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Topic: NY BITCOIN LICENSE REGULATIONS ARE HERE - page 2. (Read 3479 times)

sr. member
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Since I didn't really read the thing, does it really say that bitcoins that haven't moved for 5 years become the property of the state? Exactly how is that supposed to happen?

You open a Coinbase account.  You have bitcoins on there.  You don't touch them for 5 years.  The government forces Coinbase to follow their existing escheatment laws and send them the money (assuming you are a resident of NY).  This already happens with your bank accounts.  I had one with a few bucks in it that I hadn't used for years.  They sent me a letter that said in 60 days they were sending it to the state.  I had to call and "reset the clock".

Obviously, nobody can seize bitcoins that you hold yourself.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
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This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.

History will prove you wrong, friend.

This changes the game... for... who? Businesses and financial institutions in the world's #1 financial hub.

This means existing financial entities are getting the necessary go-ahead from regulators.

This means they are getting an onboarding path for working with Bitcoin.

This means Financial technology startups are going to base out of New York instead of California.

Less than a year ago, before the senate hearings, Bitcoin being effectively outlawed in the United States was totally plausible.

And now look where we are...

Maybe nothing changes to you, right now, but in the big picture of things, this is as crucial as it gets.


+1

This is very good news for the Wallstreet.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Since I didn't really read the thing, does it really say that bitcoins that haven't moved for 5 years become the property of the state? Exactly how is that supposed to happen?
full member
Activity: 230
Merit: 100
They are trying to take bitcoin out of the "dark web". Not sure it will work since we have mixers and dark wallet, for example. If it gives bitcoin more legitimacy for billion dollar investment types, I don't think it's a bad thing. Users who want anonymous transactions with bitcoin will find a way. The state has to at least pretend it can do something about it.

Lawsky seems to really like bitcoin, so I think some compromises with the community will be forthcoming.
legendary
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You can't show us a little of what your link is? I don't click on random pdf files.

It's a .gov site.

Right, because we should trust every government employee that can upload to a webserver Roll Eyes.

Do you have any idea how many government workers there are out there who know nothing about computer security?  Even without a malicious actor, the PDF could become infected if the producer's PC was infected.  As someone who did tech support for many government entities back in the day, I can assure you that government workers frequently manage to infect their computers.  Trusting it just because it is from a .gov site is foolish.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1015
sweet, time for my domains to go to the moon!!!!

NEWYORKBITCOINLICENSE.COM
NEWYORKBITLICENSE.COM
NEWYORKBITLICENSES.COM
NYBITCOINLICENSE.COM
NYBITLICENSE.COM
NYBITLICENSES.COM

wtf? why would such domain names be of any value?
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
You can't show us a little of what your link is? I don't click on random pdf files.

It's a .gov site.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

...Exactly.

I see what you did here  Grin

Bullish news, but not sure if it will have a great impact
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0

History will prove you wrong, friend.

This changes the game... for... who? Businesses and financial institutions in the world's #1 financial hub.


What's this got to do with London?
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
You can't show us a little of what your link is? I don't click on random pdf files.

It's a .gov site.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

...Exactly.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
Notice to bears: This Is Actually Good News™.

To bears, to bulls. To cowboys and to indians:

It's nothing more than as expected. Neutral.

Nodding, next news pls.

It's not over-regulated, so it's bullish
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
You can't show us a little of what your link is? I don't click on random pdf files.

It's a .gov site.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.

History will prove you wrong. This changes the game for financial institutions in the world's #1 financial hub.

Financial technology startups are going to base out of New York instead of Silicon Valley or Frankfurt, or London, or...

Maybe that's right, but is this news more than what was already expected? In the longer term this could realy matter by the further progress of adoption and development ...

...but for now? Nothing.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.

No, say it ain't so!  According to everyone, this news and looming ETF news was supposed to take us to the moon!!

Is this not the same as with all news?
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.

History will prove you wrong, friend.

This changes the game... for... who? Businesses and financial institutions in the world's #1 financial hub.

This means existing financial entities are getting the necessary go-ahead from regulators.

This means they are getting an onboarding path for working with Bitcoin.

This means Financial technology startups are going to base out of New York instead of California.

Less than a year ago, before the senate hearings, Bitcoin being effectively outlawed in the United States was totally plausible.

And now look where we are...

Maybe nothing changes to you, right now, but in the big picture of things, this is as crucial as it gets.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429
This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.

No, say it ain't so!  According to everyone, this news and looming ETF news was supposed to take us to the moon!!
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
This changes nothing. Only news is that we might be on the news, lol.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
July 17, 2014, 09:47:08 AM
#9
Notice to bears: This Is Actually Good News™.

To bears, to bulls. To cowboys and to indians:

It's nothing more than as expected. Neutral.

Nodding, next news pls.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278
July 17, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
#8
Notice to bears: This Is Actually Good News™.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 17, 2014, 09:40:24 AM
#7
45 day comment period, which will go by in no time. After then, any thoughts how long until the regs are in play?
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
July 17, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
#6
Everything looks pretty standard. I don't really like this section however, and I'm not sure how it can be enforced...

Records of Virtual Currency transactions.
Each Licensee shall maintain the following information for all transactions involving the payment, receipt, exchange or conversion, purchase, sale, transfer, or transmission of Virtual Currency: the identity and physical addresses of the parties involved, the amount or value of the transaction, including in what denomination purchased, sold, or transferred, the method of payment, the date(s) on which the transaction was initiated and completed, and a description of the transaction.
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