Topic: Obama Prepares Amnesty Plan - page 2. (Read 4745 times)

That's funny, it seems "inalienable rights" doesn't mean "inalienable" anymore. Sounds like you and ole BO have more in common than you care to admit.


For example, suspending habeas corpus (Lincoln was challenged at the time by the courts, which he ignored, but the challenge was later validated by the Supreme Court when they ruled that only Congress could suspend habeas corpus), or nationalizing the steel mills (FDR's executive order was ruled invalid by the courts), or yada, yada. There are literally too many instances of unlawful executive orders to single them out individually. On top of these two specific examples I've named, there have been over 15,000 executive orders in the history of this country, but you're trying to pass off that only the last 200 or so under Obama are "unprecedented."

Not a reasonable assertion.

Bush was protecting national security via execute action. Reagan had the authority to send troops into conflict zones for up to 90 days without congressional approval as per the law (which is unconstitutional as the constitution gives the power to direct the military to the president). Your other examples are also constitutionally acceptable examples of how the president is allowed to make/use executive orders.

Obama on the other hand is using executive orders in order to make law which is a power reserved for the legislature.

He is not only a traitor, but he actively hates America down to the core on a racial, cultural, and personal level.

It's a fact that he was raised in an Anti-American, Anti-west environment. He would rather idolize and talk about his deadbeat revolutionary wannabe father who ran out when he was 3 years old, and dedicate his 'manifesto' to 'the dreams of my father' rather then talk about how his mother and the wealthy grandparents raised his pampered 'rebel' ass in a private school with gated houses.

He thinks his less-then-white skin grants him some kind of a moral superiority. The world is laughing at such an attitude for obvious reasons, and I think white America and all of the nation should come to understand there is no such thing as having a blacker skin equated to some kind of entitlement or 'guilt' of anyone else. If their motivation is racial, it is perfectly acceptable and correct to destroy the said race and discriminate racially to all those who display such attitudes.

He is barely fit to be an assistant professor wannabe at a liberal shithole 'college', never mind hold a political office. However, he manipulated and played on the guilt ridden white folks attitude and manage to worm his way into the oval office.


Now he is doing exactly what he always wanted to do - try and remake others to his liking or bring down what others have.


It's racial, cultural and ethnic reason that drives him to do what he does. However, more then one world leader (actually all of them) are aware of this and don't give 2 shits about his 'charms' which are just used in America to cajole, casually deceive, and manipulate the feelings of the majority for his own ends.



Additionally, there is nothing wrong with America being a white majority country, or people insisting on it. No one is asking the chinese or indians to diversify. I am a minority myself (disadvantaged one), but there is simply no logic for this whole 'multicultural' nonsense other than racially motivated agenda that drives people to equate outright invasion with equality or social justice.

West and America is white country/nations. PERIOD.

Whether or not they accept occasional visitors or minorities is THEIR right and decision, no one else. Do these minority thieves and trespassers ever care about 'native americans' when it's not convenient for them? When did they ever give a fuck?

Chinese are not asked to bring in non chinese to their country. India is not asked to do it either, nor is africa asked to take in millions of chinese as the same as africans, and neither is virtually any other nations on earth except for white, western nations.

This is not about equality. You are not equal but a foreigner when you enter different countries. As long as basic safety is protected, you better understand your place in someone else's house.

Deal with it.

Every country has a core constituency, core ethnic group, and core idea and culture and heritage.


White folks, run this shit out of the office and impeach his ass. He is waging a racial war against you and you have nothing to feel guilty about putting him in his place. If putin and assad did it, you are RIGHTFULLY obligated to correct this grave error in American history. Anyone who says they are not white and do not accept that america or other western nations are not white countries is an invader trying to manipulate your values against you. No one is obligated to accept outsiders when they are different. Mutual respect and understanding is one thing, but this has gone far enough into the territory of outright invasion supported by manipulation of your own values against you.

In case you were not aware of it, cases of national necessity and wartime conditions are the very point of options such as executive orders.

That is not what we are discussing.  A valid use of executive power would be to suspend civil rights and institute martial law say for example in the case of a severe ebola outbreak.

An abuse of executive power would be to usurp actions and power given constitutionally to Congress, or to sign a blatantly unconstitutional executive order.

Except when Bush was treading on the Constitution by doing all the same things Obama has done. Except when Reagan was sending troops into conflict without authorization from Congress. Except when FDR created the New Deal and interfered with the Supreme Court in order to implement it. Except when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. Except when Jackson enacted martial law or openly defied the Supreme Court.

Yeah, please tell me again how Obama's power grabs are "completely unprecedented."   

Gosh, I hate to break this to you, but that's a satire site. This passage of the article gives it away:


But in case you need explicit proof, see this: http://www.thefinaledition.com/page/why-we-are.html

Obama was not asked for his Nobel Prize back.

No, we have not been acclimatized to it.  No, we don't want one person to fix it.  No, we don't want to elect our king.

The ABUSE of executive power by Obama is widely acknowledged and is completely unprecedented.

Yup, they have lost the support of the American people as shown by the recent elections, so they are trying to basically buy the support of what should be "illegals" by allowing them to stay here and suck the middle class dry

He wants more people to be in the country to vote so they can help elect his liberal allies

This is further proof that Obama does NOT have the AMERICAN PEOPLES best interests in mind, only looking for a way to get people to bow down to his supreme power.  Allowing 11+ million ILLEGALS to stay here pretty much guarantees they will agree with everything his says no matter what, because they will see him as their "savior."  Its all just a ploy to boost his "support"

The administration knows hooking the people on as many government programs as possible is the way to their success.

Yes, the nobel committee asked for it back, essentially revoking it

http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to-return-peace-prize.html

This was the 2nd result (below wikipedia) when searching google for 'obama nobel peace prize'

I think Obama gives amnesty step is a step that is not bad, generous and willing to give a second chance for amnesty recipients is a generosity given by President Obama, in fact a lot of interest from the Obama of giving amnesty to immigrants, ahead of the next election Obama needs support sound, so this can be one way that Obama can win the next election ... 

Wth, no it wasn't. 

Obama's nobel prize was actually revoked.

Obama has shown a disregard for the law and the constitution, so I don't see why anyone would be surprised that he is willing to disregard the constitution in this situation. Liberals have always wanted more illegal immigrants in this country so when they do become citizens they can take advantage of social programs and legally vote democrat, and before they become citizens they can cast illegal votes for democrats (this is the main reason why liberals are against voter ID laws)

The Nobel Prize winner will fix it....

People have been warning about immigrants destroying America since there was an America. A little reality check is in order.

Cool! We might start spreading this information between the gypsies in central/eastern Europe. Perhaps with some hints about the generous US benefit system ...and we shall take our countries back .
BTW Obama and Co. keep bashing us about how badly we treating those poor souls, so it would be time to show us how to deal with them properly .

This stupid step will alter the American demography irreversibly, and in the long term will reduce the US to a third world nation. Less number of tax payers and an ever increasing number of social parasites can never be a good sign.

The last 100 years have been a steady progression in the expansion of executive power. In terms of the history of this country, the idea that the president is expected to wield as much power as he does is relatively new. It was never intended to be this way, but as the progression has been gradual, we've been acclimated to it. When things are going wrong, the public wants one person to have the power to 'fix it,' and someone to blame when it's not. Basically, we want to elect our king and expect him not to be corruptible by the power he wields, but when in the history of the world has this ever been the case?