Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on December 19, 2016, 11:46:08 AM

Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.

Issues with ballot paper can be avoided if measures such as early voting and absentee voting are banned. Absentee voting is the main avenue for voter fraud these days. Remember the Franken vs Coleman race?

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on December 19, 2016, 11:46:08 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on December 19, 2016, 08:36:41 AM

Paper ballots are the answer. Unless you go full crypto. But they won't do the latter.

Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.

Backwards is okay.

The problem with crypto is that the powers that be will not implement a system that's not amendable to their desires for corruption. Paper ballots are less so.

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Quote from: Spendulus on December 19, 2016, 08:36:41 AM

Paper ballots are the answer. Unless you go full crypto. But they won't do the latter.

Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.

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Quote from: Spendulus on December 19, 2016, 08:36:41 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 08:59:57 AM

Quote from: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 05:16:19 AM

Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.

Exactly.

Paper ballots are the answer. Unless you go full crypto. But they won't do the latter.

I prefer paper ballots. Crypto is a good idea. But I don't think that it can be implemented without any trouble in cities such as Detroit and San Diego, where the majority of the population are computer-illiterates.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 08:59:57 AM

Quote from: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 05:16:19 AM

Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.

Exactly.

Paper ballots are the answer. Unless you go full crypto. But they won't do the latter.

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Quote from: devthedev on December 17, 2016, 12:50:32 AM

Perhaps. The recount in Michigan turned up more Democrat votes than actual people in some precincts. So Democrats donated to expose Democrat voter fraud.

Yeah.... if you remember, it was the Democrat appointed US District Judge Mark Goldsmith, who initially ordered a recount in Michigan. It was the same judge, who hastily halted it, when massive voter fraud was exposed in Detroit.

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The Detroit News found voting scanning machines at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts — 37 percent — tabulated more ballots than the number of actual voters counted in the poll books.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 08:59:57 AM

Quote from: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 05:16:19 AM

Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.

Perhaps. The recount in Michigan turned up more Democrat votes than actual people in some precincts. So Democrats donated to expose Democrat voter fraud.

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Shocker: Even Obama Lawyers Admit Birth Certificate Forged:

Quote from: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocker-even-obama-lawyers-admit-birth-certificate-forged-but-eligibilitys-a-separate-matter_12162016

The conversation about Barack Obama's birth certificate has been off the table for a while now – but the true heart of the matter has never been resolved.

Has anything in his administration been valid or legal? Oddly enough, it seems that a clever legal strategy may make the question of a forged document somehow irrelevant to Obama's eligibility to hold office.

Coincidentally or not, it was none other than President-elect Donald Trump who, arguably, called off the hounds, got the Obama Admin to produce a document, and then called the whole thing square in the lead up to 2012.

More recently, Trump dismissed his previous ties to the "birther movement" during the last few weeks of his presidential campaign, brushing off the topic very hurriedly by stating: "President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period."

However, the question isn't settled for investigators who have been conducting a five-year probe of the birth certificate they claim is a forgery – complete with photoshop layers!

Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocker-even-obama-lawyers-admit-birth-certificate-forged-but-eligibilitys-a-separate-matter_12162016.

Cool

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Is Obama even qualified to order a full review?!

Sheriff Arpaio: 5-Year Investigation Finds '9 Points Of Forgery' In Obama's Birth Certificate.

Quote from: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/12/16/sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery-in-obamas-birth-certificate/

This [video] is a must watch.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his team claim to have found one of the source documents from which Obama's birth certificate was allegedly forged.

From Western Journalism:

The office of Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio presented what it characterized as proof that the birth certificate the White House offered as evidence of President Obama's American birth is not real.

Arpaio began the press conference Thursday in Phoenix by assuring reporters the office had "followed the evidence" and would have been just as satisfied if it had determined the certificate was authentic.

In the hour-long presentation, Arpaio's lead investigator, Mike Zullo, made the case that the certificate was created from a "source" document: the birth certificate of Hawaiian Johanna Ah Nee, who was born within weeks of Obama in August 1961.

The Ah Nee document was originally obtained from investigative journalist Jerome Corsi, the author of several books and a contributor to the website World Net Daily.

According to Zullo, two separate forensic expert sources from two continents — Reed Hayes from Hawaii and the For Lab team in Italy — reviewed the Obama certificate and concluded it was not authentic.

Zullo told reporters Hayes has 45 years in the field and originally did not want to take the case because he is an Obama supporter and voted for him twice.

After reviewing the Obama certificate, the court expert stated, "I can't clear this. There is something wrong with it."

Zullo showed a video to reporters that purported to demonstrate how the date stamp in two different boxes on Obama's certificate had the exact angle and placement, matching one of the date stamps on the Ah Nee original.

The investigator stated this was nearly a statistical impossibility.

He also said two boxes on the Obama certificate were marked in the exact same manner as the Ah Nee document running into words above, leading his team to believe they had been lifted and inserted into a created certificate.

WOW: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Releases New Information on President Obama's Birth Certificate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM

Read more and click the links at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/12/16/sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery-in-obamas-birth-certificate/.

Regarding Trump:

Quote from: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/12/16/sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery-in-obamas-birth-certificate/

I’d love to see Trump reopen this investigation just to trigger liberals into losing their minds

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Quote from: notbatman on December 16, 2016, 08:48:36 AM

O'Bongo has called a press conference this afternoon to discuss how Putin hacked the election and planted pictures of babyfuckers to start pizzagate.

Armageddon in 3, 2, ...

Damn! I'm not even ready for Christmas yet; so many things to do and now I have to add "check the expiry date on my potassium iodide pills" to the list. On the bright side, maybe I wont have to go to work tonight. Roll Eyes

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O'Bongo has called a press conference this afternoon to discuss how Putin hacked the election and planted pictures of babyfuckers to start pizzagate.

Armageddon in 3, 2, ...

edit:

"Obama vows action against Russia over election hacks" -- BBC "Legacy" News
source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38337109

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Quote from: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 05:16:19 AM

Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.

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Quote from: lafona on December 14, 2016, 09:19:12 PM

Did any of you guys hear about the followmyvote voting on blockchain idea? It seemed like it could helped with both voting and polling, things this election could have used better options for. It seems rediculous that there is no option to vote via the internet.

Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

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Quote from: devthedev on December 14, 2016, 01:17:09 PM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 14, 2016, 07:22:18 AM

Quote from: devthedev on December 13, 2016, 11:46:08 PM

Quote from: Junko on December 13, 2016, 11:00:54 PM

Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary.

While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that. Can you cite a reference?

Sorry, it wasn't "exterminate black babies" exactly, but "exterminate the negro population" through Planned Parenthood, implying the same thing.

In the Pivot of Civilization from 1922 she wrote, "[...]'human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born. [...] The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

I wrote an in-depth piece about Margaret Sanger and PP on my publication here, http://faithforamerica.org/does-planned-parenthood-care-about-women/

I realize I'm getting off-topic but I just wanted to say that I took the time to read The Pivot of Civilization again after work tonight. None of what you claim is contained in this book is written therein; neither was Margaret Sanger and leader of a women's KKK movement. You're spreading misinformation. Are you misinformed or do you have an agenda?

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Did any of you guys hear about the followmyvote voting on blockchain idea? It seemed like it could helped with both voting and polling, things this election could have used better options for. It seems rediculous that there is no option to vote via the internet.

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Soon, I have to go away.

Ten separate cyber attacks came from US Department of homeland security (confirmed)

Now, who done the hacking again?
The MSM would say something else, which would not be true.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/georgia-secretary-of-state-says-cyberattacks-linked-back-to-dhs/475707667

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 14, 2016, 03:14:35 PM

Did Barack Obama forgot that he is no longer the president of the United States? He need to come back to his senses. His candidate (Hitlery Clinton) lost the elections, despite spending billions of USD in funds. She was demolished by an inexperienced businessman, who was demonized by the mainstream media channels.

First, Obama is still the President, and the second Trump so much contradictory personality that he will soon become a lame duck. He used to work in the business when the owner decides everything. In the state it is not. It may get opposition from the Senate and Congress.

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Did Barack Obama forgot that he is no longer the president of the United States? He need to come back to his senses. His candidate (Hitlery Clinton) lost the elections, despite spending billions of USD in funds. She was demolished by an inexperienced businessman, who was demonized by the mainstream media channels.

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on December 14, 2016, 07:22:18 AM

Quote from: devthedev on December 13, 2016, 11:46:08 PM

Quote from: Junko on December 13, 2016, 11:00:54 PM

Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary.

While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that. Can you cite a reference?

Sorry, it wasn't "exterminate black babies" exactly, but "exterminate the negro population" through Planned Parenthood, implying the same thing.

In the Pivot of Civilization from 1922 she wrote, "[...]'human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born. [...] The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

I wrote an in-depth piece about Margaret Sanger and PP on my publication here, http://faithforamerica.org/does-planned-parenthood-care-about-women/

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Quote from: devthedev on December 13, 2016, 11:46:08 PM

Quote from: Junko on December 13, 2016, 11:00:54 PM

Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary.

While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that. Can you cite a reference?

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