OFFERING MY INDIANA RESIDENCY TO PLACE LEGAL LEGITIMATE SPORTS BETS

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Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 03:22:28 AM

What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.

I think that Indiana is special just because OP lives their and the gambling is legal there, nothing else.

Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 03:22:28 AM

Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

Exactly. That`s what i try to understand in this thread. Even if he is betting for you, you still break the law, just in another way. And this offer just add you risks with confidence. I still can`t understand the offer. Online casinos with cryptocurrencies allows you to gamble from anywhere.

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Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 03:22:28 AM

What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.
Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

I don't think betting in Indian is that lucrative to the extent of hiring the service of another residents to help place bet on one behalf, I don't think much members will fine this service interesting.

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What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.
Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 17, 2021, 09:10:08 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 05:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

I think that it does not matter newbie account or full member for example. The man that makes such an offer may be a scammer, but the same time he can just hide his main account or his personal data from the community. But in any way the offer don`t looks interesting and safe.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 17, 2021, 09:10:08 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 05:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

You are totally dumb if you do really consider out on acquiring such service if you could able to directly make out some bets if you wanted too and as mentioned on which there are legal sports betting out there and making out some transactions with third parties does sounds fishy.

I wouldnt touch up this one on a 10-ft pole and to those newbies or noobs out there then BEWARE!

Dont easily get hooked up on something who do offer such service.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 05:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 16, 2021, 04:51:02 PM

And that is one of the many issues with this, using a service like that will require a huge amount of trust as you are giving your money to a person on the Internet that you have never seen and which will be impossible to track.

And even in the case the service is legitimate it will leave a money trail that could eventually lead to the discovery that this service exists and that it has been cheating the casino, creating a whole bunch of issues that in my mind are not the trouble to deal with.

Even if we don`t speak about trust, i don`t see the way, how it becomes legitimate. If it becomes legitimate on one side, it becomes illegitimate on the another side. And as you said yet it break casino rules most times.
And with this set of violations we begin talking about trust.

Can someone give an example how it works with any concrete states/countries and laws?

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Quote from: mak013 on November 15, 2021, 02:26:43 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

And that is one of the many issues with this, using a service like that will require a huge amount of trust as you are giving your money to a person on the Internet that you have never seen and which will be impossible to track.

And even in the case the service is legitimate it will leave a money trail that could eventually lead to the discovery that this service exists and that it has been cheating the casino, creating a whole bunch of issues that in my mind are not worth the trouble to deal with.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 15, 2021, 12:38:22 PM

Quote from: mak013 on November 15, 2021, 02:26:43 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend Wink

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house.. Wink

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

Yes, i didn`t mean that problem is to transfer cryptocurrencies. The main problem is to legalize it. I have an opportunity to transfer cryptocurrencies to cash in my city, but i can`t make big deals in cash. And making any transfer with credit card can the reason for asking different questions, that i don`t want to answer.

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Quote from: mak013 on November 15, 2021, 02:26:43 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend Wink

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house.. Wink

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

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@OP you need to think twice to run your services, this is illegal and you must have a good knowledge to hide identity and remain 100% anonymous both you and your customer. Let's say you've good knowledge to hide your identity, then how you can sure your customer have good knowledge same as you? You can't verify that, you can only trust his words. Regulations and SEC can cooperate with exchanges or any services, if they found there's a linked relation from you and your customer... it's over.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 08, 2021, 03:09:55 PM

If the law of gambler is very strict about gambling to be illegal the best thing the gambling can do is to stop gambling in other not to have problems with the law or have her account freezes by bookmakers when they detect that she used VPN.
About the OP providing all data and links to social media, I will be damn if I believe all the information to be true not even not that we have some people selling ID and other private information online.

You're right, as strict regulations may overwhelm gamblers in the area one day. Forcing gambling in a place where the rules are quite vulnerable to things that eventually become an illegal act has a fairly dangerous risk for gamblers. Quitting is indeed a difficult decision, but avoiding the rules is also not a good way. Back to each other's decisions.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

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Quote from: mak013 on November 09, 2021, 08:25:59 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 07:53:29 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 07, 2021, 12:09:54 PM

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

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hahahahahhaah risky and stupid

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Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2021, 09:22:58 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 07:53:29 AM

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

- the fees he charges are high

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

I do not know if it could come to that, but it is definitely something that most casinos will not allow, if you read the TOS of most casinos you will see that they are allowing you to make bets on their casino and sport book but many specify that you are the only one allowed to make those bets and not a third party.

So if they discover that you have been using your account to make bets under the instructions of someone else then most likely your account will be closed and your winnings seized.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 07:53:29 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 07, 2021, 12:09:54 PM

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

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People only have to choose between obeying their country's rules or wanting to break them, some countries can't technically reach violators to get caught. As long as they can access certain sports betting sites and anonymously, they can freely spend their money there.

So far my country has banned all forms of gambling, but I don't need a service like this to bet independently. Because at the end of the day, entrusting someone else to manage money in gambling is also illegal.

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Quote from: DaveF on November 08, 2021, 04:09:50 PM

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I doubt the OP will give you that winnings. I mean no offense to him but I have a feeling he just wanted to "offer his residency to bet on a gambling site" so if a moron actually took his offer he'll have no problem taking the money if a decent bet ever won.

the other month there was another guy who was looking for someone to bet for him using his money I think these two people are meant for each other. too bad the OP in that thread claims that he already "found" someone who would be willing to bet for him.

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Quote from: DaveF on November 08, 2021, 04:09:50 PM

And as a side note the biggest killer for the OP is going to be taxes.

I take him up on the offer. I win a large enough wager to generate a W2-G (income from gambling tax form) I take my winnings and leave. OP now has to cover a $3500 tax bill with the $3 I gave him for the bet.

There are probably dozens of other pitfalls but I see that as a big one.

-Dave

Good one!

Nobody looked at it from this side!

But actually there is one more way to control this. Simply, the winnings will come to the OP's account and will pass the amount for bettor after removing tax to itself.

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