The real reason not to impeach Obama is that too many liberal idiots like him. That's the only one I can think of. For crying out loud, he insults our allies and negotiates with terrorist groups (hamas, Iran)
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The real reason not to impeach Obama is that too many liberal idiots like him. That's the only one I can think of. For crying out loud, he insults our allies and negotiates with terrorist groups (hamas, Iran)
I agree with Obama. I mean really, look at all those innocent people that Snowden has killed and maimed with drones. Look at all the people who've lost significant value in their investments because of all those taxes that Snowden signed into law. Look at all the people who are going to have to pay far more for their health care while receiving a much lesser degree of care because of 'Snowden-care'.
Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
Fast and Furious.Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
Bengazi.
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I agree with Obama. I mean really, look at all those innocent people that Snowden has killed and maimed with drones. Look at all the people who've lost significant value in their investments because of all those taxes that Snowden signed into law. Look at all the people who are going to have to pay far more for their health care while receiving a much lesser degree of care because of 'Snowden-care'.
Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
Fast and Furious.Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
Bengazi.
What do you mean innocent? Don't you know anyone that gets killed in a drone bombing is automatically classified as a terrorist?
Very soon, every single resident of Russia, Cuba, Venezulela.etc will be classified as a terrorist by Obama.
You will not know it in the US if that ever happen because, you know, at least he is not Bush...
Double standard.
What do you mean innocent? Don't you know anyone that gets killed in a drone bombing is automatically classified as a terrorist?
Very soon, every single resident of Russia, Cuba, Venezulela.etc will be classified as a terrorist by Obama.
I doubt the damage the Obama cares about has anything to do with international relations, rather it seems he is likely much more obsessed with the way he is perceived in the press, and wanting to appear as regal as possible while "the man of the people" is always hard when you are an elitist snob who hasn't done a day of hard work in his life.
Hear, hear!
I agree with Obama. I mean really, look at all those innocent people that Snowden has killed and maimed with drones. Look at all the people who've lost significant value in their investments because of all those taxes that Snowden signed into law. Look at all the people who are going to have to pay far more for their health care while receiving a much lesser degree of care because of 'Snowden-care'.
Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
What do you mean innocent? Don't you know anyone that gets killed in a drone bombing is automatically classified as a terrorist? Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
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Every year Channel 4 do a "alternative" Christmas message to the Queen's one. This year it was Snowden: http://www.channel4.com/news/edward-snowden-nsa-gchq-whistleblower-surveillance-spying
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Still it was better than the one last year, which was delivered by Adam Hills. The one I found the most interesting was that by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2008.
Haha, didn't know or see Adam Hills' last year, but I think I've seen most of the others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Christmas_message
Every year Channel 4 do a "alternative" Christmas message to the Queen's one. This year it was Snowden: http://www.channel4.com/news/edward-snowden-nsa-gchq-whistleblower-surveillance-spying
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Still it was better than the one last year, which was delivered by Adam Hills. The one I found the most interesting was that by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2008.
I agree with Obama. I mean really, look at all those innocent people that Snowden has killed and maimed with drones. Look at all the people who've lost significant value in their investments because of all those taxes that Snowden signed into law. Look at all the people who are going to have to pay far more for their health care while receiving a much lesser degree of care because of 'Snowden-care'.
Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
Oh, wait... Obama did those things which have caused unnecessary damage to innocent people, not Edward Snowden. I guess we all know who the real dick is, don't we?
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Every year Channel 4 do a "alternative" Christmas message to the Queen's one. This year it was Snowden: http://www.channel4.com/news/edward-snowden-nsa-gchq-whistleblower-surveillance-spying
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Was a little disappointed in it really. Just the usual our governments are spying on us blah blah.
Is he joking? I thought that it was Obama's men who spied on various world leaders, such as Merkel and the Brazilian president. Snowden just exposed that. So who is the real culprit here?
The people who lend power to this man.
Perhaps, but I allude to the core belief system, that even a notion of there being the "right guy" to rule the people is what gives power to the worst of us. Despite our powers in voting being limited to none, what truly powers the state is the amount of people who acknowledge that the state is just; if one sees evil and condones it, if for no other reason but fear, he who commits evil acts grows in power. Without this factor, Obama, and any president for that matter, is limited to nothing more than an adviser, and in this case, a poor one.
If one allows their time and energy, whether from their money or their direct labor, to be used in a manner one finds immoral, one cannot be excused from the acts which follow; either one must acknowledge that they willingly support evil, or acknowledge that they are not free to make the decision to stop supporting evil. Once this distinction is made--which in most people, I believe, it hasn't--then the individual in question regains the power he unknowingly lent and is free to do with it as he chooses, no matter the form of government that is popular at the time. I'm betting my money on that power being directed away from the power structure, not toward.
Is he joking? I thought that it was Obama's men who spied on various world leaders, such as Merkel and the Brazilian president. Snowden just exposed that. So who is the real culprit here?
The people who lend power to this man.
Is he joking? I thought that it was Obama's men who spied on various world leaders, such as Merkel and the Brazilian president. Snowden just exposed that. So who is the real culprit here?
The people who lend power to this man.
Is he joking? I thought that it was Obama's men who spied on various world leaders, such as Merkel and the Brazilian president. Snowden just exposed that. So who is the real culprit here?
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tea pot calling the kettle black (i don't mean that in a racist way btw).. fuck off, obama.
Haha.
it doesn't seem like hilary clinton is any better than him. she appears to prefer the status quo, so no voting for her. she'll probably be more effective than obama has been though. that man is the best at running campiagn, and not so great at being president.
Doesn't matter who wins, they're all the same and won't change shit.
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“Disclosure of this still-classified information regarding the scope and operational details of N.S.A. intelligence activities implicated by plaintiffs’ allegations could be expected to cause extremely grave damage to the national security of the United States,” wrote the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr.
This is from the guy who lies under oath to congress ...
.... it is such a wanton subversion of the justice system to aim to have cases dismeissed because they know they will be criminally liable if it ever gets to trial. All the while using the Justice Department to argue "state secrets" bullshit to keep it out of court. There are some govt. lawyers who's souls are going to be rotting in eternal hell for keeping criminal govt actions out of court for so many years now. I hope those lawyers in particular have thier children and children's children are surveilled to their death.
Ummm, and the massive "unnecessary damage" wrought by the NSA can be ignored then?
I guess when you are part of the problem only counting one side of the ledger is ok ....
I guess when you are part of the problem only counting one side of the ledger is ok ....
Those people who read this docs of Snowden, probably could calculate the budget of NSA from this:
$10 million
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/report-nsa-paid-rsa-to-make-flawed-crypto-algorithm-the-default/
There is thread on reddit, you can find, there are >100 companies like Cisco, Apple, IBM, Oracle, D-Link, and like this for the whole of hundred who vulnerable of this backdoor.
Probably, every tech-technology around us backdoored by NSA, since 2001.
related thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4082690
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Security company RSA was paid $10 million to use the flawed Dual_EC_DRBG pseudorandom number generating algorithm as the default algorithm in its BSafe crypto library, according to sources speaking to Reuters.
$10 million
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/report-nsa-paid-rsa-to-make-flawed-crypto-algorithm-the-default/
There is thread on reddit, you can find, there are >100 companies like Cisco, Apple, IBM, Oracle, D-Link, and like this for the whole of hundred who vulnerable of this backdoor.
Probably, every tech-technology around us backdoored by NSA, since 2001.
related thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4082690
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