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Quote from: yvv on March 01, 2017, 10:44:21 AM

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

Well, either I or SatoNatomato is wrong, not both, that's how formal logic works. If you don't like reading my posts then click [Ignore] next to my name. If you don't like reading SatoNatomato's posts then click [Ignore] next to his name. You can even ignore the both, this is the beauty of BTT.

Newbies come to this thread and read incorrect information. I just don't like this and I try to fix this problem. Just press [Ignore] and everyone will be happy. Let's stop here before I think that you prefer SatoNatomato's lie to stay unfixed to rise price of your coins...

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Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 10:42:06 AM

Quote from: ApexEvo on March 01, 2017, 10:14:44 AM

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? Roll Eyes

Lets have a vote, should I stay or should I go?

Do I or Come-from-Beyond bring value to Byteball thread? Pick one, dont tell both to fuck off.

Didn't you already sell your Byteball? You don't really add any value here other than angry trolling posts, so I would vote that you go away.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 01, 2017, 10:36:46 AM

Quote from: ApexEvo on March 01, 2017, 10:14:44 AM

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? Roll Eyes

I think I do something useful - I highlight SatoNatomato's fuckups (or they are intentional lies?)

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

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Quote from: ApexEvo on March 01, 2017, 10:14:44 AM

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? Roll Eyes

Lets have a vote, should I stay or should I go?

Do I or Come-from-Beyond bring value to Byteball thread? Pick one, dont tell both to fuck off.

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Quote from: davidoski on March 01, 2017, 12:42:55 AM

Quote from: dfd1 on February 28, 2017, 02:04:31 PM

Quote from: Krypt on February 28, 2017, 08:11:33 AM

Quote from: dfd1 on February 28, 2017, 05:56:24 AM

Is DAG somehow limited in size, or someone can make billions of transactions and bloat it?

Please read the OP:

Quote from: tonych on September 05, 2016, 11:00:28 AM

The fees paid for storing one’s transactions (or any other data) in the Byteball database are equal to the size of the data being stored. If the size of your transaction data is 500 bytes, you pay exactly 500 bytes (the native currency of Byteball) in fees.

So what? With a fee of 50$ someone can make DAG twice as big overnight? With a fee 500$ can make it 10 gb more? There is people who can do this just for fun. Is there some prunning mechanism what will allow to cut old transactions from database?

There isn't. I'm pointing this out for a long time but nobody is listening. Byteball has the same scalability problem like any other blockchain with adjustable blocksize limit. Database grows indefinitely and hardware and bandwith are the limiting factors. Moreover if somebody wants to attack byteball by sending huge data to the database it''s pretty easy and cheap at the current price. 8 years old Bitcoin blockchain nears 100 GB and you can make byteball database that big in 1 day for just $6700.

Why is it necessary to keep entire DAG on every node? This is the evident scalability flaw. Why not to make a snapshot every so often which fixes all unspent balances and archive all previous transactions?

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I like how the 3rd airdrop of ByteBall is on March 12th, just one day after decision on BTC ETF approval yes/no.

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Quote from: ApexEvo on March 01, 2017, 10:14:44 AM

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? Roll Eyes

I think I do something useful - I highlight SatoNatomato's fuckups (or they are intentional lies?)

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Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 07:45:24 AM

Got no spare money IOTA devlopr to show how Byteball does not scale? Not even a tiny $1000? You mean you cant actually increase the Byteball database size to unscaleable levels with the money you made from hustling shittokens? How poor. Weak.

Now you are trying to distract attention from your fuckup.

You said the following:

Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 04:29:24 AM

Byteball database does grow fast, it can compress well, there can be other implementations to make it even smaller.

And I explained why with real usage Byteball database will lose ability to compress "well" and why there can never be "implementations to make it even smaller".

PS: Have you followed my advice to read basics of Information theory? If not then you, more likely, don't understand my point.

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Quote from: ittou on March 01, 2017, 08:04:34 AM

Quote from: kaicrypzen on March 01, 2017, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: ittou on March 01, 2017, 06:46:05 AM

Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

Thank you for your reply.
I did the former.I did my saved data directory,and reinstalled my system.
I will give up the lost balance the worst but I would like to know what I should have done.

Do you have the seed words? From those you can restore your wallet with at least the bytes balance intact.

You have also a saved data directory, you took a backup before reinstalling your system. Then, try to shut down Byteball wallet, ensure it is not in Task Manager, then, replace the current data directory, with the one you saved, and start Byteball wallet again, is your balance now intaact?

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Quote from: kaicrypzen on March 01, 2017, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: ittou on March 01, 2017, 06:46:05 AM

Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

Thank you for your reply.
I did the former.I did my saved data directory,and reinstalled my system.
I will give up the lost balance the worst but I would like to know what I should have done.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 01, 2017, 07:07:00 AM

Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 06:54:06 AM

Pay up and perform your attack on Byteball or shut up. Put your money where your mouth is.

diarrea from iota mouth

Got no spare money IOTA devlopr to show how Byteball does not scale? Not even a tiny $1000? You mean you cant actually increase the Byteball database size to unscaleable levels with the money you made from hustling shittokens? How poor. Weak.

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Quote from: ittou on March 01, 2017, 06:46:05 AM

Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

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Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 06:54:06 AM

Pay up and perform your attack on Byteball or shut up. Put your money where your mouth is.

It's not an attack. Re-read last 10 posts.

PS: It's just yet another fuckup from you, this is why you are so angry. And everyone sees it, hehe...

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 01, 2017, 06:23:59 AM

...shit from afraid IOTA developer in the Byteball thread...who seems to know more about Byteball than about IOTA...

Pay up and perform your attack on Byteball or shut up. Put your money where your mouth is.

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Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 01, 2017, 06:03:14 AM

Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 05:46:55 AM

Fuck off IOTA-developer, people can today gzip -9 compress the 1.2GB database to 358MB.

Not to mention, a hub or witness today is hardly putting on any CPU load, so it is even possible to keep the database in memory, compress-decompress on-demand, yet retain same throughput.

Just fuck off IOTA-scammer.

I bet you can find JPG photos on your computer right now. Do gzip -9 on them. And imagine someone stores them in Byteball.

Long pause, probably still zipping. Ok, I'll explain this trivial thing, so you won't waste CPU power on zipping...

It's quite obvious that once people start to care about their GBs they'll do everything to spend as less them on fees as possible. It's a no-brainer to compress data before pushing them to Byteball storage. As the result most of data in Byteball DB will already have near-max entropy. At this point lossless compressing won't give noticeable benefit.

I hope you get now why that your post was misleading...

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Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 05:46:55 AM

Fuck off IOTA-developer, people can today gzip -9 compress the 1.2GB database to 358MB.

Not to mention, a hub or witness today is hardly putting on any CPU load, so it is even possible to keep the database in memory, compress-decompress on-demand, yet retain same throughput.

Just fuck off IOTA-scammer.

I bet you can find JPG photos on your computer right now. Do gzip -9 on them. And imagine someone stores them in Byteball.

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Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on March 01, 2017, 05:25:50 AM

Quote from: SatoNatomato on March 01, 2017, 04:29:24 AM

Byteball database does grow fast, it can compress well, there can be other implementations to make it even smaller.

Text is compressed much better than JPG photos. And you can't compress below some threshold if you use lossless compression. Maybe read basics of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory before posting misleading "information"?

Fuck off IOTA-developer, people can today gzip -9 compress the 1.2GB database to 358MB.

Not to mention, a hub or witness today is hardly putting on any CPU load, so it is even possible to keep the database in memory, compress-decompress on-demand, yet retain same throughput.

Just fuck off IOTA-scammer.

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I was late for the 1st and 2nd airdrop, but I'll get my precious bytes this time!

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