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Topic: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information - page 528. (Read 2761624 times)

hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
What for?

Not everyone can process 1000 tps.

Before people shout "Nxt will never come to 1000 transactions per second in the next months/years", don't forget that Nxt is more than a currency. What people will do with it... we don't know yet.
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 500
www.coinschedule.com
What for?

Not everyone can process 1000 tps.

So the node that has the account that received forging power process more TX? Hmm... I hadn't though about this! This means that whoever is receiving forging power will spend more money with hardware that can handle all the TX. How do we know if this will ROI?
hero member
Activity: 750
Merit: 500
www.coinschedule.com
More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.

As long as the big account holders dont pool their forging, it seems LIKE A SERIOUS RISK

However, if we had nodecoin, that would let the small accounts gain daily rewards that they can see. I think that is what most people want to see. We can then just put in bids in AE for nodecoin so that it is actually worth NXT

Instead of pooled forging, can you port over multisig? That is much more important than pooled forging, since there are alternate solutions for that. Multisig is pretty fundamental.

James

FIFY


For the stakeholders pooliing their NXT: The API for forging rights should have this hardcoded. No account can have more than, say 10% of total forging power associated to it.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
What for?

Not everyone can process 1000 tps.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
AKA jefdiesel
More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.

As long as the big account holders dont pool their forging, it seems LIKE A SERIOUS RISK

However, if we had nodecoin, that would let the small accounts gain daily rewards that they can see. I think that is what most people want to see. We can then just put in bids in AE for nodecoin so that it is actually worth NXT

Instead of pooled forging, can you port over multisig? That is much more important than pooled forging, since there are alternate solutions for that. Multisig is pretty fundamental.

James

FIFY
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.


Instead of leasing forge power or Pooled Forging , you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...).

TEXT



Why do you always overwhelm the community with so much text?

And why do you post my text Grin

I don't get your idea, or I get it. I don't know.

Instead of leasing forge power, you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...). Could this be done with AT and would that make sense?

sorry  Wink, because in my humble opinion all the explanation resolves this

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/10829/impossible-trinity-security-environment-protection-decentralization/

.....

Here I propose a ternary paradox, that the natures of decentralization, security and environment protection constitute an impossible trinity. (Graph 2) A crypto-currency which is both environmentally-friendly and secured would definitely need to be centralized, like PPcoin, Nextcoin and Ripple. These coins either contain aspects of centralized structure, or their decentralized structure is not sustainable, with a Paypal-like centralized verification mechanism. A crypto-currency which is both environmentally-friendly and decentralized would be unsecured, like P2P currencies of ‘one-IP-address-one-vote,’ which are already excluded by Satoshi. He believed that if the majority were based on ‘one-IP-address-one-vote,’ it could be subverted by anyone able to allocate many IPs.5 If one designs a secured decentralized currency, it must come with the cost of consuming energy and calculation power. PoW is the first solution to construct a verification system in the form of decentralization, and will probably be the only one.


with share fee pools this not occurs.

Extremely decentralized network (in the exemple 30.000 Nodes but in reality will be many more) and therefore very secure network
Small accounts motivated to participate in forging (In the exemple 100 Nxt account is forging every day not every 10 year)
rich and poor have the same chance to forge because everybody forge everyday!!!!
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5525645



Don't forget to vote on what should btc38 add Smiley
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500

I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.

Worst marketing idea ever Grin

Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea?
That could be the interface for the stanradr user.
And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need.

It seems I didn't understand chuckone. I thought he wanted to keep the old one...

Or maybe I misunderstood him. Anyway, the old ui must go, and we already have a new one Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 897
Merit: 284
+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?

Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it?

Didn't test it.

It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte.

Is this only Win?

Yes.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000

I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.

Worst marketing idea ever Grin

Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea?
That could be the interface for the stanradr user.
And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need.

It seems I didn't understand chuckone. I thought he wanted to keep the old one...
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?

Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it?

Didn't test it.

It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte.

Is this only Win?

Yes. Please check it out:

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1902.0.html
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 501
We'll need pooled forging in the future when switch to 1000 tps mode.

What for?
Seems like I understand idea of PF wrong...
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Hey guys! I'm allwelder's friend.
If you want the price of NXT pumping up,
please go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-lockedill-start-a-new-post-soon-501963 to vote NXT!!!
Www.btc38.com is the biggest Altcoins exchange in China.
It will be a great news to NXT if the site launch NXT!!!

Please!!!


Vote!

Expect the question; How are we going to implement NXT at BTC38?

Or have we learned from the past and made an instruction?

Whoever is our Chinese rep for NXT(I believe we have one right?) should work with opticalc or someone along those lines to help btc38 implement it if it comes to that.

Alright. We shouldn't let this be the second Mintpal disaster.

I think we will win this vote, so we have to prepare ourselves.

BTC38 is very important.

optical and wesleyh told earlier that they would be able to help.
They can contact us on IRC too.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?

Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it?

Didn't test it.

It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte.

Is this only Win?
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.


Instead of leasing forge power or Pooled Forging , you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...).




TEXT



Why do you always overwhelm the community with so much text?

And why do you post my text Grin

I don't get your idea, or I get it. I don't know.

Instead of leasing forge power, you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...). Could this be done with AT and would that make sense?
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Hey guys! I'm allwelder's friend.
If you want the price of NXT pumping up,
please go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-lockedill-start-a-new-post-soon-501963 to vote NXT!!!
Www.btc38.com is the biggest Altcoins exchange in China.
It will be a great news to NXT if the site launch NXT!!!

Please!!!


Vote!

Expect the question; How are we going to implement NXT at BTC38?

Or have we learned from the past and made an instruction?

Whoever is our Chinese rep for NXT(I believe we have one right?) should work with opticalc or someone along those lines to help btc38 implement it if it comes to that.

Alright. We shouldn't let this be the second Mintpal disaster.

I think we will win this vote, so we have to prepare ourselves.

BTC38 is very important.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500

I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.

Worst marketing idea ever Grin

Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea?
That could be the interface for the stanradr user.
And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
Remember those videos where a woman is choosing a man out of a bunch and kicking one after another by yelling "next!" (i'm pretty sure YouTube should have some). And then she finds the right one.

Well video making wizards, what if you made an ad for NXT of this nature? A spinoff where someone is choosing between crypto's and the chooser (woman or man) keeps yeeling "next" and nothing is good enough, while all along all this person wanted was NXT.


NXT (next) is such a great versatile word it would be a shame not to use it more in advertising.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?

Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it?

Didn't test it.

It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte.
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