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legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
Nxtopia -- MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network
current bounty: 6000 NXT
5000 - jl777
1000 - swartzfeger (Transaction id: 12550164158045962834)
This is an opportunity to support an online game that leverages many of Nxt's advanced features. Donations can be sent to 13776816462073143763; please include tx id so I can include it when updating this post and making it easier for James to keep track of incoming transactions.
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Initial concepts can be read here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AddOidhyg7PwdCnejywEf7Gk7p0Yo1ZMBIf6ES5QVwc/

There are challenges to be solved, but we will find solutions. Ideas, opinions, naysaying and cheerleading are welcomed and encouraged.
For now, ideas can be voiced here: http://www.reddit.com/r/nxtopia/
only 6000 ?
For now, yes. Wanna donate? Cheesy
Others have mentioned wanting to donate, but I'll wait to add their names when I receive official confirmation.

Very interesting. I am all for it. Please create a separate thread for discussion.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 100
Nxtopia -- MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network

current bounty: 6000 NXT

5000 - jl777
1000 - swartzfeger (Transaction id: 12550164158045962834)

This is an opportunity to support an online game that leverages many of Nxt's advanced features. Donations can be sent to 13776816462073143763; please include tx id so I can include it when updating this post and making it easier for James to keep track of incoming transactions.

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Initial concepts can be read here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AddOidhyg7PwdCnejywEf7Gk7p0Yo1ZMBIf6ES5QVwc/


There are challenges to be solved, but we will find solutions. Ideas, opinions, naysaying and cheerleading are welcomed and encouraged.

For now, ideas can be voiced here: http://www.reddit.com/r/nxtopia/

only 6000 ?

For now, yes. Wanna donate? Cheesy

Others have mentioned wanting to donate, but I'll wait to add their names when I receive official confirmation.
sr. member
Activity: 311
Merit: 250
Nxtopia -- MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network

current bounty: 6000 NXT

5000 - jl777
1000 - swartzfeger (Transaction id: 12550164158045962834)

This is an opportunity to support an online game that leverages many of Nxt's advanced features. Donations can be sent to 13776816462073143763; please include tx id so I can include it when updating this post and making it easier for James to keep track of incoming transactions.

---

Initial concepts can be read here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AddOidhyg7PwdCnejywEf7Gk7p0Yo1ZMBIf6ES5QVwc/


There are challenges to be solved, but we will find solutions. Ideas, opinions, naysaying and cheerleading are welcomed and encouraged.

For now, ideas can be voiced here: http://www.reddit.com/r/nxtopia/

only 6000 ?
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1018
btw, CfB: there seems to be something wrong with the 'sendMoney' function on the testnet, I have been trying browser, webwallet, and my client, but it seems to not work ...

If it's "Not enough funds" then I'm fixing the bug.


bytes - 0000d99372000a005f7605dfd9ddba1c7843add87f2afc0b9edb1776ad9ae7c9cce18013fa89247 1f428b68fe8b7e56205000000020000000000000000000000d52b7a50290511884add9b96cdf533 bbbffd65d2a748e91e311d618fd51ab30da3252c8edc4391465b3f5f8a4a2572f5514a2611faebf 00c35b9c5d38626fa60
transaction - 18430882994598944577

getTransactionBytes - 18430882994598944577
bytes - 0000d99372000a005f7605dfd9ddba1c7843add87f2afc0b9edb1776ad9ae7c9cce18013fa89247 1f428b68fe8b7e56205000000020000000000000000000000d52b7a50290511884add9b96cdf533 bbbffd65d2a748e91e311d618fd51ab30da3252c8edc4391465b3f5f8a4a2572f5514a2611faebf 00c35b9c5d38626fa60

senderPublicKey - 5f7605dfd9ddba1c7843add87f2afc0b9edb1776ad9ae7c9cce18013fa892471
fee - 2
sender - 1738404304940813414
subtype - 0
referencedTransaction - 0
type - 0
amount - 5
deadline - 10
signature - d52b7a50290511884add9b96cdf533bbbffd65d2a748e91e311d618fd51ab30da3252c8edc43914 65b3f5f8a4a2572f5514a2611faebf00c35b9c5d38626fa60
recipient - 7126304194855053556
timestamp - 7508953
block - 11007944906596820951
confirmations - 11



when I do that for TX
17085258924171003110


I get
errorCode - 5
errorDescription - Unknown transaction

amount was 100nxt from 1738404304940813414 to 7126304194855053556

Is the confirmation time so long ? I remember that the new balances are displayed very quickly on the real nxtNet!?!?!

Also, sending from the browser often does not seem to work.


Nope. I keep sending back and forth small amounts on the testNet between 2 accounts from the browserGui, but the money does not arrive.

When I that from my client, I get a TX and TX_bytes, when when I do 'getTransaction', the reply is

errorCode - 5
errorDescription - Unknown transaction

Also, the new TXs I have been making do not appear in

getAccountTransactionIds

full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 100
Nxtopia -- MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network

current bounty: 9000 NXT

5000 - jl777
1000 - swartzfeger (Transaction id: 12550164158045962834)
3000- chanc3r (Transaction id: 5658009271669858297)

This is an opportunity to support an online game that leverages many of Nxt's advanced features. Donations can be sent to 13776816462073143763; please include tx id so I can include it when updating this post and making it easier for James to keep track of incoming transactions.

---

Initial concepts can be read here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AddOidhyg7PwdCnejywEf7Gk7p0Yo1ZMBIf6ES5QVwc/


There are challenges to be solved, but we will find solutions. Ideas, opinions, naysaying and cheerleading are welcomed and encouraged.

For now, ideas can be voiced here: http://www.reddit.com/r/nxtopia/

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I have registered nxtopia.com, which currently redirects to a wordpress.com placeholder
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 1001
is there a timetable for feature launches such as asset exchange? i read something about april?
a centralised website in the wiki maybe with a feature timetable would be good to check fast
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 250
Collateralized debt obligations != "woooooo!"

Collateralized debt obligations == "BooHoo!"

I forgot my sarcasm tag Cheesy

Despite the fact i used "Grin" in my post about subprime mortgages, we should think about some "wall street type guys"-functions.

Maybe I shouldn’t have brought up Micro Loans and NXT may not want anything to do with them, but in 5 years I might want to help out the lady next door with her new small business by giving her a micro loan to buy a sewing machine, I wondered how the NXT platform could be used to both our advantages. Could NXT be the platform for micro loan contract/implementation/repayment rules etc, but then a different currency,lets call it DOSH or MicroNXT, which is built on NXT and my preferred day-to-day currency and which the sewing machine shop also accepts. So I can pay him but when she comes to pay me back, she still uses Bitcoin, so either she or I exchange that back to my preferred currency - DOSH.  I'm just thinking of future real world applications and how this could play out using NXT features. If she splits with my Dosh, then that’s my bad debt and I adjust the contract accordingly and also write negative feedback in her NXT public profile. That’s the way of the world.

... I might want to help out the lady next door with her new small business by giving her a micro loan to buy a sewing machine, I wondered how the NXT platform could be used to both our advantages.
- just give her dollars (and she would be happy). Nxt can not help here.

Nxt shouldn't be considered a debt obligation, but other assets in the asset exchange are inherently IOUs.  Any IOU issued on the AE should be able to be "loaned".  Trusting someone for an asset is an interest free loan and requires no contract.  Interest free loans are the core part of the social credit system.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Despite the fact i used "Grin" in my post about subprime mortgages, we should think about some "wall street type guys"-functions.
Just because something is not in the NXT core, doesnt mean we cant implement something on top of it. There are no restrictions that all NXT services have to be decentralized. the core must be, but I imagine the vast majority of end use services will have at least some part of it centralized.

If you think about it each and every NXT Asset is centralized, eg. single point of failure at the Asset issuer. So, everyone can build whatever real world analogue they want, using the NXT infrastructure.

That is what I did with nodecoin. It is totally centralized as I have it hardcoded reporting in to one of my servers, but I was able to create very coin-like functionality in one day. That is the power of NXT, with a little imagination, you can pretty much do anything.

If anybody has something they want to see, but you dont know how it could be built on top of NXT, just ask! With AM, NXT is already "Turing complete" so basically anything can be implemented, just need some programming

James

I don't want it to be in the NXT core necessarily. I want a discussion about possible services with AE or AM, api stuff and coins-on-top which could attract financial guys.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1038
... I might want to help out the lady next door with her new small business by giving her a micro loan to buy a sewing machine, I wondered how the NXT platform could be used to both our advantages.
- just give her dollars (and she would be happy). Nxt can not help here.
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
Collateralized debt obligations != "woooooo!"

Collateralized debt obligations == "BooHoo!"

I forgot my sarcasm tag Cheesy

Despite the fact i used "Grin" in my post about subprime mortgages, we should think about some "wall street type guys"-functions.

Maybe I shouldn’t have brought up Micro Loans and NXT may not want anything to do with them, but in 5 years I might want to help out the lady next door with her new small business by giving her a micro loan to buy a sewing machine, I wondered how the NXT platform could be used to both our advantages. Could NXT be the platform for micro loan contract/implementation/repayment rules etc, but then a different currency,lets call it DOSH or MicroNXT, which is built on NXT and my preferred day-to-day currency and which the sewing machine shop also accepts. So I can pay him but when she comes to pay me back, she still uses Bitcoin, so either she or I exchange that back to my preferred currency - DOSH.  I'm just thinking of future real world applications and how this could play out using NXT features. If she splits with my Dosh, then that’s my bad debt and I adjust the contract accordingly and also write negative feedback in her NXT public profile. That’s the way of the world.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
btw, CfB: there seems to be something wrong with the 'sendMoney' function on the testnet, I have been trying browser, webwallet, and my client, but it seems to not work ...

If it's "Not enough funds" then I'm fixing the bug.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Collateralized debt obligations != "woooooo!"

Collateralized debt obligations == "BooHoo!"

I forgot my sarcasm tag Cheesy

Despite the fact i used "Grin" in my post about subprime mortgages, we should think about some "wall street type guys"-functions.
Just because something is not in the NXT core, doesnt mean we cant implement something on top of it. There are no restrictions that all NXT services have to be decentralized. the core must be, but I imagine the vast majority of end use services will have at least some part of it centralized.

If you think about it each and every NXT Asset is centralized, eg. single point of failure at the Asset issuer. So, everyone can build whatever real world analogue they want, using the NXT infrastructure.

That is what I did with nodecoin. It is totally centralized as I have it hardcoded reporting in to one of my servers, but I was able to create very coin-like functionality in one day. That is the power of NXT, with a little imagination, you can pretty much do anything.

If anybody has something they want to see, but you dont know how it could be built on top of NXT, just ask! With AM, NXT is already "Turing complete" so basically anything can be implemented, just need some programming

James
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1018
Come-from-Beyond, how difficult would it be to add a feature to the asset exchange allowing accounts to trust other accounts for a certain asset up to a specific amount?  The system would have to be able to handle shifting debt balances.

Not very hard.

I don't know ... is there any reason why the client should not be able to do this itself?

Better not overload the backend with functionality that is not essential to the core  Huh

btw, CfB: there seems to be something wrong with the 'sendMoney' function on the testnet, I have been trying browser, webwallet, and my client, but it seems to not work ...



hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Collateralized debt obligations != "woooooo!"

Collateralized debt obligations == "BooHoo!"

I forgot my sarcasm tag Cheesy

Despite the fact i used "Grin" in my post about subprime mortgages, we should think about some "wall street type guys"-functions.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Unclaimed coins funds and committees...
...
Three committees will be created:

NXTinfrastructurefund (more hardware related, VPS, clients)
- I think it is no need in NXTinfrastructurefund, because we can not fund hardware in order to keep Nxt network. That would be a centralisation.
BCNext said he expected the community to pay for the servers. There are things like the community gateways that I want to get in place that offer at cost services to the community, eg. non-profit. For security, these will need to be hosted in Amazon secure servers, which are not cheap, but since they will be dealing with bitcoin transactions it is most important.

Also, for achieving 1000TPS, especially at first, the community needs to subsidize.

While this isnt totally decentralized, I am requiring at least 5 community gateways to provide multisig for each other. The lower the cost of the gateway into NXT economy, the bigger the NXT economy will get.

James
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 100
Collateralized debt obligations != "woooooo!"

Collateralized debt obligations == "BooHoo!"

I forgot my sarcasm tag Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Unclaimed coins funds and committees...

Community,

Please apply for one of the committees created.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsrKGhOkVcFpdFRFeHNUdWx3Qy1nTjBPLUFNWUJKQkE&usp=sharing#gid=0

If there are more candidates than places we shall vote for the members.

Everyone has  to present his project before the projectboard (members of all committees) they will do a triage of projects and assign each project to the correct committee.

You find the projectboard here:
https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=809

Three committees will be created:

NXTinfrastructurefund (more hardware related, VPS, clients)
Discussing the projects assigned to this committee will be held here:

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=806


NXTmarketingfund
Discussing the projects assigned to this committee will be held here:

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=807


NXTtechfund (more code related)
Discussing the projects assigned to this committee will be held here:

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=808

Mean time we will moving away from BTT and use the official decentralized forum https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/

Remarks and suggestion welcome

Pin


active members please apply...


new project that want unclaimed coins go here...

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=809



Thanks for organizing this!

James
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NXT is the future

can somebody please stop these assumptions asap, thank you.

letting these things thrive and grow is not good.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Come-from-Beyond, how difficult would it be to add a feature to the asset exchange allowing accounts to trust other accounts for a certain asset up to a specific amount?  The system would have to be able to handle shifting debt balances.

Not very hard.
but, but, this is essentially ripple. They have so many people working for so long and its "Not very hard."
Smiley

I knew there was a reason I divested myself of XRP and put it into NXT

James
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Thanks for the donation, 6075350521143240674!
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