Topic: Obama Is Pressed to Open Military Front Against ISIS in Libya - page 3. (Read 2575 times)

According to Colonel Peters....

International borders are never completely just. But the degree of injustice they inflict upon those whom frontiers force together or separate makes an enormous difference — often the difference between freedom and oppression, tolerance and atrocity, the rule of law and terrorism, or even peace and war.

The most arbitrary and distorted borders in the world are in Africa and the Middle East. Drawn by self-interested Europeans (who have had sufficient trouble defining their own frontiers), Africa’s borders continue to provoke the deaths of millions of local inhabitants. But the unjust borders in the Middle East — to borrow from Churchill — generate more trouble than can be consumed locally.

While the Middle East has far more problems than dysfunctional borders alone — from cultural stagnation through scandalous inequality to deadly religious extremism — the greatest taboo in striving to understand the region’s comprehensive failure isn’t Islam, but the awful-but-sacrosanct international boundaries worshipped by our own diplomats.

Of course, no adjustment of borders, however draconian, could make every minority in the Middle East happy. In some instances, ethnic and religious groups live intermingled and have intermarried. Elsewhere, reunions based on blood or belief might not prove quite as joyous as their current proponents expect. The boundaries projected in the maps accompanying this article redress the wrongs suffered by the most significant “cheated” population groups, such as the Kurds, Baluch and Arab Shia [Muslims], but still fail to account adequately for Middle Eastern Christians, Bahais, Ismailis, Naqshbandis and many another numerically lesser minorities. And one haunting wrong can never be redressed with a reward of territory: the genocide perpetrated against the Armenians by the dying Ottoman Empire.

Yet, for all the injustices the borders re-imagined here leave unaddressed, without such major boundary revisions, we shall never see a more peaceful Middle East.

Even those who abhor the topic of altering borders would be well-served to engage in an exercise that attempts to conceive a fairer, if still imperfect, amendment of national boundaries between the Bosphorus and the Indus. Accepting that international statecraft has never developed effective tools — short of war — for readjusting faulty borders, a mental effort to grasp the Middle East’s “organic” frontiers nonetheless helps us understand the extent of the difficulties we face and will continue to face. We are dealing with colossal, man-made deformities that will not stop generating hatred and violence until they are corrected.

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

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The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy.

Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

Syria will be divided in Sunni, Shia and Kurdish territories

Obama is pressed to establish another prostitute dictatorship in Syria. US tax payers will pay for this, but all benefits will go to US corruptionists. This is a very good business for corruptionists.

So far Obama hasn't gotten anything right in Syria or Iraq other than both countries utterly destroyed.

They were strong  and powerful countries, everybody lived good, a lot of foreign people worked there, no extremism, Gadafi wanted to improve irigation system so they can convert waste in useful land and start agriculture business..

Libya, Syria & Iraq are the classic examples of ignorant people being used by neocons to dispose their once stable governments on the manipulated lies of human rights, democracy & freedom of speech.

"Application of the doctrine of power holds that highminded words can be used by the powerful, the demagogue and the hypocrite, or the merely self-deluded, to arouse passion and prejudice and sentimentality for the wrong reasons in favor of disguised real aims, thus to deceive the people and to lead them by easy stages to sacrifice their own interests in the service of power."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"Never attempt to win by force what can be won by deception."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"He who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

So called democracy make chaos in Iraq,Syria, Lybia, Egipt an Tunissia..while they were non democracy lands everything worked there and all was in order

He ll destroy already destroyed country totally...But the worst is that all islam radical rats from sub sahar Africa will go there and this ll be new Syria

Obama and his cronies should stop interfering in Europe, why you say he should protect us.
Europe needs protection from the USA.

Invasion


I call for regime change in Washington, how about we interfere over there.
We could bring some cookies along.

Reacted too late? How about not allowing lunatics to destroy these countries to begin with? Now the same shitpile with a 100% record of screwing up everything it meddles with is going to fix Libya? That it destroyed a few years ago. Get real.

Afghanistan is a total mess after suffering 14 years of these nutballs. I guess the solution is to re-invade to screw it up even more.

Western powers have reacted too late in Iraq and Syria and allowed the strengthening of ISIS, and now is very difficult to stop them.
If we allow the strengthening of ISIS also in Libya, only a few hundred kilometers from Europe, it will become an even bigger security problem and should not be allowed.
I hope Obama will make the right decision now and protect not just Libya but all Europe. 

Lybia, Iraq,Syria, all once rich, stable, strong and peaceful countries, with a lot of foreigner workers..and with no radical islam, and very friendly to foreign people...now destroyed with no reason, o yes they were not 'democracy' and no stupid laws, people lived good

Now morons and psychopaths are desperate to get a totally certifiable nutcase, one of the chief architects of the destruction of Libya, that created this present mess - into the freakin White House. Unbelievable. Wall St., the war industry, garbage media and idiots and fruitcakes united. You can´t make this shit up.

Libya is in horrible situation now like Iraq and Syria. It's a big country now divided between tribes and with a lot of radical islamic and lot of fighters from chad and niger ..now ISIS is reuniting and relocating from Syria in Lybia and this can affect Chad, Niger,Mali as well we now what happened with militants in Timbuctu..Obama will do nothing well he ll maybe begin with airstrickes but except mess he wont solve anything