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martismartis

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Quote from: Anon136 on February 17, 2014, 04:53:05 PM

Quote from: martismartis on February 17, 2014, 04:51:19 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on February 17, 2014, 04:46:41 PM

Quote from: ChuckOne on February 17, 2014, 04:43:43 PM

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 17, 2014, 04:40:58 PM

Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

i did a video interview with tai zen about how the network discovers the right chain. i cant make any promises but it may be helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKyXzZJJA8

Anon, I think I'm sure I am not on forked chain. Check http://217.17.88.5:7874/

with base targets like those i would tend to agree. i do not think you are on a fork.

OK. So what is the problem? In public node i see errors for not accepting 90% of good blocks, which are good in blockchain, private node and public node.

opticalcarrier

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Quote from: Anon136 on February 17, 2014, 04:46:41 PM

i did a video interview with tai zen about how the network discovers the right chain. i cant make any promises but it may be helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKyXzZJJA8

dude, the longer you dont author our white paper, the more we will suspect you are BCNext.

Anon136

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Quote from: martismartis on February 17, 2014, 04:51:19 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on February 17, 2014, 04:46:41 PM

Quote from: ChuckOne on February 17, 2014, 04:43:43 PM

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 17, 2014, 04:40:58 PM

Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

i did a video interview with tai zen about how the network discovers the right chain. i cant make any promises but it may be helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKyXzZJJA8

Anon, I think I'm sure I am not on forked chain. Check http://217.17.88.5:7874/

with base targets like those i would tend to agree. i do not think you are on a fork.

rickyjames

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Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 04:26:14 PM

Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 17, 2014, 04:12:14 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

Where can we get a reference on decoding the bytes of a getTransactionBytes API call? And is there anyway to get the bytes for an entire block? Id really like to learn more about the bits/bytes of NXT, can someone point me in the right direction as far as decoding the blockchain?

Today is my first day stumbling around with the API, so not sure of any block format

+1 on this, I am very interested in starting to learn about the block structure too.

martismartis

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Quote from: Anon136 on February 17, 2014, 04:46:41 PM

Quote from: ChuckOne on February 17, 2014, 04:43:43 PM

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 17, 2014, 04:40:58 PM

Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

i did a video interview with tai zen about how the network discovers the right chain. i cant make any promises but it may be helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKyXzZJJA8

Anon, I think I'm sure I am not on forked chain. Check http://217.17.88.5:7874/

Anon136

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Quote from: ChuckOne on February 17, 2014, 04:43:43 PM

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 17, 2014, 04:40:58 PM

Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

i did a video interview with tai zen about how the network discovers the right chain. i cant make any promises but it may be helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKyXzZJJA8

gs02xzz

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Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 17, 2014, 03:59:32 PM

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward. One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused. Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?

It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.

http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

+1. BTW they need to make an out transaction to make their account more secure.

martismartis

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Jean-Luc

Really strange behavior with my public node. I see "DEBUG: Block AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not accepted. Previous block id doesn't match", while block AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I see exists in public node recent blocks, private node recent blocks and in blockchain. How to understand these errors?

EDIT: Public node for checking http://217.17.88.5:7874/

ChuckOne

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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 17, 2014, 04:40:58 PM

Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

Jean-Luc

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Quote from: mikesbmw on February 17, 2014, 03:25:31 PM

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

ChuckOne

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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 17, 2014, 03:51:52 PM

Quote from: ChuckOne on February 17, 2014, 03:18:55 PM

What do you think about TaPoS?

@JL
@CfB
Would it be possible to include TaPoS into NXT?

I think nothing, not interested enough to spend time on deep reading.

I see.

To scrap the surface a bit:

1) value is not to have coins but to be able to spend them on exchange for other goods
2) as a consequence, miners should not be selected by their mining power (PoW) nor by their account balance (PoS) but rather by including as many votes possible (TaPoS)
3) votes are units accumulated over time by the amount of the account balance
4) votes are spend when performing a transaction; that is an account consumes votes when performing transactions
5) denial of service not possible because voting power diminished rapidly during DoS

I asked some questions; let's see what he come up with.

bitmadaboutcoin

newbie

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when i run nxt solaris and add my nxt and try and forge it tells me "failed attempt to forge NRS returned;" do you need nrs running to forge with solaris? if so that makes no sence

EvilDave

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Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 17, 2014, 03:59:32 PM

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward. One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused. Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?

It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.

http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

I think that the best option would be to transfer the balance from Nxts "own" wallet once we have reached the donation target, while using the SoL wallet in most/all of the PR. That way SoL will, even in the future, still receive donations directly. I don't think that there will be much cross-over between the two groups of donors anyway: people who see the PR will probably not even have NXT, and NXT'ers will already have donated to the NXT wallet. So no real confusion, and it all gets there in the end.

Which brings me to some important questions about where are we heading with charity marketing:
Is SoL going to be the "official" NXT charity?
Are we going to make an ongoing commitment to them, or move on to another good cause after we hit the target?
Are multiple charity projects a good idea?
Does any one have any suggestions for another charity to support?

So many questions from me today.....sorry. Wink

jl777

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Quote from: opticalcarrier on February 17, 2014, 04:12:14 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

Where can we get a reference on decoding the bytes of a getTransactionBytes API call? And is there anyway to get the bytes for an entire block? Id really like to learn more about the bits/bytes of NXT, can someone point me in the right direction as far as decoding the blockchain?

Today is my first day stumbling around with the API, so not sure of any block format

wesleyh

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Test Poll creation:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

Only poll creation at them moment, not yet voting.. (tomorrow).. The results are not ordered by creation date, I guess CFB still needs to add this to the API.

wesleyh

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Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 17, 2014, 03:59:32 PM

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward. One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused. Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?

It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.

http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

Doesn't really matter, just do their address. You're going to transfer the funds to them anyway.

wesleyh

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Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 04:06:25 PM

Quote from: wesleyh on February 17, 2014, 03:32:20 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

getTransaction response includes type / subtype

Code:

	if (transaction.type == 0) {
    								transactionType = "Ordinary payment";
    							} else if (transaction.type == 1) {
    								if (transaction.subtype == 0) {
    									transactionType = "Arbitrary message";
    								} else {
    									transactionType = "Alias assignment";
    								}
    							} else if (transaction.type == 2) {
    								switch (transaction.subtype) {
    									case 0: 
    										transactionType = "Asset issuance";
    										break;
    									case 1: 
    										transactionType = "Asset transfer";
    										break;
    									case 2: 
    										transactionType = "Ask order placement";
    										break;
    									case 3: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order placement";
    										break;
    									case 4:
    										transactionType = "Ask order cancellation";
    										break;
    									case 5: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order cancellation";
    										break;
    								}
    							}

Thanks, the API wiki doesnt show this, I guess I just have to assume the wiki is not 100% accurate

Indeed, it does not have all info, but you can find info about all constants via http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getConstants

opticalcarrier

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Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

Where can we get a reference on decoding the bytes of a getTransactionBytes API call? And is there anyway to get the bytes for an entire block? Id really like to learn more about the bits/bytes of NXT, can someone point me in the right direction as far as decoding the blockchain?

jl777

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Activity: 1176

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Quote from: wesleyh on February 17, 2014, 03:32:20 PM

Quote from: jl777 on February 17, 2014, 03:30:47 PM

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

getTransaction response includes type / subtype

Code:

	if (transaction.type == 0) {
    								transactionType = "Ordinary payment";
    							} else if (transaction.type == 1) {
    								if (transaction.subtype == 0) {
    									transactionType = "Arbitrary message";
    								} else {
    									transactionType = "Alias assignment";
    								}
    							} else if (transaction.type == 2) {
    								switch (transaction.subtype) {
    									case 0: 
    										transactionType = "Asset issuance";
    										break;
    									case 1: 
    										transactionType = "Asset transfer";
    										break;
    									case 2: 
    										transactionType = "Ask order placement";
    										break;
    									case 3: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order placement";
    										break;
    									case 4:
    										transactionType = "Ask order cancellation";
    										break;
    									case 5: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order cancellation";
    										break;
    								}
    							}

Thanks, the API wiki doesnt show this, I guess I just have to assume the wiki is not 100% accurate

CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime

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*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward. One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused. Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?

It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.

http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

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