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Topic: NYC Bitcoin Center - Opens on Wall Street - Jan 1st (Read 6783 times)

BCB
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BCJ
OK, basic questions:

It's January 4th. Did this "Bitcoin Center" actually open? Exactly where is it? What happens there? Pictures?

http://www.bitcoinnewyearseve.com/
BCB
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BCJ

In fact anyone could write to them to tell they why they thing this should or should not be a good idea.


imagine that one of the presumed 'leaders' of these meetups lives in his parents basement and is likely to do just about anything if some VC throws him a few hundred bucks.  Maybe he's already demonstrated his willingness to do just that.

don't you think this person would be considered untrustworthy?

You talking about Jonathan  ??


why does that description fit Jonathan?

if he is taking payments, he should make that clear to the public.

I have no idea.  You seem to be making cryptic accusations.  Just asking for clarity in your statements.   
legendary
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OK, basic questions:

It's January 4th. Did this "Bitcoin Center" actually open? Exactly where is it? What happens there? Pictures?
sr. member
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bluemeanie

In fact anyone could write to them to tell they why they thing this should or should not be a good idea.


imagine that one of the presumed 'leaders' of these meetups lives in his parents basement and is likely to do just about anything if some VC throws him a few hundred bucks.  Maybe he's already demonstrated his willingness to do just that.

don't you think this person would be considered untrustworthy?

You talking about Jonathan  ??


why does that description fit Jonathan?

if he is taking payments, he should make that clear to the public.
hero member
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We have relentless in-your-face persistence and martyrs on our side.  The other teams have nothing but mercenaries and traitors.  There is only one possible outcome.

Its a great feeling. It actually gives me faith in humanity.
BCB
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BCJ

In fact anyone could write to them to tell they why they thing this should or should not be a good idea.


imagine that one of the presumed 'leaders' of these meetups lives in his parents basement and is likely to do just about anything if some VC throws him a few hundred bucks.  Maybe he's already demonstrated his willingness to do just that.

don't you think this person would be considered untrustworthy?

You talking about Jonathan  ??
sr. member
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This kind of news is so great, it really highlights why Bitcoin is destined to crush all other payment methods.  Nothing else has this level of enthusiasm behind it.

Can you imagine any unpaid volunteers donating time and money to create a PayPal Center, a Visa Center, a Dwolla Center, or even a Federal Reserve Note center?

We have relentless in-your-face persistence and martyrs on our side.  The other teams have nothing but mercenaries and traitors.  There is only one possible outcome.

True, you got a point there!
legendary
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Very nice. Good work!
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bluemeanie

In fact anyone could write to them to tell they why they thing this should or should not be a good idea.


imagine that one of the presumed 'leaders' of these meetups lives in his parents basement and is likely to do just about anything if some VC throws him a few hundred bucks.  Maybe he's already demonstrated his willingness to do just that.

don't you think this person would be considered untrustworthy?
BCB
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BCJ
A 3:30 video of Rep. Stockman and Nick Spanos of Bitcoin Center NYC talking about their opinions on Bitcoin has been been published on Youtube in connection with the upcoming documentary Invisible Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZlB6gS7qHU

Invisible Money Documentary blog:
http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/

Full Disclosure: I'm producing this documentary along with director Chris Cannucciari.

Didn't the FTC (or someone) come out and say fairly recently that political donations via Bitcoins were illegal?  

On a personal note I think its great if are legal and this gets some traction in Congress!

The Federal Election Commission (FEC) the agency that rules on these issues was actually deadlocked on their last vote.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/21/fec-deadlocks-for-now-on-whether-political-committees-can-accept-bitcoin/

FTC, FEC, same thing. Wink 

Ok, so if they are deadlocked at of Nov, doesn't that assume the answer is no until they review the issue again, hopefully at some point??

I'm sure they are taking the same approach as every one is, which is : "Wait and See"

The may meet again and discuss it and come to a different decision. 

By the way. Here is the original request.  Its a pretty good paper. You should read it.
http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/dbcs/pages/128/attachments/original/1377266530/2013-08-21_Innovation_PAC_AOR_(1).pdf?1377266530

Then the bitcoin foundation also wrote a letter in support of this.
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Bitcoin-Foundation-FEC-filing-CAF-Advisory-Opinion.pdf

In fact anyone could write to them to tell they why they thing this should or should not be a good idea.



hero member
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A 3:30 video of Rep. Stockman and Nick Spanos of Bitcoin Center NYC talking about their opinions on Bitcoin has been been published on Youtube in connection with the upcoming documentary Invisible Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZlB6gS7qHU

Invisible Money Documentary blog:
http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/

Full Disclosure: I'm producing this documentary along with director Chris Cannucciari.

Didn't the FTC (or someone) come out and say fairly recently that political donations via Bitcoins were illegal?  

On a personal note I think its great if are legal and this gets some traction in Congress!

The Federal Election Commission (FEC) the agency that rules on these issues was actually deadlocked on their last vote.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/21/fec-deadlocks-for-now-on-whether-political-committees-can-accept-bitcoin/

FTC, FEC, same thing. Wink 

Ok, so if they are deadlocked at of Nov, doesn't that assume the answer is no until they review the issue again, hopefully at some point??
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bluemeanie
A group of bitcoin true believers, led by foundation member Nick Spanos, is opening a Bitcoin Center on 40 Broad Street in Lower Manhattan. The goal is to have a location in which interested people can come to be educated and integrated into the Bitcoin economy.

I just found this thread, and I was excited about this when I read about it, but now to find out that it is using the "foundation" name to either sound legit or to be a local chapter disappoints me. As a New Yorker who lives near this area and would have loved to spend a couple days a week in their learning, teaching and just working on new bitcoin stuff. I would have also donated my skills, time and money. The foundation is a horrible organization that just wants to hire scammers to lead it's anti-openness of information, so to be allow myself to be affiliated with such corruption, I just can't. This is a real shame, and I am probably more upset about this. I really hope this place would consider not using the foundation name to promote, or even work alongside it.

Before you write this off, as a troll or something of that sort, remember I been here for over a year, been in bitcoins over 2yrs, I know what I am talking about, and I would have loved to help in anyway.

just keep in mind, some of the people who are acting as 'community leaders' are taking payola and bribes from various VC interests and the like, while pretending to be about the 'average bitcoin user'.  You have to be super careful about what it is these people are promoting.  The values are very subtle and hard to interpret.

Just because someone says, 'were opening up a bitcoin center' don't assume someone is doing it for YOUR good.  One of the bitcoin meetup people actually was selling spots on the meetup for few hundred dollars, in other words you show up to the meeting and sit through an hour long advertisement that someone paid $250 for, but it's a secret.  All these things are just turning into cheap promotions outlets and dull commercialized information.  We have Gala Bitcoin events now?  who are they kidding?  Coindesk is clearly another commercialized mouthpiece.

The big boys want to own bitcoin, and this is generally how they do it.
BCB
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BCJ
A 3:30 video of Rep. Stockman and Nick Spanos of Bitcoin Center NYC talking about their opinions on Bitcoin has been been published on Youtube in connection with the upcoming documentary Invisible Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZlB6gS7qHU

Invisible Money Documentary blog:
http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/

Full Disclosure: I'm producing this documentary along with director Chris Cannucciari.

Didn't the FTC (or someone) come out and say fairly recently that political donations via Bitcoins were illegal?  

On a personal note I think its great if are legal and this gets some traction in Congress!

The Federal Election Commission (FEC) the agency that rules on these issues was actually deadlocked on their last vote.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/21/fec-deadlocks-for-now-on-whether-political-committees-can-accept-bitcoin/
hero member
Activity: 994
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A 3:30 video of Rep. Stockman and Nick Spanos of Bitcoin Center NYC talking about their opinions on Bitcoin has been been published on Youtube in connection with the upcoming documentary Invisible Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZlB6gS7qHU

Invisible Money Documentary blog:
http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/

Full Disclosure: I'm producing this documentary along with director Chris Cannucciari.

Didn't the FTC (or someone) come out and say fairly recently that political donations via Bitcoins were illegal? 

On a personal note I think its great if are legal and this gets some traction in Congress!
sr. member
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Get news, I just hope they can do this in every countries. Then a lot more people will use bitcoin.
legendary
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A group of bitcoin true believers, led by foundation member Nick Spanos, is opening a Bitcoin Center on 40 Broad Street in Lower Manhattan. The goal is to have a location in which interested people can come to be educated and integrated into the Bitcoin economy.

I just found this thread, and I was excited about this when I read about it, but now to find out that it is using the "foundation" name to either sound legit or to be a local chapter disappoints me. As a New Yorker who lives near this area and would have loved to spend a couple days a week in their learning, teaching and just working on new bitcoin stuff. I would have also donated my skills, time and money. The foundation is a horrible organization that just wants to hire scammers to lead it's anti-openness of information, so to be allow myself to be affiliated with such corruption, I just can't. This is a real shame, and I am probably more upset about this. I really hope this place would consider not using the foundation name to promote, or even work alongside it.

Before you write this off, as a troll or something of that sort, remember I been here for over a year, been in bitcoins over 2yrs, I know what I am talking about, and I would have loved to help in anyway.
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bluemeanie
Reposting a pretty cool post I saw on another forum, hope this is okay with the author:

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Hello All,

   A group of bitcoin true believers, led by foundation member Nick Spanos, is opening a Bitcoin Center on 40 Broad Street in Lower Manhattan. The goal is to have a location in which interested people can come to be educated and integrated into the Bitcoin economy.

The location assures it will get plenty of attention and this could be a huge boon for bitcoin in 2014.

We are having a grand opening new years eve party at the location and all are invited.

http://www.bitcoinnewyearseve.com/

Please Come Out, This is Big!


ok why is Nick Spanos qualified for this?

doing something like this could mean two things:

1) people are getting together and organizing

2) someone is trying to buy out the community


which one is it?

no reason to naively cheer on obvious press releases.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
It looks like the big announcement wasn't the Fortress thing but the keynote congressman speaker who is running for senator in Texas accepting BTC for donations, and promising to introduce a bill to keep Bitcoin regulation-free in the USA.

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Congressman Steve Stockman announces that he is putting forth a bill this January to protect #Bitcoin

okay, "nice"   Wink

but the fortness news was better (and bigger)  Grin

thanks for the video.
newbie
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A 3:30 video of Rep. Stockman and Nick Spanos of Bitcoin Center NYC talking about their opinions on Bitcoin has been been published on Youtube in connection with the upcoming documentary Invisible Money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZlB6gS7qHU

Invisible Money Documentary blog:
http://invisiblemoneydocumentary.wordpress.com/

Full Disclosure: I'm producing this documentary along with director Chris Cannucciari.
hero member
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It looks like the big announcement wasn't the Fortress thing but the keynote congressman speaker who is running for senator in Texas accepting BTC for donations, and promising to introduce a bill to keep Bitcoin regulation-free in the USA.

Quote
Congressman Steve Stockman announces that he is putting forth a bill this January to protect #Bitcoin
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