Obama on ISIS: 'We Don't Have a Strategy Yet'

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 16, 2014, 08:00:20 AM

Quote from: shogdite on September 10, 2014, 09:30:25 AM

It's a lot harder for wannabee terrorists to even enter the US since 911, let alone carry out coordinated attacks. Personally I think the likelihood of another big terrorist attack against the West has been blown completely out of proportion.

Don't make me laugh. The American border control is extremely ineffective. Check this:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/09/8/OKeefe-Brings-Attention-To-Porous-Open-US-Northern-Border
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2747965/I-ve-never-seen-Border-Patrol-Filmmaker-shows-Ebola-infected-ISIS-terrorist-sneak-Lake-Erie-Canada-Cleveland-RICIN-Rock-Roll-Hall-Fame.html

James O'Keefe has shown that anyone can cross the American border. The ISIS terrorists are no exception. If the technologically inferior Mexican drug cartels can move their men across the border with ease, what prevents the ISIS from sending its men across the American border?

Sure you can't prevent everyone from sneaking in through the border unless the US builds some massive apartheid wall like Israel. My point is that it's extremely unlikely another 911 could be carried out by groups like ISIS. Bombing them like the West is currently doing will only create more terrorists in the future.

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Quote from: StallionOne on September 18, 2014, 06:01:52 AM

I read some news that US has started doing airtrikes in knows ISIS HQ

Seems like Obama found his strategy.

He even called all his friends from Europe, Uk and Italy are taking part to this war too.

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Quote from: StallionOne on September 18, 2014, 06:01:52 AM

I read some news that US has started doing airtrikes in knows ISIS HQ

Airstrikes happened yesterday on ISIS knows stronghold.

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I read some news that US has started doing airtrikes in knows ISIS HQ

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Quote from: RICHBOSS on September 16, 2014, 07:52:39 AM

You might want to change this.

"If you threaten America, you will find no safe haven" - Obama on ISIS

When obama talks, I get chills

Please tell me this is a sarcastic comment.

When he talks I begin to throw up in my mouth.

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They don't even bother trying to show some respect for sovereignty Cheesy

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Quote from: shogdite on September 10, 2014, 09:30:25 AM

It's a lot harder for wannabee terrorists to even enter the US since 911, let alone carry out coordinated attacks. Personally I think the likelihood of another big terrorist attack against the West has been blown completely out of proportion.

Don't make me laugh. The American border control is extremely ineffective. Check this:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/09/8/OKeefe-Brings-Attention-To-Porous-Open-US-Northern-Border
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2747965/I-ve-never-seen-Border-Patrol-Filmmaker-shows-Ebola-infected-ISIS-terrorist-sneak-Lake-Erie-Canada-Cleveland-RICIN-Rock-Roll-Hall-Fame.html

James O'Keefe has shown that anyone can cross the American border. The ISIS terrorists are no exception. If the technologically inferior Mexican drug cartels can move their men across the border with ease, what prevents the ISIS from sending its men across the American border?

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You might want to change this.

"If you threaten America, you will find no safe haven" - Obama on ISIS

When obama talks, I get chills

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 03, 2014, 02:27:06 PM

Quote from: shogdite on September 03, 2014, 03:32:32 AM

ISIS is pretty much a zero threat to the US mainland, talk of blowing up New York is just scaremongering bullshit. No doubt something needs to be done, would have thought Obama could send in special ops to assassinate the leaders of these psychos.

You are wrong. There are hundreds of American citizens among the ISIS fighters, and the NSA don't have information about all of them. Some of them could slip back in to the US, re-organize themselves and can commit serious terrorist attacks there. They may not be able to blow up New York, but these people are surely capable of doing some nasty stuff.

Sure, I've heard there's also quite a few Europeans fighting for ISIS, doesn't necessarily mean they're going to comeback to their home country and declare jihad against us all. It's a lot harder for wannabee terrorists to even enter the US since 911, let alone carry out coordinated attacks. Personally I think the likelihood of another big terrorist attack against the West has been blown completely out of proportion.

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Just read a horrifying article about the fate of Yazidi sex-slaves taken by the ISIS. Small girls, some just 12 and 13 years old are being gang-raped by the "holy warriors".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/life-under-isis-captured-teenage-girl-tells-story-of-horrendous-abuse-at-the-hands-of-islamic-state-militants-9721746.html

I just hope that someone drops a nuclear bomb in the middle of Iraq and finish off with all these animals. Not only the ISIS people, but also those people who defend their actions should be killed.

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Quote from: countryfree on September 04, 2014, 06:18:15 AM

Seems the mood is changing in Washington:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rise-of-islamic-state-tests-gop-anti-interventionists/2014/09/03/efbe6b86-3382-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

I believe Obama will have a strategy soon, it just takes time to weigh all the options. How much American critics if he send troops? How much bad press all over the Middle East? How will moderate muslims will react, in America and in Europe?

Obama will just approve the defense committee's strategy. Obama's is still sleeping. He will approve it when the defense ministry has something on their mind.

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I don't think that's the case, they are just waiting to see how things will play out as there are so many big question marks around there, it's not only about middle east. Anyway ISIS and Maliki's side are causing so much problems there it's actually a good thing for US, when they will cease to be a useful asset he will then say what his strategy is.

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Seems the mood is changing in Washington:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rise-of-islamic-state-tests-gop-anti-interventionists/2014/09/03/efbe6b86-3382-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

I believe Obama will have a strategy soon, it just takes time to weigh all the options. How much American critics if he send troops? How much bad press all over the Middle East? How will moderate muslims will react, in America and in Europe?

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I personally do not believe they ever have a strategy to be fair. They always go in head first without thinking hoping that it will help and it always comes back to haunt them in the end. I understand that at the moment the situation they are in is pretty bad but going in all guns blazing is not going to help anyone in my opinion. He really does need a strategy and one that is better than what he is doing now.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 04, 2014, 01:46:21 AM

Quote from: hangar18 on September 03, 2014, 11:10:08 PM

Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

Without the financial, technical and manpower support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, ISIS is nothing. If Obama is serious about stopping the ISIS threat, then he can stop them within a few days. Just tell those Saudis and Qataris to stop supporting ISIS. But off course, he will not do that, as the US wants to topple Assad in the first place.

May be a repeat of September 11 twin bombing will make Obama spring up a strategy to stopping this bunch of blood drunk extremists called ISIS instead of running for first place ranking.

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Quote from: hangar18 on September 03, 2014, 11:10:08 PM

Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

Without the financial, technical and manpower support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, ISIS is nothing. If Obama is serious about stopping the ISIS threat, then he can stop them within a few days. Just tell those Saudis and Qataris to stop supporting ISIS. But off course, he will not do that, as the US wants to topple Assad in the first place.

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Last time islamist terrorists provoked the US(9/11) they got the US to create a power vacuum in the middle east that allowed groups like ISIS to emerge. Best case for groups like ISIS is that the US goes in again, fucks something up, retreats and creates more instability that they can exploit

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Obama's just watching 2 journalists beheaded. No action for now.

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Quote from: shogdite on September 03, 2014, 03:32:32 AM

ISIS is pretty much a zero threat to the US mainland, talk of blowing up New York is just scaremongering bullshit. No doubt something needs to be done, would have thought Obama could send in special ops to assassinate the leaders of these psychos.

You are wrong. There are hundreds of American citizens among the ISIS fighters, and the NSA don't have information about all of them. Some of them could slip back in to the US, re-organize themselves and can commit serious terrorist attacks there. They may not be able to blow up New York, but these people are surely capable of doing some nasty stuff.

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Of course, he doesn't have a strategy, but the real situation is much worse than that. The question to ask is who has a strategy?
I don't think a single head of state has one, but the American president is the closest to have one, since he decided in favor of air raids, but against sending troops. That's a start.

Besides the US, I'm waiting for Turkey to have a clear strategy, as it will be the first to suffer if there's a large islamic caliphate next to its border.
What about Egypt?

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