his asset before the issuance. That social contract should be announced in public such as in a dedicated sub-forum of Nxt community. The social contract should clearly point out why such asset having a value and What are the responsibilities of the issuers to the assets. We can compile and publish a common form that all asset issuers are advised to follow. There should be a period of Q&A which happens after the announcement of asset issuance and before the actual listing of the asset.

This also implicates that  the existence of the asset exchange associates with the existence of a public forum in which all the assets being announced, documented at least in the first phase of asset issuance.  

We need to test on all these issues before the actual launch of the exchange and all the name tag squatting.
legendary
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Does that mean, that an account with many coins can ruin me (I lose all my coins) just because he wants to see me suffer Huh

No. 51% of all coins required for that. This is good old democracy.

or 501,000,000 Nxt....I love it!....that will keep em in line
hero member
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The Last NXT Founder
Ok, I need help.

I followed the instructions from the previous thread:
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So, if you want to get coins do the following:
1.  Choose a secret phrase
2.  Calculate SHA256 hash of this phrase (an online calculator can be used)
3.  Calculate SHA256 hash of the hash you got on the previous step
4.  Send any amount to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a, don’t forget to attach a message with the hash you got on the 3rd step. (The amount is capped at 1 BTC!)

So I've sent small amount of BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a with message based on step 3. Now that I unlocked my account I don't see any Nxt on it.

Following the instructions, my transaction message was hash of hash of my secret phrase. Why don't I get my NxtCoins yet? Is there any reason to worry?

the fundraiser ended a month ago, dont send any more coins to that address!

the only way to get nxt now is to find someone selling them
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Ok, I need help.

I followed the instructions from the previous thread:
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So, if you want to get coins do the following:
1.  Choose a secret phrase
2.  Calculate SHA256 hash of this phrase (an online calculator can be used)
3.  Calculate SHA256 hash of the hash you got on the previous step
4.  Send any amount to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a, don’t forget to attach a message with the hash you got on the 3rd step. (The amount is capped at 1 BTC!)

So I've sent small amount of BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a with message based on step 3. Now that I unlocked my account I don't see any Nxt on it.

Following the instructions, my transaction message was hash of hash of my secret phrase. Why don't I get my NxtCoins yet? Is there any reason to worry?

Is there Nxt support I can consult on this matter?


hero member
Activity: 687
Merit: 500
Does that mean, that an account with many coins can ruin me (I lose all my coins) just because he wants to see me suffer Huh

No. 51% of all coins required for that. This is good old democracy.

No, Come-from-Beyond, there are limits in a democracy (thats why there is a constitution).
I don't think it's really a big problem for a small account but I still don't like it.
hero member
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Merit: 535
WOT?
how will that be counted ? who has more coins has more voting power ?

Yes

So we are back to the current shitty state of things?! Sad
In my opinion is not good what are you proposing.

In this way you will replicate the current rotten
fraction reserve fiat system into NXT.

Except from the "inflation" what would be
the difference then between NXT
and the current financial system we have.?


Don't forget that today who has money has power
and can impose laws on others
an limit individual freedom.

Will NXT take the same path? Sad
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Does that mean, that an account with many coins can ruin me (I lose all my coins) just because he wants to see me suffer Huh

No. 51% of all coins required for that. This is good old democracy.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Ok, I need help.

I followed the instructions from the previous thread:
Quote
So, if you want to get coins do the following:
1.  Choose a secret phrase
2.  Calculate SHA256 hash of this phrase (an online calculator can be used)
3.  Calculate SHA256 hash of the hash you got on the previous step
4.  Send any amount to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a, don’t forget to attach a message with the hash you got on the 3rd step. (The amount is capped at 1 BTC!)

So I've sent small amount of BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a with message based on step 3. Now that I unlocked my account I don't see any Nxt on it.

Following the instructions, my transaction message was hash of hash of my secret phrase. Why don't I get my NxtCoins yet? Is there any reason to worry?
hero member
Activity: 687
Merit: 500
But what about the attack vector using hallmarked nodes that behave zombie like?
I still consider - based on 2Kool4Skewl's analysis - the hallmark system more a problem than a solution at the moment...

This is not a big problem imo. Stakeholders may use Voting System to penalize account owner. Anything from slowing attacker's transactions to complete destruction of all his coins.

Does that mean, that an account with many coins can ruin me (I lose all my coins) just because he wants to see me suffer Huh
hero member
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Nxt-kit developer
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legendary
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sr. member
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S P 8 D E
But what about the attack vector using hallmarked nodes that behave zombie like?
I still consider - based on 2Kool4Skewl's analysis - the hallmark system more a problem than a solution at the moment...

This is not a big problem imo. Stakeholders may use Voting System to penalize account owner. Anything from slowing attacker's transactions to complete destruction of all his coins.

WOT?
how will that be counted ? who has more coins has more voting power ?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
S P 8 D E
But what about the attack vector using hallmarked nodes that behave zombie like?
I still consider - based on 2Kool4Skewl's analysis - the hallmark system more a problem than a solution at the moment...

This is not a big problem imo. Stakeholders may use Voting System to penalize account owner. Anything from slowing attacker's transactions to complete destruction of all his coins.

WOT?
legendary
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Merit: 1010
Newbie
Watch all the haters go nuts on this one!!!   Wink

The haters should recall all people who were punished for their crimes against the society. There is no difference.
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