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Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 15, 2014, 11:57:42 AM

Quote from: ChuckOne on February 15, 2014, 11:52:22 AM

Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 15, 2014, 08:07:03 AM

Okay. Well, it could be handled in another way.

With a link to a website where changes will be announced.

Relying on external sources is worse than relying on NXT itself. Maybe an alias could be better for that.

Why changing that data at all? If one issues an asset, IMHO the issuer must pay attention to a lot of things. So, the description will be one of them.

Yeah the description is pretty much the business plan and contract rolled in one.

If you issue "1oz .999 GOLD" it can not be changed to "1oz LEAD" or even "1oz .99 GOLD", because then you would be watering down the value.

But upon thinking about it, the Asset would need a website, with a prospectus, plans, goals, and reports for the users and prospective buyers.

Anon is planning on offering services as a Silver Bullion Gateway. If he created an IPO for his company, and received backing, then released shares, the shares would not be based on Silver price so much, they would be based on the amount of business he does, his reputation, and his cost of doing said business. The silver/NXT AE would be a SEPARATE asset, paired at market price. That ASSET description can not change. The value that buyers give to his asset, ie number of NXT vs 10oz Silver bars, will fluctuate, but the asset itself will remain 10oz Silver bars.

If he was EARNING 100NXT a day from the transactions, he could make plans to expand into GOLD or other precious metals, and therefore drive the value of AnonAsssetsInc upwards, and it would be important to know his business plans.

Real world example.

Barrel of Oil is an COMMODITY> 55gal drums. It has a set price ~ $110 lately right? Oil's price fluctuates on Supply and Demand.

EXXON is a COMPANY that drills oil. Exxon can't change the size, or function of OIL, it can only find more, process it more efficiently etc. Exxon's price fluctuates on earnings, profit, loss, future plans and general market principles.

AnonSilver10oz is a COMMODITY > 10oz bars. .999 pure, made by AnonMetalsInc
AnonMetalsInc is a COMPANY that makes, markets, sells and distributes precious metals, among which is AnonSilver10oz

10oz bars will never change their "Description"
Company could start making Frozen Yogurt, Diapers, or any other Assets. But the description would be the same.

EDIT
Do we need to create to AE classes? one commodity and one company?
Or is the commodity more akin to the colored coin of lore, and the company the DAC?

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If anyone needs test coins, let me know. I'll send u 100k, but u'll be supposed to send testcoins to other guys. 100k is the only amount I have left.

Also, could anyone who trusts Klee start forging on the testnet?

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Quote from: wesleyh on February 15, 2014, 12:13:45 PM

Ooh great new features, voting system! Thx :-) What is the API to list open votes?

Not added yet, but u still could develop creation of a poll and vote casting. I'm going to add API calls tomorrow.

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Quote from: d13id on February 15, 2014, 11:42:19 AM

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Quote from: d13id on February 15, 2014, 11:18:25 AM

Hello, guys!
I want to remind you about collecting funds for the motion graphic design.
We need funds to pay sound designer and to dictors. Then the work will be complete.
For now we collected 398 nxt and 10 ltc, but it's not enough to finish video.

Especially i appeal to stakeholders and to devteam.
I'm sure that video will be very good promo of the nxt.
Also we could make more videos about new clients, transparent mining, asset exchange and other features of the nxt.
We should teach people. How else they will know about benefits of the nxt?
Don't pass by. Who except you can support that project? If not you then nobody!

nxt account to collect funds: 8987437801852093688
Here is an original topic

Maybe you should post the amount of money that you need...

The cost of the good dictor ~300$ we need 2 at least
The cost of the good sound designer ~400$
so we need ~1000$
but if we want more videos then we need more

wow, just cool d13id, did you made this infographic yourself?
how much nxt do you need to finish the english version?

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 15, 2014, 12:13:02 PM

Quote from: wesleyh on February 15, 2014, 12:08:29 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 15, 2014, 12:08:02 PM

I have updated the testnet.

What is new?

Added "limit" to "getAsk/BidOrderIds". Also check that bug with "placeAskOrder" plz. Deployed VS, try to play with "createPoll" and "castVote".

Ooh great new features, voting system! Thx :-) What is the API to list open votes?

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Quote from: wesleyh on February 15, 2014, 12:08:29 PM

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 15, 2014, 12:08:02 PM

I have updated the testnet.

What is new?

Added "limit" to "getAsk/BidOrderIds". Also check that bug with "placeAskOrder" plz. Deployed VS, try to play with "createPoll" and "castVote".

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Couple of marketing projects just surfaced (as far as i can see) in the last couple of days:

Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 15, 2014, 11:13:46 AM

I had a question surrounding the ROI for the charity event and not knowing who Blu Cantrell was in another thread, I wanted to address it here as well:

"I'd be happy to address it since this is one of my specializations. If you want to break mainstream news, you need to give writers a story. In our own Nxt bubble, it's easy to get frustrated about the lack of coverage we get when we send out news... but to be honest, that's just not how the world works. Dogecoin understands this intimately with their recent charity drives and news. I've made the phone calls (my experience can be tracked through both Feathercoin and Peercoin) and it's always the same thing... they want something big to write about.

There's a reason professional poker focused so much on charity events as it fought to become more mainstream. The goodwill generated from events like this make life much easier for PR teams. If this community decides to pass on it, that's fine.. but it's a mistake from an ROI perspective. It's not about the event, it's about everything around it.

As for Blue Cantrell, well, that's entirely different point. While I appreciate (and live) geek culture, mainstream news that covers mainstream audiences is exactly who I would like to target.

Check my history with Sunny King with Peercoin, I know what I'm talking about in this realm. Either way, I appreciate the consideration.
"

And CoinTropolis' earlier post with my reply:

Quote from: EvilDave on February 14, 2014, 07:26:26 PM

Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 14, 2014, 06:19:52 PM

Team,

We have a major opportunity with the charity to be the official sponsor:

"We can bill it as Nxt presents…,

Check out who we have on the bill:

songsoflove.org/LA

We can change the bitcoin Logo to Nxt."

Not only would we gain press before the event (which would open doors to a number of different writers), we would get media exposure at the event. I need to work out the details this weekend, but yeah... I'm pumped. If Dogecoin can raise $30k for a bobsled team, I see no reason we can't raise $10k+.

Blu Cantrell will be there... guys, this is a huge event.

Sorry for the lack of response so far, but u guys are kinda rushing in the door and announcing breathlessly that u have a great opportunity for us......we need to cover some basics first.

1) Does the NXT community want to throw cash out now on mainstream marketing? The clients are all good, but we are still a long way from being ready to attract and keep Joe Public on the NXT boat. Conferences seem to be a very good use of marketing right now, that and getting the tech up and running....

2) Do we want to be associated with this event anyway ? I know some NXT'ers are totally against charity marketing.
WTF is songsoflove.org all about ?

Give us more info, pls, start a debate, get a decision from the NXT community.

BTW. Blu Cantrell ? Cute, nice tunes, but not exactly A-list, eh?
or did I miss something in the last decade?

CoinTropolis: maybe u've gone thru this on one of the other forums, too lazy to chack right now, but could u address my ponts above?
Does the NXT community want this or.......?

and on to another marketing project:

Quote from: d13id on February 15, 2014, 11:18:25 AM

Hello, guys!
I want to remind you about collecting funds for the motion graphic design.
We need funds to pay sound designer and to dictors. Then the work will be complete.
For now we collected 398 nxt and 10 ltc, but it's not enough to finish video.

Especially i appeal to stakeholders and to devteam.
I'm sure that video will be very good promo of the nxt.
Also we could make more videos about new clients, transparent mining, asset exchange and other features of the nxt.
We should teach people. How else they will know about benefits of the nxt?
Don't pass by. Who except you can support that project? If not you then nobody!

nxt account to collect funds: 8987437801852093688
Here is an original topic

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Had a look at the vid, it's ok, but still quite rough.
Again: put some more work into it, engage with the NXT community about it, put in requests for funds if u get a positive response.
U can't expect NXT , at this stage, to just throw large piles of cash at every mainstream marketing tool that comes along and asks for it.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on February 15, 2014, 12:08:02 PM

I have updated the testnet.

What is new?

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I have updated the testnet.

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Let's just wait for the english video and then we move on.

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 15, 2014, 11:43:01 AM

Quote from: d13id on February 15, 2014, 11:42:19 AM

The cost of the good dictor ~300$ we need 2 at least
The cost of the good sound designer ~400$
so we need ~1000$
but if we want more videos then we need more

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 15, 2014, 11:38:51 AM

For the first video+audio draft, I'm sure Joefox will help you. Sound expert and smooth voice. And we should work on the content a little more.

So we need 300$ for the russian voice.

Let's first make the english one and see, how it works.

$300 for russian voice seems to be very high, I know some girls/dictors who will record about an hour for such rate

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Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 15, 2014, 11:59:20 AM

Quote from: gs02xzz on February 15, 2014, 11:30:36 AM

Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 15, 2014, 11:13:46 AM

I had a question surrounding the ROI for the charity event and not knowing who Blu Cantrell was in another thread, I wanted to address it here as well:

"I'd be happy to address it since this is one of my specializations. If you want to break mainstream news, you need to give writers a story. In our own Nxt bubble, it's easy to get frustrated about the lack of coverage we get when we send out news... but to be honest, that's just not how the world works. Dogecoin understands this intimately with their recent charity drives and news. I've made the phone calls (my experience can be tracked through both Feathercoin and Peercoin) and it's always the same thing... they want something big to write about.

There's a reason professional poker focused so much on charity events as it fought to become more mainstream. The goodwill generated from events like this make life much easier for PR teams. If this community decides to pass on it, that's fine.. but it's a mistake from an ROI perspective. It's not about the event, it's about everything around it.

As for Blue Cantrell, well, that's entirely different point. While I appreciate (and live) geek culture, mainstream news that covers mainstream audiences is exactly who I would like to target.

Check my history with Sunny King with Peercoin, I know what I'm talking about in this realm. Either way, I appreciate the consideration.
"

+1. What is the donation account for this project? I believe many people will open their NXT wallets for it.

Fantastic! I'm just waiting for Salsacz to give me a donation address (he's keeping it in escrow) and I'll make the formal launch! We'll be able to write press releases around topics like:

- Bitcoin competitor Nxt raises $10k to support sick children
- Nxt donates $10k to children's charity Songs of Love

We could do interviews with the foundation, put the charity information prominently on the website, use pics from the event in future marketing. Once we start breaking through it becomes much easier to get other writers on board with future news. This is not about 1 event, it's about kicking off the PR in high gear. The community wants results, I'm laying out a solid blueprint on how to make it happen.

I like it.

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Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 15, 2014, 11:56:56 AM

If joefox agrees to help, he will contact you.

ok

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Quote from: gs02xzz on February 15, 2014, 11:30:36 AM

Quote from: CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime on February 15, 2014, 11:13:46 AM

I had a question surrounding the ROI for the charity event and not knowing who Blu Cantrell was in another thread, I wanted to address it here as well:

"I'd be happy to address it since this is one of my specializations. If you want to break mainstream news, you need to give writers a story. In our own Nxt bubble, it's easy to get frustrated about the lack of coverage we get when we send out news... but to be honest, that's just not how the world works. Dogecoin understands this intimately with their recent charity drives and news. I've made the phone calls (my experience can be tracked through both Feathercoin and Peercoin) and it's always the same thing... they want something big to write about.

There's a reason professional poker focused so much on charity events as it fought to become more mainstream. The goodwill generated from events like this make life much easier for PR teams. If this community decides to pass on it, that's fine.. but it's a mistake from an ROI perspective. It's not about the event, it's about everything around it.

As for Blue Cantrell, well, that's entirely different point. While I appreciate (and live) geek culture, mainstream news that covers mainstream audiences is exactly who I would like to target.

Check my history with Sunny King with Peercoin, I know what I'm talking about in this realm. Either way, I appreciate the consideration.
"

+1. What is the donation account for this project? I believe many people will open their NXT wallets for it.

Fantastic! I'm just waiting for Salsacz to give me a donation address (he's keeping it in escrow) and I'll make the formal launch! We'll be able to write press releases around topics like:

- Bitcoin competitor Nxt raises $10k to support sick children
- Nxt donates $10k to children's charity Songs of Love

We could do interviews with the foundation, put the charity information prominently on the website, use pics from the event in future marketing. Once we start breaking through it becomes much easier to get other writers on board with future news. This is not about 1 event, it's about kicking off the PR in high gear. The community wants results, I'm laying out a solid blueprint on how to make it happen.

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Quote from: pinarello on February 15, 2014, 11:49:35 AM

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on February 15, 2014, 11:38:51 AM

@Pin: ?

@d13id: For the first video+audio draft, I'm sure Joefox will help you. Sound expert and smooth voice. And we should work on the content a little more.

thank you, but this is not my initiative. just saying when they wanna do something for the community, deliver first and then ask for money not the other way around

I did my youtube channel (165 subs, 7000 views) and facebook for free, but seems that isnt good enough so I am saying to them make it happen.

You can't demand that everyone plays by the rules you set for yourself. Well, you can, but I don't think it will help at all.

He is asking for donations, and if he hires people, that is normal.

He is not saying ANYTHING about your efforts at all.

Sorry, but in this case, I just totally disagree with you.

Edit: and that is no reflection of my appreciation for your large efforts, either. They stand!

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Quote from: ChuckOne on February 15, 2014, 11:52:22 AM

Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 15, 2014, 08:07:03 AM

Okay. Well, it could be handled in another way.

With a link to a website where changes will be announced.

Relying on external sources is worse than relying on NXT itself. Maybe an alias could be better for that.

Why changing that data at all? If one issues an asset, IMHO the issuer must pay attention to a lot of things. So, the description will be one of them.

Yeah the description is pretty much the business plan and contract rolled in one.

If you issue "1oz .999 GOLD" it can not be changed to "1oz LEAD" or even "1oz .99 GOLD", because then you would be watering down the value.

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If joefox agrees to help, he will contact you.

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☕ NXT-4BTE-8Y4K-CDS2-6TB82

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Why is my node deciding that it will pop so many blocks in a row?

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Quote from: jl777 on February 15, 2014, 12:43:05 AM

Quote from: brooklynbtc on February 15, 2014, 12:07:51 AM

Quote from: kknk808 on February 14, 2014, 12:28:28 PM

Quote from: Damelon on February 14, 2014, 11:47:40 AM

By the way: last chance to get your money out of Nxtchg today: https://nxtchg.com/index.php

Seems like it has been sold.

I believe optical and brooklynbtc bought it. I think Tongue

Still in negotiation, But I am looking to purchase it with a team including support from
Msin, LTC_Passion, and voldermort628. Optical Carrier has not spoken to me or anyone with my group.

If we do take it over our immediate plans will be update and refresh it.
We are looking to add a NXT/LTC pair as well, and whatever else the community is interested in (DOGE?)

We will keep all fees frozen at zero at this time, with the exception of the system transfer fees (ie 1NXT to send, and 0.0001 BTC)

Once these updates are done, our goal is to charge a 1% trading fee, and at the same time offer an IPO on the Automated Exchange with shares for sale, so to fund our growth in to decentralized AE NXT/BTC and NXT/LTC gateway.

We are looking into an early adopter referral fee program as well.

Thanks and looking forward to helping NXT grow!

jefdiesel

I'd like an active DOGE/NXT market, but where it is NXT price divided by DOGE, so a low number means NXT is low and high number means NXT is high. It is also easy to find the dilution parity point. Just look at how many billion DOGE exists on coinmarketcap and anything below that number means NXT is trading at a discount to DOGE, on a purely dilution basis.

It is kind of a sobering calculation of the market value of pure marketing network effect. Anybody that says marketing doesnt work, or is not worth it just needs to do this calculation. The crazy thing is that the network effect once established could take years to go away.

James

P.S. Would you be interested in becoming one of the community gateways?

Hey james,
We would love to discuss community gateways in the near future. Our back of envelope roadmap is to go in that direction.

We want to refresh the site, add some features and coin pairs, grow the users, and once it is running smoothly, and AE functions well, we will be right there with the community.

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Quote from: Passion_ltc on February 15, 2014, 08:07:03 AM

Okay. Well, it could be handled in another way.

With a link to a website where changes will be announced.

Relying on external sources is worse than relying on NXT itself. Maybe an alias could be better for that.

Why changing that data at all? If one issues an asset, IMHO the issuer must pay attention to a lot of things. So, the description will be one of them.

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