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just one and my last post about this stakeholder topic.
couple of days ago i was chatting with a major stakeholder about nxt
and he asked me what we need to go bigger, stuff like this, and at the end
i asked him what he intend todo to move nxt further, his answer was impressive.
nothing, because he can't code nor write articles etc. so he decided
just to wait. ok, not optimal but what really pisses me off, the first
time during my nxt-adventure-fun was his last statement, that he will
use all these tools for sure because someone built them anyway.
(of course he knew i am developing a new client for nxt but i asked
for nothing, just to make this clear)

therefore it's great to see that many of them now supporting nxt.

ok, x-mas time now... Grin

well, he might end up losing all of his stake, if NXT dies, nobody would be able to send any coins if network is kaputt, game over. tell him to wait longer, he just might see that happen )
legendary
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When I installed 0.4.2 I could see only 0.4.2 nodes. Why?  I think at that time there was a lot of 0.4.0 nodes (including my bootstrap VPS).

So it seems every version now mines own fork of blockchain. If so, in the first place we all need to install the same version (preferably 0.4.0).

Zombie nodes r quite dumb. They return ur version as their. U can send them "I'm zombie" and then get "I'm zombie" in response.
- how can I configure my server in order to communicate only with Hallmarked nodes (> 100 000 weight) ?  

I do not want to see zombies in my Active peer list (no to say to communicate with them).

And I think that "They return ur version as their" its an Nxt servlet work, and you say, that attack is Jetty targeted, not Nxt servlet targeted. So how it happes that we see them, zombies, in Active peer, anyway ?
legendary
Activity: 1890
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
So shouldn't the zombie nodes be able to be weeded out by PoS (i.e. each node you connect to sign something which proves how much NXT they control) or this what the Hallmark feature is going to achieve?
hero member
Activity: 597
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just one and my last post about this stakeholder topic.
couple of days ago i was chatting with a major stakeholder about nxt
and he asked me what we need to go bigger, stuff like this, and at the end
i asked him what he intend todo to move nxt further, his answer was impressive.
nothing, because he can't code nor write articles etc. so he decided
just to wait. ok, not optimal but what really pisses me off, the first
time during my nxt-adventure-fun was his last statement, that he will
use all these tools for sure because someone built them anyway.
(of course he knew i am developing a new client for nxt but i asked
for nothing, just to make this clear)

therefore it's great to see that many of them now supporting nxt.

ok, x-mas time now... Grin
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 500
www.coinschedule.com
But in BTC, no one owns the remaining 10 million coins that haven't been mined yet, whereas in NXT, a small groups owns all the coins that will exist. This is why, NXT is closer to Ripple than it is to BTC.

Nxt fast forwarded 100 years of Bitcoin history. Will u compare Bitcoin to Ripple in 100 years when all bitcoins mined?

Probably not, because Ripple will be long dead by then (if it's not already).
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
U could try.

Am playing with this now - btw - are the "scum" nodes okay or zombies (they keep coming back after I trash them)?


They ok.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
But in BTC, no one owns the remaining 10 million coins that haven't been mined yet, whereas in NXT, a small groups owns all the coins that will exist. This is why, NXT is closer to Ripple than it is to BTC.

Nxt fast forwarded 100 years of Bitcoin history. Will u compare Bitcoin to Ripple in 100 years when all bitcoins mined?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
U could try.

Am playing with this now - btw - are the "scum" nodes okay or zombies (they keep coming back after I trash them)?
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 500
www.coinschedule.com

People were extremely unhappy with the fact that the organization behind Ripple owned all coins and therefore they had an instant market cap of (all coins) x (price). And it's the same with NXT. A small group of people control all existing coins, all the coins that will ever exist. While everyone else has to buy NXT or beg for some NXTin some giveaway or bounty.

Not only that, but, the more coins you have, the more you make in forging... to the rich will get richer.

Try mining Bitcoins. Or gold. Then tell me how much you'd have to invest to mine anything. And unlike Bitcoin in nxt no one has tech advantage (bleeding edge hardware) to mine.

Alternative to 'rich get richer' is communism. And guess what? Rich get richer there too.

Okay, so in both BTC and NXT, the more money you have, the more money you make.

But in BTC, no one owns the remaining 10 million coins that haven't been mined yet, whereas in NXT, a small groups owns all the coins that will exist. This is why, NXT is closer to Ripple than it is to BTC.
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NXT is the future

version 0.4.0
   
22877      6635869272840226493      23-12-2013 12:49:00   
5      15'457 + 5      640 B   
1      3293432955273510146      725 %
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
No. Legit nodes run the same version as u.

I mean temporarily (whilst we are under attack by zombies and the software doesn't help).

Just looking for a solution other than downloading blockchains (which is *wrong* in every way).


U could try.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
No. Legit nodes run the same version as u.

I mean temporarily (whilst we are under attack by zombies and the software doesn't help).

Just looking for a solution other than downloading blockchains (which is *wrong* in every way).
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500
0.4.0 is working smooth atm.

i just uploaded this version including all files. ~19mb.

http://87.230.14.1/download/nxt_0.4.0_complete.zip

you have to adjust web.xml
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
Zombie nodes r quite dumb. They return ur version as their. U can send them "I'm zombie" and then get "I'm zombie" in response.

So maybe a good idea to actually *remove* nodes that are of the same version as your own manually?


No. Legit nodes run the same version as u.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Zombie nodes r quite dumb. They return ur version as their. U can send them "I'm zombie" and then get "I'm zombie" in response.

So maybe a good idea to actually *remove* nodes that are of the same version as your own manually?
hero member
Activity: 597
Merit: 500
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
When I installed 0.4.2 I could see only 0.4.2 nodes. Why?  I think at that time there was a lot of 0.4.0 nodes (including my bootstrap VPS).

My version reports itself as 0.4.2 and I can see 0.4.0 nodes along with 0.4.1e, 0.4.2 and 0.4.3e nodes.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
When I installed 0.4.2 I could see only 0.4.2 nodes. Why?  I think at that time there was a lot of 0.4.0 nodes (including my bootstrap VPS).

So it seems every version now mines own fork of blockchain. If so, in the first place we all need to install the same version (preferably 0.4.0).

Zombie nodes r quite dumb. They return ur version as their. U can send them "I'm zombie" and then get "I'm zombie" in response.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1038
When I installed 0.4.2 I could see only 0.4.2 nodes. Why?  I think at that time there was a lot of 0.4.0 nodes (including my bootstrap VPS).

So it seems every version now mines own fork of blockchain. If so, in the first place we all need to install the same version (preferably 0.4.0).
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/
Volume = 952 BTC. Is it total from the very beginning?
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